"Time to Stop ISIS"

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Sonikku

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What we need to do is find some of their people willing to fight the insurgents and arm them with weapons, money and training. Basically turn them into trained fighting killing machines that will fight the war on our behalf. When it is over, they will surely be loyal and grateful and speak well of America to their children and their children's children for ages to come.
 

JEDIYoda

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4535424,00.html

Report: US fears Israel would be dragged into war with ISIS


Obama administration concerned that jihadist group, that already seized control of parts of Iraq, Syria, will try to invade Jordan. Israeli diplomats say country prepared to take military action to save Hashemite Kingdom.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4534226,00.html


Jordan, Israel cooperate in face of ISIS threat


Jordanian sources say kingdom's cooperation with Israel has only increased as situation in Iraq has deteriorated amid ISIS offensive.

Cooperation between Israel and Jordan is growing as armed Sunni men from the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) make additional gains in Iraq, near the Jordan border, Jordanian sources told Ynet, detailing Jordan's position regarding the ongoing crisis and potential US intervention.

"There is a very good cooperation between us regarding ISIS' growing presence in Iraq and Syria, but also on issues relating to other radical forces in the Middle East which have their sights set on Israel and Jordan," the diplomatic source said.

ISIS is affiliated with al-Qaeda and together with the aid of Sunni tribesman has in recent days managed to take over – albeit only for a short period – parts of the tribal border between Iraq and Jordan. And a recent report in Al-Arabiya claimed Jordan will send military forces to the area.
 

Fern

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I think their numbers are closer to 100K. But the thing I am surprised about is how organized and well trained they appear to be. Where are they getting funding?

In addition to the oil money they 'looted' banks in the areas they captured. They've got plenty of money.

Fern
 

bradley

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What we need to do is find some of their people willing to fight the insurgents and arm them with weapons, money and training. Basically turn them into trained fighting killing machines that will fight the war on our behalf. When it is over, they will surely be loyal and grateful and speak well of America to their children and their children's children for ages to come.

Thank you for these wise words Sonikku.

It is indeed "time to stop ISIS."

ISIS is to terror what the mafia is to crime. But its goal is not making money; its goal is remaking the world -- and imposing its radical beliefs on people everywhere.

These last few months, we as a country have been awakened to danger and are called to defend freedom. Our grief has turned to anger, and anger to resolution. Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done!

We need to uphold the values of America, and remember why so many have come here. We are in a fight for our principles, and our first responsibility is to live by them. No one should be singled out for unfair treatment or unkind words because of their ethnic background or religious faith.

ISIS practices a fringe form of Islamic extremism that has been rejected by Muslim scholars and the vast majority of Muslim clerics -- a fringe movement that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam. The terrorists' directive commands them to kill Christians and Jews, to kill all Americans, and make no distinction among military and civilians, including women and children.

Why do they hate us? They hate our democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms -- our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.

They want to overthrow existing governments in many Muslim countries, such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan. They want to drive Israel out of the Middle East. They want to drive Christians and Jews out of vast regions of Asia and Africa.

These terrorists kill not merely to end lives, but to disrupt and end a way of life. With every atrocity, they hope that America grows fearful, retreating from the world and forsaking our friends. They stand against us, because we stand in their way.

We are not deceived by their pretenses to piety. We have seen their kind before. They are the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions -- by abandoning every value except the will to power -- they follow in the path of fascism, and Nazism, and totalitarianism. And they will follow that path all the way, to where it ends: in history's unmarked grave of discarded lies.

This Iraq War III will not be like the Iraq War II a decade ago, with a decisive liberation of territory and a swift conclusion. It will not look like the air war above Kosovo many years ago, where no ground troops were used and not a single American was lost in combat.

This is not, however, just America's fight. And what is at stake is not just America's freedom. This is the world's fight. This is civilization's fight. This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom.

Either you are with us, or you are with the muthafunkin' terrorists.

Thank you and may God (the higher power) be with you all.
 
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MongGrel

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In addition to the oil money they 'looted' banks in the areas they captured. They've got plenty of money.

Fern


They are definitely pulling out the stops over there, like I said in one a few weeks back, it might be time to pull out the Buffs and start carpet bombing myself.

*shrug*

It's like Nazi's in the open atm.
 
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inachu

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Let them have their caliphate. If jews can have Israel then muslims can have their old ottoman empire back.
 

JEDIYoda

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you are so misinformed.....its better you stay silent so people will not think you a fool...instead open your mouth and confirm what we already knew...
 

rommelrommel

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Watching Israel and Iran kick the shit out of ISIS might be entertaining. It would be like the western allies and the ussr at the end of ww2 with stop lines and everything.
 

Mandres

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Why does the United States have to act unilaterally here? Where is the UN? Where are the other civilized nations that swore a pact to stop genocide in the world? I'm so tired of my nation being stirred into war after war in the sand by scary brown bad guys on tv.

Fuck the middle east. let them have it. Instead of building bombs use American capacity to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. Or at least be honest and explain to the American people exactly why gasoline costs us half of what it costs the rest of the world. Then put it a vote with all the cards on the table.
 

Slew Foot

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Sep 22, 2005
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Ignore em and let them kill each other. If they threaten US territory, glass the middle east.
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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Ignore em and let them kill each other. If they threaten US territory, glass the middle east.
How many are streaming over our unsecured border right now? How many already have? We can't ignore them because they are right here. The policies of our government, supported by emos have brought them into our cities and our towns. It remains to be seen which major city will be attacked. That's assuming they are small enough in numbers to wage it on just one and not several simultaneously.

It's tiresome to rail on about the potential consequences of open border policies when you are met with resistance from people that think only with their emotions. But at some point adults must once again push the children aside and take over. Why we continue throughout our history to humor people incapable of thinking with logic instead of emotion and then allow them in powerful positions is puzzling.

We have numerous people in government telling us the threat is the greatest it's ever been. Will we get lucky and head them off? Will we learn from this and clamp our borders down tight? Only if we suffer mass casualties and maybe not even then. We're topsy-turvy in this nation and it's time to right us. Will we?
 

manimal

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How many are streaming over our unsecured border right now? How many already have? We can't ignore them because they are right here. The policies of our government, supported by emos have brought them into our cities and our towns. It remains to be seen which major city will be attacked. That's assuming they are small enough in numbers to wage it on just one and not several simultaneously.

It's tiresome to rail on about the potential consequences of open border policies when you are met with resistance from people that think only with their emotions. But at some point adults must once again push the children aside and take over. Why we continue throughout our history to humor people incapable of thinking with logic instead of emotion and then allow them in powerful positions is puzzling.

We have numerous people in government telling us the threat is the greatest it's ever been. Will we get lucky and head them off? Will we learn from this and clamp our borders down tight? Only if we suffer mass casualties and maybe not even then. We're topsy-turvy in this nation and it's time to right us. Will we?



The threat is real enough over there for you to make shit up about Isis in the us.


Let's not go all foaming at the mouth and blather on about immagration when were discussing isil.
 

Olikan

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I think their numbers are closer to 100K. But the thing I am surprised about is how organized and well trained they appear to be. Where are they getting funding?


I heard about they were funded and trained by cia to fight back in Syria
Just another Al-quaeda 2.0 to bite owr own ass.... again
 

Engineer

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Ignore em and let them kill each other. If they threaten US territory, glass the middle east.

This.

If people want to fight them, get on a plane and go over there and have at it. We do not need to get involved in this shit again.
 

alzan

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The threat is real enough over there for you to make shit up about Isis in the us.

Let's not go all foaming at the mouth and blather on about immagration when were discussing isil.

You're aware of who you're responding to, aren't you?
 

mizzou

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Unless you enact some sort of war criminals tribune and actually prosecute the offenders and (more then likely kill them), they will just morph into a new terrorist/extremeist group after the other one is dismantled or disorganized.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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The threat is real enough over there for you to make shit up about Isis in the us.


Let's not go all foaming at the mouth and blather on about immagration when were discussing isil.
I'm making nothing up. You either aren't getting this information from your news sources or you're intentionally ignoring it.

Foaming at the mouth? Not in the slightest. My word, every time a lefty hears something that makes him uncomfortable, the messenger is 'foaming at the mouth'.

Chicago A Top Terror Target; Ominous Tweet Connects ISIS Threat In City


Senator Inhofe warns of potential terrorist attacks on U.S. soil


FBI, Homeland Security Bulletin Asks Police To Be Aware Of ISIS


Fmr. Homeland Security Adviser: 'Very, Very True' ISIS May Have Crossed Border

But by all means, keep fooling yourself.
 
Nov 25, 2013
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I'm making nothing up. You either aren't getting this information from your news sources or you're intentionally ignoring it.

Foaming at the mouth? Not in the slightest. My word, every time a lefty hears something that makes him uncomfortable, the messenger is 'foaming at the mouth'.

Chicago A Top Terror Target; Ominous Tweet Connects ISIS Threat In City


Senator Inhofe warns of potential terrorist attacks on U.S. soil


FBI, Homeland Security Bulletin Asks Police To Be Aware Of ISIS


Fmr. Homeland Security Adviser: 'Very, Very True' ISIS May Have Crossed Border

But by all means, keep fooling yourself.

How did 'the Purge' go in your town last night? I guess you survived. Good to know.
 

Jay5

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Jan 28, 2013
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"time to stop ISIS"


would of been great if we stopped them when they were called the Syrian rebels,but we all saw what happened there.here's to hoping more americans see the end result of liberal wrist slapping to defeat our enemys
 
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John Connor

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Nov 30, 2012
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What we need to do is find some of their people willing to fight the insurgents and arm them with weapons, money and training. Basically turn them into trained fighting killing machines that will fight the war on our behalf. When it is over, they will surely be loyal and grateful and speak well of America to their children and their children's children for ages to come.


We did that with the Taliban back in the 80's.
 

John Connor

Lifer
Nov 30, 2012
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We need to stop this cancer in the middle east and we should stick a military base in Iraq. They are creating a terrorist state FFS!
 

Jay5

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Jan 28, 2013
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What we need to do is find some of their people willing to fight the insurgents and arm them with weapons, money and training.

you mean like what we did after we got sadaam? ya,that worked great until the ones we trained threw there weapons down and ran the other way instead of killing the enemy
 
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