Time for Walker to call in the National Guard

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jonks

Lifer
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=> GOP screws over tens of thousands of people
=> GOP is shocked that people get violent

wat.

fail, losing a political battle doesn't grant rights to violence, especially not here. I get they're pissed, but they have recourse. This isn't a dictatorship, if enough people agree with them they can vote out those they hate so fervently.

As to the gop not 'expecting' violence, I should sure as hell hope when you pass legislation you don't expect the opposition to get violent regardless of party.
 

jonks

Lifer
Feb 7, 2005
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Just take solace in the knowledge that shithead is really a chin dribbling fucktard who is too intellectually impotent to engage in honest discourse. In other words, a typical liberal.

Those two sentences back to back should make your head hurt.
 

JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
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The union supporters have a right to peacefully assemble and protest.

If they want to scream slogans at the elected officials, they have a right to.

If they threaten the elected officials, then the police should remove them from the building.

For example - "You putrid human being, we're going to recall you and destroy your party before they trample any more rights" - perfectly fine

"I'm going to kill you" - throw them out, potentially arrest them to let them cool off.

Michael

http://budget.wispolitics.com/2011/03/scott-fitzgerald-releases-text-of-death.html

Mr. Fitzgerald,

I want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and your republican dictators have to die. This is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records. We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, this isn’t enough. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message. So we have built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent. This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won’t tell you all of them because that’s just no fun. Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it’s necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We will “get rid of” (in which I mean kill) the 8 of you. Please understand that this does not include the heroic Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. The 8 includes the 7 senators and the dictator. We feel that it’s worth our lives becasue we would be saving the lives of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. Goodbye A**HOLE!!!!

Please put your things in order because you will be killed and your familes will also be killed due to your actions in the last 8 weeks. Please explain to them that this is because if we get rid of you and your families then it will save the rights of 300,000 people and also be able to close the deficit that you have created. I hope you have a good time in hell. Read below for more information on possible scenarios in which you will die.

WE want to make this perfectly clear. Because of your actions today and in the past couple of weeks I and the group of people that are working with me have decided that we’ve had enough. We feel that you and the people that support the dictator have to die. We have tried many other ways of dealing with your corruption but you have taken things too far and we will not stand for it any longer. So, this is how it’s going to happen: I as well as many others know where you and your family live, it’s a matter of public records. We have all planned to assult you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head. However, we decided that we wouldn’t leave it there. We also have decided that this may not be enough to send the message to you since you are so “high” on Koch and have decided that you are now going to single handedly make this a dictatorship instead of a demorcratic process. So we have also built several bombs that we have placed in various locations around the areas in which we know that you frequent. This includes, your house, your car, the state capitol, and well I won’t tell you all of them because that’s just no fun. Since we know that you are not smart enough to figure out why this is happening to you we have decided to make it perfectly clear to you. If you and your goonies feel that it’s necessary to strip the rights of 300,000 people and ruin their lives, making them unable to feed, clothe, and provide the necessities to their families and themselves then We Will “get rid of” (in which I mean kill) you. Please understand that this does not include the heroic Rep. Senator that risked everything to go aganist what you and your goonies wanted him to do. We feel that it’s worth our lives to do this, because we would be saving the lives of 300,000 people. Please make your peace with God as soon as possible and say goodbye to your loved ones we will not wait any longer. YOU WILL DIE!!!!
 

shiner

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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fail, losing a political battle doesn't grant rights to violence, especially not here.

It does to the indoctrinated, non free thinking extremists on both sides. Expect it to get worse as more and more choose to join the extremes rather than work in the middle.

The greatness of our country was built in the middle on compromise, neither of the extremes seem willing to do that anymore. Many have forgotten that, many more will until things stretch to their breaking point and blood is spilled. Once that happens there should, assuming the shock is enough to bring people back to reality, be an "oh my God what have we done?" moment that returns people to rational thinking and a shunning of both extremes.
 

shiner

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Jul 18, 2000
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Sounds like he will need it.

The real Americans that happen to be stuck in Wisconsin are pretty pissed from what I've been seeing.

Odd place for the new Revolution to start. Never would have thought old Cheese and Beer Country.

I'm sure you were hoping for Twinkie and Coke country so that you could be right at the epicenter and not have to get off your sofa.
 

QuantumPion

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Jun 27, 2005
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Simple solution - pass a resolution stating any damage to public property gets garnished from their salary/benefits
 

Michael

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JS80 - If they trace that to one of the protesters in the building, arrest them. Otherwise, the random ranting of someone on the internet does not seem to me the basis to remove th rights of others to peacefully assemble.

Michael
 

paperfist

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Nov 30, 2000
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Yes, have crowds of panicked people stampeding to get out of enclosed spaces through limited entry-ways. What could go wrong?

I'm joking, but didn't these protesters claim it was their Egypt?

They are channeling their energy in the wrong place anyway. They should be protesting automatic pay raises and the high costs of their government instead.
 

fskimospy

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I'm joking, but didn't these protesters claim it was their Egypt?

They are channeling their energy in the wrong place anyway. They should be protesting automatic pay raises and the high costs of their government instead.

Yes, clearly the protesters should be protesting what you want them to instead of what they want to.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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I havent met a guy yet in the National Guard that is given ammo when deployed for riot duty. Even in the LA riots in 1994 the bradleys and NG units were toothless.
 

tk149

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Who the hell do you think makes up most of the Wisconsin National Guard? if you guess, the sons and daughters of the working class, you might start to understand why they will not be eager to become storm troopers for Gov. Walker.

It did not work for Mubarak, why should it work in Wisconsin?

In general, Wisconsin is actually fairly conservative, except for the concentrations of liberals in Madison and Milwaukee. Just like many other states, political affiliation tends to fall into rural versus urban.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/wisconsin

Just guessing here, but I don't think all the working class people live in Madison and Milwaukee. ()
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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I swear to God, does the word "clearly" ever get used except in cases of extreme sarcasm?
 

Zebo

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Libya: coming to a neighborhood near you as money runs out or is printed which amounts to same thing.

When a days wages CAN'T buy food and fuel you'll see effects of printing as MONEY follows supply and demand curves too.
 
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Acanthus

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fail, losing a political battle doesn't grant rights to violence, especially not here. I get they're pissed, but they have recourse. This isn't a dictatorship, if enough people agree with them they can vote out those they hate so fervently.

As to the gop not 'expecting' violence, I should sure as hell hope when you pass legislation you don't expect the opposition to get violent regardless of party.

Just because most of us have self control, it doesn't mean all of us will.

When you piss off a massive group of people in a huge way, it is foolish not to expect some to overreact.

What they did was the conservative equivalent of outlawing guns.

Do you really think that would just sail through without any snags?

Everyone would be thinking rationally and giving up their guns in an orderly manner so they could hopefully repeal the legislation later?

If you say yes, you're full of shit.
 
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trenchfoot

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Aug 5, 2000
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The Koch Brothers are cackling and snorting their asses off at the spectacle in Madison, of which they're partly responsible for.

Next up, a sweetheart deal for the Koch Bros. as they wrap up a no-bid fire sale held by Walker on a couple of power plants in WI, complete with protesters outside their gates 24/7/365.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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fail, losing a political battle doesn't grant rights to violence, especially not here. I get they're pissed, but they have recourse. This isn't a dictatorship, if enough people agree with them they can vote out those they hate so fervently.

As to the gop not 'expecting' violence, I should sure as hell hope when you pass legislation you don't expect the opposition to get violent regardless of party.
Very well said, and quoted for truth.
 
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