Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: Bv3
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: Bv3
Time exists within the universe not separate from it. It was created "when" the universe was created and will cease to exist "when" the universe collapses in on itself and dies. Although not really "when" because there was no time. There is no true end or beginning to the universe because ends and beginnings require time.
Therefore, the Cosmological Argument is defunct. Every temporal event has a cause, but cause and effect only occurs within time. Outside of our universe and outside of time there is no before and so the origin of our universe requires no cause.
I like the "therefore..." LOL
As if the first statement is quintessential truth. IT is just some astrophysicist, philosopher prick masturbating on paper.
You might as well say: "I like waffles...therefore, captian Spock is president of the USA."
Instead of hurling insults, please tell me your views on this subject.
You will note that I did not hurl a single insult. I laughed at your use of someone's wild conjecture as sole support of a tremendous claim which you stated as "an obvious consequence" of said wild conjecture (if it were, in fact, true).
I then stated my "view" that all this posturing, speculation, and conjecture by "scientists" ( I apply the term losely), such as the one you quoted, is just one big circle jerk...it is pure ego stroking, plain and simple. There is no possible way that this guy coud know what he conjecturing and there is no way to prove or disprove it.
There are real, fundamental scientific available today that need to be solved...and we have people just wasting time making wild speculations. Why don't they work on something pratical: cure cancer, design a better electron microscope, etc.
Theoretical astrophysics ranks right up there with scientology...