Timing belt service coming up. What else to replace ?

[Hmongkeysauce]

So it's almost time for the timing belt service on my 2007 Honda Accord V6. I'm looking around and some people are saying that in addition to the timing belt, I should get the water pump and tensioner(?) replaced at the same time. What else should I get done while replacing my timing belt? Thanks in advance.

 

[boomhower]

I'd certainly get the water pump done since your already there.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Definitely replace the water pump. If it goes, you have to pull everything off again anyway and the labor is the biggest cost. Since you have to do the labor now anyway, it's just good sense to replace the water pump while you're in there.

I personally also like to have the tensioner replaced, along with any replaceable pulleys/seals that can be replaced as well. A good shop should automatically be doing this, but it can be best to check.

Also, I typically have the accessory belts/serpentine belt changed at that time too since it's a convenient interval.

ZV

 

[kitatech]

+++++++ new coolant....

...and, depending on miles, if the labor wouldn't add much more in terms of access, new plugs and valve cover gaskets and pcv valve and pcv valve hose if the ends are hard/brittle/cracked....

 

[bruceb]

What was said by others is what to do. I would add new radiator hoses, T-Stat and radiator pressure cap in addition to a flush and refill of the cooling system.

 

[Hmongkeysauce]

I got a price quote for $799 at a local shop which includes
timing belt
tensioner
water pump
drive belts
and coolant

is that reasonable?

That seem's pretty close to dealer price.

Also, is there a reason why it costs more to service a V6? Seems like there is a $200 premium to service the V6 regardless of the shop.

 

[Zenmervolt]

I got a price quote for $799 at a local shop which includes
timing belt
tensioner
water pump
drive belts
and coolant

is that reasonable?

That seem's pretty close to dealer price.

Also, is there a reason why it costs more to service a V6? Seems like there is a $200 premium to service the V6 regardless of the shop.

That seems reasonable to me.

As for why the V6 is more expensive, some engines just take more time to work on than others.

ZV

 

[kitatech]

I got a price quote for $799 at a local shop which includes
timing belt
tensioner
water pump
drive belts
and coolant

is that reasonable?

That seem's pretty close to dealer price.

Also, is there a reason why it costs more to service a V6? Seems like there is a $200 premium to service the V6 regardless of the shop.

Good price...and ditto on the extra labor cost for access to the engine.

 

[PottedMeat]

Also, is there a reason why it costs more to service a V6? Seems like there is a $200 premium to service the V6 regardless of the shop.

i think for that engine (j35?) you need a special tool to get the crank pulley on/off

you need to hold the engine up while you remove one engine mount ( to get the belts out )

if you don't use the starter + breaker bar trick to get the crank pulley off you'll need a pretty high torque impact wrench

and a 4+" vise if you don't get the new tensioner with the pin installed ( to reinstall the pin)

 

[Hmongkeysauce]

Thanks guys. I called a Honda dealer and they were able to do the same service for $700 + tax. I think I'll take it to the dealer.

 

[fstime]

Camshaft seals (front) are included in the timing belt kit on my car because they can start to leak. I know I have developed a slow leak from one of my rear camshaft at around 120K.

Other things included in the kit are timing belt tensioners, water pump, various belts, and that's all I can remember.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I replaced this on my wife's civic a few years back. It took me about 4 hours after stripping the engine down...on the civic, it took a special socket from honda to remove the cam pulley....and a huge cheater bar. I recommend paying someone to get it done if you don't own the socket already. (if required for that model)

 

[nisryus]

Come to think of it, my backup Corolla is 2004. It gets driven maybe twice a week between 50 to 60 miles. It only has 48k ish miles on it. Should the timing belt and water pump be replaced due to the car being 10 years old?

 

[someone16]

Come to think of it, my backup Corolla is 2004. It gets driven maybe twice a week between 50 to 60 miles. It only has 48k ish miles on it. Should the timing belt and water pump be replaced due to the car being 10 years old?

I believe your Corolla has a timing chain. They don't need to be replaced unless there's something wrong with it.

 

[nisryus]

Ah thank you someone16. I thought it has a belt. Just verified that it has a chain. That should save me some money, and wife needs to not worry more now.

 

[BUTCH1]

Definitely replace the water pump. If it goes, you have to pull everything off again anyway and the labor is the biggest cost. Since you have to do the labor now anyway, it's just good sense to replace the water pump while you're in there.

I personally also like to have the tensioner replaced, along with any replaceable pulleys/seals that can be replaced as well. A good shop should automatically be doing this, but it can be best to check.

Also, I typically have the accessory belts/serpentine belt changed at that time too since it's a convenient interval.

ZV

Yup, I did my timing belt once on my Escort @80K, @95K the water pump started leaking at the bearing seal, crap. Luckily the 1.8L is relatively easy as far as FWD goes so I was able to swap the pump in about 3 hours, not wanting to screw myself again I also replaced the tensioner and hoses as well.

 

[Hmongkeysauce]

So I took my car into the dealer today. Just got off the phone from one of the mechanic and I'll have to replace the pulley (kind of expected) and the oil pump near the timing belt as well. I knew I saw oil leaking when I jacked up my car this weekend but just wasn't sure where it was coming from. This $700 is quickly becoming $1300.

 

[bruceb]

Can't hurt to replace the oil pump, but odds are it is working fine and the leak is from the seal behind the pulley you are replacing.