Way to try and narrow complex societal problems to "it's all the other guys fault." This from the an individual that advertises thyself as advocating personal responsibility. The ironies abound.
Of course it was liberal welfare policies over the past 50+ years which created the whole welfare mom crack baby stereotype. When liberal welfare policies were put in place that basically told women that not only were fathers not needed, but they would get more money if they didn't have them around. Well there was only a natural result which was higher illegitimacy and generational poverty. Compare illegitimacy of black families between 1955, 1970 and 1985. It went from the low 20s% to greater then 70% (in 1955 whites had a greater chance then blacks of being born into a illegitimate family). All due to liberal welfare policies which had the government take the place of the fathers.
Whats happened as a result of liberal policies is a tragedy. They have created a permanent underclass in our society and they have no regrets about doing so. Why?
Because with liberals, results of their policies don't matter. Only their "good" intentions.
Equal opportunity for everyone to marry someone of the opposite sex.This defines conservatives vs. liberals.
Conservatives want equal opportunity
Liberals want equal outcome
Universal Health Care reminds me of the movie Solient Green. What I want to say is that the soviet union and cuba are designed around this system where everyone is equal and everyone lives in the way that the state tells them. However, who has the better living conditions? The people trying to live free have a higher standard of living. I choose the system with the higher standard of living. If you want to choose breadlines and rationing fell free to move to Cuba or Moscow. At least there are no fat people there because everyone is starving to death and groveling for government rationed food.
So why do you want to change the USA into a squalid wasteland communist country?
So can you really just not figure this whole thing out, or are you just being deliberately stupid at this point?
MotF Bane
Or, since you think Europe's healthcare is a model of how we should do it, you can leave. Unless they have a problem with crazy people.
It's hard to just pick up and leave if you have family in the U.S. and if you don't speak the language in another country, assuming they'd even let you in. Some people work in fields that require professional licensure that does not easily transfer to other countries.
:rollseyes
If you have a circumstance, well sorry. Life isn't fair.
I thank my parents for instilling values in me, especially pops who grew up in the great depression and defended this great nation in WW2. our nation is full of pussies, IMHO.
that's totally not true. I work, i have a job, i will always have a job because i'm motivated to work. With this job comes money, and i can always find people that want to sell me health insurance.
If i don't work, i don't have money and can't eat, shelter, transportation or buy health insurance. See how that works? Without those even the most lazy of lazy will get motivated to work.
Your entire post sounds like moronic dogma coming from someone who is good at spouting off pre-canned dogma but who is awful at critical thinking and introspection. Did you just copy and paste this crap from some other website? I'll be surprised if you actually read this thread or respond to my post.
Due to that sophomoric sounding lead in I'll pass on trying to discuss anything with you. Except this [q]Quote:
What makes the government know better what to do with your money than you do?
It's not an issue of knowledge, it's an issue of efficiency. Everyone needs or is going to need health insurance at some point. If a government-run system could save money and be more efficient than what the free market could provide then in essence, wouldn't the "government know better what to do?" [/q] I guess you are a fan of big government. Because Government and efficiency do not belong in the same sentence unless there is a "Not" in there somewhere.
And to what ever Goofball said I do not pay for roads get a clue I said I do not want to pay for some asshole playing PS3 all days healthcare. Of course there are some basic functions I think the government is supposed to provide but the list is small but includes basic services and defense. Not dispensing money to Acorn or any number of these things:
Examples of wasteful duplication include: 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the
disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding
international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe water programs. PRIORITIZE NOW! PRIORITIZE NOW! PRIORITIZE NOW!
· Washington spe nds $60 billion annually on corporate welfare, versus $43 billion on homeland security.
· The Congressional Budget Office published a Budget Options book identifying $140 billion in potential
spending cuts.
· The federal government spends $27 billion annually on special interest pork projects such as grants to the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame or funds to combat teenage goth culture in Blue Springs, Missouri.
· Washington spends tens of billions of dollars on failed and outdated programs such as the Rural Utilities Service,
the U.S. Geological Survey, and the Economic Development Association.
· The federal government made at least $37 billion in overpayments in 2005. Current estimates are between $40
billion and $100 billion in annual overpayments.
· 25 Billion in unaccounted for funds (Nancy Pelosies snack on the plane?)
These monies and the interest we pay on them is significant. Isn't all Obamas fault btw GWB had a quick pen to sign checks as well. But putting out a budget that is 1.6 trillion in the red is not sustainable and is financially irresponsible.
I have great news for you and your buds that feel this way.
Since this is America, you are free to leave to forth and find the Utopia you are looking for.
Less fortunate=Lazy
Thats why you save money for when times are tough.
There's SSDI and my long term disability insurance (provided by those evil insurance companies) as well to take care of that. You can't fix stupid, stupid being not able to take care of yourself, or just too stupid to be lazy.
If you want to work, there are jobs.
And extending unemployment benefits only made it worse. Why would somebody take a 10-12 dollar an hour job when they're making more than that in unemployment?
We need to restore the time when taking a handout is shameful and needs to be publicaly shunned. See somebody using food stamps - embarass them, call them out, call attention to them. Follow them out to their nice car in a mob and shame them to let them know that shit is wrong.
Hunger is a hell of a motivator to work.
That's not what you said. You said that less fortunate = lazy. Why are you backpedaling from that now?
I think we all know that life isn't fair. I mean, look at you... you're a moron.
Of course it was liberal welfare policies over the past 50+ years which created the whole welfare mom crack baby stereotype. When liberal welfare policies were put in place that basically told women that not only were fathers not needed, but they would get more money if they didn't have them around. Well there was only a natural result which was higher illegitimacy and generational poverty. Compare illegitimacy of black families between 1955, 1970 and 1985. It went from the low 20s% to greater then 70% (in 1955 whites had a greater chance then blacks of being born into a illegitimate family). All due to liberal welfare policies which had the government take the place of the fathers.
Whats happened as a result of liberal policies is a tragedy. They have created a permanent underclass in our society and they have no regrets about doing so. Why?
Because with liberals, results of their policies don't matter. Only their "good" intentions.
I thank my parents for instilling values in me, especially pops who grew up in the great depression and defended this great nation in WW2. our nation is full of pussies, IMHO.
Textbook right wing rant, rather weak one at that
If I don't like it it must be unconstitutional Waaa Waaa
Less fortunate=Lazy
Are you going to give specifics about any of the programs you mentioned or simply rehash what someone else said?
No they are examples of how both sides overspend our money and how they are inefficient. If we have 342 economic development programs combine and eliminate the fat. Whipper thinks American Government is efficient. The Government is full of pork.
RyanPaulShaffer: Both sides are wrong one side just out does the other.
I miss the old AT interface.
Government is full of pork because the government is littered with corporate interests and lobby groups.
And extending unemployment benefits only made it worse. Why would somebody take a 10-12 dollar an hour job when they're making more than that in unemployment?
We need to restore the time when taking a handout is shameful and needs to be publicaly shunned. See somebody using food stamps - embarass them, call them out, call attention to them. Follow them out to their nice car in a mob and shame them to let them know that shit is wrong.
Hunger is a hell of a motivator to work.
And extending unemployment benefits only made it worse. Why would somebody take a 10-12 dollar an hour job when they're making more than that in unemployment?
We need to restore the time when taking a handout is shameful and needs to be publicaly shunned. See somebody using food stamps - embarass them, call them out, call attention to them. Follow them out to their nice car in a mob and shame them to let them know that shit is wrong.
Hunger is a hell of a motivator to work.