Titan owners and GTX 780

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Ben90

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Given absolutely no budget, $50 would be pretty easy to spend on a computer.

~$30K for 3 RAID cards and SSDs to fill
~$10K for quad XEON
~$10K for memory to fill.

Overbudget and we don't even have a mobo yet.
 

Lepton87

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lol at buying titan to play sc2 and then complain about value....

I didn't buy Titan to play SC2, I only had time to play one game, and I chose SC2, I don't choose games based on graphics. Well, this 780 completely demolishes titan's value as a gaming card, but I wonder how many people bought it just for gaming and how many people bought it for comparatively very CHEAP monstrous FP64 CUDA performance. For compute it retains its value, maybe it's still possible to sell it close to msrp, since I don't use CUDA and won't ever need 6GB of RAM that would be the most sensible thing for me to do, but I don't know if I want to put up with all the hassle of selling Titan for just a few hundred dollars. I would loose 10% on the Titan and now it's 250$ of difference. For me it's not worth the hassle, I don't like selling things.

ps. We have an on-off topic here, so I'll contribute. Why nobody mentioned 4K/OLED monitor? You can find those things costing north of 30K alone, so it would be possible with just one monitor, if you wanted 3 you might even hit 100K mark.
 
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UaVaj

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that $350 difference between titan and 780.

3gb of vram is about $100 - you got the vram chip to show for.
10-15% of extra performance is about $100 - you got the extra performance to show for.

the only true premium you are paying for on the titan is ~150.

resale loss will eat up that premium. so just keep it.

how about buy another titan so you can better utilize that 6gb vram with some more eye candy.
 

Lepton87

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that $350 difference between titan and 780.

3gb of vram is about $100 - you got the vram chip to show for.
10-15% of extra performance is about $100 - you got the extra performance to show for.

the only true premium you are paying for on the titan is ~150.

resale loss will eat up that premium. so just keep it.

how about buy another titan so you can better utilize that 6gb vram with some more eye candy.

I already decided that I will keep it, it doesn't make sense to sell it and buy 780 in my case at least I don't think it's worth it, I'm not a penny pincher and if I was I probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place. If I didn't already had Titan, then 780 would make more sense but resale loss and the hassle of selling makes it not worth it. Unfortunately I can't afford another Titan as this time. Maybe latter, I wouldn't mind if it got cheaper, 800$ would be nice.
 

Eureka

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I already decided that I will keep it, it doesn't make sense to sell it and buy 780 in my case at least I don't think it's worth it, I'm not a penny pincher and if I was I probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place. If I didn't already had Titan, then 780 would make more sense but resale loss and the hassle of selling makes it not worth it. Unfortunately I can't afford another Titan as this time. Maybe latter, I wouldn't mind if it got cheaper, 800$ would be nice.

I've seen quite a few people starting to dump their Titans, as low as $850 and I'm sure you can negotiate it down a bit.
 

Lepton87

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I've seen quite a few people starting to dump their Titans, as low as $850 and I'm sure you can negotiate it down a bit.

It's going to be very hard where I live(Poland), I can't find a singe used titan for sale in my country. In Poland it was an extremely niche card, much more so then in first world countries. We have 23% VAT tax so in reality the Titan costs over 1250$(average wages are 4 times lower then in the US, so you get an idea how much money 1250$ is in my country) on top of that shops have bigger margins for NV products as opposed to AMD's, you can buy AMD's products for practically the same price as in the US + VAT you can't do that with NV's merchandise, to the point that when GTX680 launched it was quite a bit more expensive then AMD7970 even though it was supposed to be cheaper. Poland it's not an outlier when it comes to inflated prices on/for (BTW which one is correct?) NV's cards, it's true for pretty much the whole of Europe.
 
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alcoholbob

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But a single 84" 4k TV will also set you back 25k

Yeah but that would be basically all you'd use for a display, even 4x GTX Titans can't drive 3 4K monitors for gaming

Given absolutely no budget, $50 would be pretty easy to spend on a computer.

~$30K for 3 RAID cards and SSDs to fill
~$10K for quad XEON
~$10K for memory to fill.

Overbudget and we don't even have a mobo yet.

It wouldn't be a gaming PC though, trying to game on 2GHz Xeons would be a stutter-fest.
 

thilanliyan

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OP I feel for ya, but you shouldn't be angry. You must have been around to know that something almost as good was coming for cheaper. I remember when I bought the 8800GTS 640 for $600, and then like a year later you could get a 8800GT that performed on par for like $250. You got the fastest single card right now...enjoy it...I would if I had one and had time for some gaming.
 

alcoholbob

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OP I feel for ya, but you shouldn't be angry. You must have been around to know that something almost as good was coming for cheaper. I remember when I bought the 8800GTS 640 for $600, and then like a year later you could get a 8800GT that performed on par for like $250. You got the fastest single card right now...enjoy it...I would if I had one and had time for some gaming.

Yeah but it was a year later...780 came out 2 months after Titan.
 

Lepton87

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OP I feel for ya, but you shouldn't be angry. You must have been around to know that something almost as good was coming for cheaper. I remember when I bought the 8800GTS 640 for $600, and then like a year later you could get a 8800GT that performed on par for like $250. You got the fastest single card right now...enjoy it...I would if I had one and had time for some gaming.

Well, the point is, for me 780 came 12x sooner then 8800GT. It's in how little time titan's value as a gaming card was demolished by NV's own product, and to boot I didn't buy it on release date but just about a month prior to 780 launch. That's what made me feel bad about this purchase.
 

thilanliyan

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Point was that there is usually something coming that is better price/perf whether it is 1 month or 12 months down the line, and you shouldn't feel bad about the purchase you made currently. Especially buying a niche product like Titan, I'm surprised you feel bad about it. I'm sure you could offload it for 85-90% of what you paid for it if you feel that bad about it.

I can see you feeling bad about it if nV suddenly reduced the price of Titan to like $750 but they didn't. They released a slower part for less money. As others have stated, halo products are never good value and if that was what you were looking for (it seems like it), then you shouldn't have blown $1000 on Titan to begin with. But that is passed now, I think you should just enjoy it.
 
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Lepton87

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Well for lots of people it doesn't matter if it happens in a month or a year but it does to me. In recent times something like this only happened once on such a short time scale, it was when 4870 landed after GTX280 launched. NV issued rebates to appease their customers even though they had no obligation to do that whatsoever. I just find it weird that when NV does exactly the same themselves no one has anything against it. They could have released 780 and Titan simultaneously but they wouldn't earn as much as they did if they did that. But when they issued rebates they also lost some profit. It feels like they are getting more and more greedy.
I can see you feeling bad about it if nV suddenly reduced the price of Titan to like $750 but they didn't, They released a slower part for less money.
I would actually prefer if they did just that, I would probably bought another one for SLI. It it slower, but they are so close in performance that there's no perceivable difference between them. 780 didn't make the titan a complete waste of money, 6GB could be useful in Tri-SLI configurations and 1/3 FP 64 performance is important to a lot of people who use it for CUDA. I don't fit in any of those scenarios.
 
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thilanliyan

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It feels like they are getting more and more greedy.

nV exists mostly to make money, not really to appease us, like most publicly traded companies. This kind of thing happens when there is no competition and AMD cannot compete single card wise with Titan or the 780. Pricing Titan at $1000 really skewed things, but I'm sure they knew they could sell at that price. Really, blame the people buying cards at that price if you want an answer to why nVidia will keep making money. If you don't want nVidia doing things like that and charging steep prices, vote with your wallet and don't buy such expensive cards.
 

Lepton87

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nV exists mostly to make money, not really to appease us, like most publicly traded companies.

Everybody knows that, but when something like that happened in the past they issued rebates, even though they had no obligation to do that whatsoever. So they cared not only about money but also about brand loyalty, probably because they felt that it's going to pay off in the future. Now it seems they care more about short term profits then in the past.
 

SiliconWars

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If you paid $1K on Titan you either have so much money you don't care that it's only 10% faster, or you're so ignorant of tech that you didn't realise that Nvidia would do this a few weeks later.

Either way, Nvidia doesn't care - it was your fault for paying that on Titan.
 

Lepton87

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If you paid $1K on Titan you either have so much money you don't care that it's only 10% faster, or you're so ignorant of tech that you didn't realise that Nvidia would do this a few weeks later.

Either way, Nvidia doesn't care - it was your fault for paying that on Titan.

Yeah, as if everybody knew that 780 will be 650$ and not 850$. Judging by the reaction on this forum this was a good move for them, but they certainly won't make more profit on me in the long term by their pricing policy this generation.

ps. I just find it strange that nobody is upset with pricing policy of NV, yet there was yelling and screaming when AMD launched 7970 that it was too expensive, even though it offered better value then nv's flagship. It's like NV are free to do something without upsetting anybody which other companies can't. They nailed brand recognition and loyalty very well I must admit. The pricing policy for this generation was just awful for the custumer, first they release a mid-range card with high-end price tag, and a lot of people believed that this is high-end and argued arduously when someone called it mid-range, then they released their true high-end for 1000$ and when everybody who was willing to pay that much for a graphics card bought it then they released insignificantly slower card for 650$. They couldn't do better in terms of profit.
 
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2is

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Yeah but that would be basically all you'd use for a display, even 4x GTX Titans can't drive 3 4K monitors for gaming

They do 1080p quite well too just saying, you could spend that amount of money if you're crazy and able.
 

alcoholbob

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They do 1080p quite well too just saying, you could spend that amount of money if you're crazy and able.

They could but spending 30k just to run a 84 inch tv at non native res seems kinda fail to me
 

rgallant

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Yeah, as if everybody knew that 780 will be 650$ and not 850$. Judging by the reaction on this forum this was a good move for them, but they certainly won't make more profit on me in the long term by their pricing policy this generation.

ps. I just find it strange that nobody is upset with pricing policy of NV, yet there was yelling and screaming when AMD launched 7970 that it was too expensive, even though it offered better value then nv's flagship. It's like NV are free to do something without upsetting anybody which other companies can't. They nailed brand recognition and loyalty very well I must admit. The pricing policy for this generation was just awful for the custumer, first they release a mid-range card with high-end price tag, and a lot of people believed that this is high-end and argued arduously when someone called it mid-range, then they released their true high-end for 1000$ and when everybody who was willing to pay that much for a graphics card bought it then they released insignificantly slower card for 650$. They couldn't do better in terms of profit.
I think you summed it up well.
I'll pass on 28nm.
 

AdamK47

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I think I'll pick up a 780 as a PhysX card to keep my three Titans company.
 
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I think I'll pick up a 780 as a PhysX card to keep my three Titans company.

LOL! AdamK47, I supremely enjoy that you are an enthusiast among enthusiasts.

@ OP: You have the world's fastest GPU. Every moment you spend wishing you had that extra $350 - which, quite frankly, is probably not all that much to you if you could afford a $1k titan - you could be gaming on your beautiful Titan.
 
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