Titan owners and GTX 780

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lambchops511

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doesn't bother me, and even today still continue to purchase Titan for the extra (compute) performance. time == money, this is only $300-$400 saved per card which is really nothing in the grand scheme of things.
 

skipsneeky2

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LOL i remember paying $650 for my Evga gtx280 then like a while later frys refunded me $150 cash,think i used the money for a new motherboard for my q6600.

I def regretted buying that card and frys refused a refund to me claiming it was to valuable to chance a refund but the $700 6990 was fine to refund,what i think it was that all the stores got a flood of refunds of the gtx280.

Wonder if the Titan could suffer the no refund situation at such stores?
 

Lonbjerg

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Don't care about the GTX780, since I have a Titan...why would I care about lesser performing SKU's?
 

Keromyaou

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Titan and GTX780 is like GTX680 4GB and GTX670 2GB. The performance difference is about 10% in both cases. The initial price of GTX 680 4GB was $550-600 while that of GTX670 2GB was $400-450. Then the differential ratio is about 575/425 = 1.35. If this works for Titan/780, the price of Titan should be $650x1.35 = $878. The real price of Titan $1000 might be a bit over this value, but it's not that bad at all, I think. In addition Titan has its own premium value. Its computational power might be useful as well.
 

Lepton87

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Don't care about the GTX780, since I have a Titan...why would I care about lesser performing SKU's?

95% of the performance for 66% of the price and all that just a month after I made the purchase and I won't need the additional 3GB ever.
 

blackened23

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95% of the performance for 66% of the price and all that just a month after I made the purchase and I won't need the additional 3GB ever.

If you don't mind me asking, why would you get a Titan in the first place if you're not using surround? That's what it was designed for, and while I know some single resolution users bought it - that really isn't the target market. The design goal was for multi monitor, which is pretty obvious when you see that it has 6GB of VRAM. That is far beyond overkill for a single screen resolution, IMO.

I'm pretty indifferent for folks that have "buyer's remorse" over the Titan when they should have known well beforehand what they were getting into. A card specifically designed to be best utilized in triple QHD environments.
 

lavaheadache

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If you don't mind me asking, why would you get a Titan in the first place if you're not using surround? That's what it was designed for, and while I know some single resolution users bought it - that really isn't the target market. The design goal was for multi monitor, which is pretty obvious when you see that it has 6GB of VRAM. That is far beyond overkill for a single screen resolution, IMO.

I'm pretty indifferent for folks that have "buyer's remorse" over the Titan when they should have known well beforehand what they were getting into. A card specifically designed to be best utilized in triple QHD environments.

because the Titan is the fastest single gpu card out, end of story. Some people can't seem to grasp that. If you can't afford it then there are other cheaper alternatives that offer better bang for the buck but not more performance for a single gpu.
 

Meghan54

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because the Titan is the fastest single gpu card out, end of story. Some people can't seem to grasp that. If you can't afford it then there are other cheaper alternatives that offer better bang for the buck but not more performance for a single gpu.


Exactly. Guess I'd really upset a few around here if I mentioned I use my Titan on a 1920x1200 res. monitor, and a single monitor at that. But it sure handles Civ V better than any other single gpu card I've had lately, incl. a 7970 oc'd a bit, esp. at the end of the game.

And I suppose I'd really make 'em cry if I told them I bought the wife a GTX 780 today for her to play her puzzle games with.

Now to get rid of the 7950 and 6950 that are gathering dust now.
 

2is

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Exactly. Guess I'd really upset a few around here if I mentioned I use my Titan on a 1920x1200 res. monitor, and a single monitor at that. But it sure handles Civ V better than any other single gpu card I've had lately, incl. a 7970 oc'd a bit, esp. at the end of the game.

And I suppose I'd really make 'em cry if I told them I bought the wife a GTX 780 today for her to play her puzzle games with.

Now to get rid of the 7950 and 6950 that are gathering dust now.

I'm with you. I'm running 680 SLI on a single 1920x1200 monitor. Max Payne 3 has no trouble pegging both at 99% utilization.
 

Lepton87

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If you don't mind me asking, why would you get a Titan in the first place if you're not using surround? That's what it was designed for, and while I know some single resolution users bought it - that really isn't the target market. The design goal was for multi monitor, which is pretty obvious when you see that it has 6GB of VRAM. That is far beyond overkill for a single screen resolution, IMO.

I'm pretty indifferent for folks that have "buyer's remorse" over the Titan when they should have known well beforehand what they were getting into. A card specifically designed to be best utilized in triple QHD environments.
6GB is overkill for a single screen but its performance is still sub-par even for one 2560x1440 display. So that's a stupid argument. If multi-monitor was the sole target market they may as well sell them in Three-SLI bundles. If they had offered a 3GB version for less then I would've bought that but they didn't. I just wanted a fast single card and that was the only card that came close to my previous m-gpu set-up. That's why I bought it.
 

Lonbjerg

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95% of the performance for 66% of the price and all that just a month after I made the purchase and I won't need the additional 3GB ever.

Like you said...95% of the performance(and a LOT less DP perforamnce)...why would I care?
If I wanted a GTX780, I would have gotten one...but I wanted the Titan and have no regrets....learn to live with it *shrugs*

BTW, I don care about the i7 980X either FYI...see the simmilarity?
 

Lonbjerg

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Why Titan for single display?
For SSAA madness...I dislike MSAA and I really dislike FXAA, MLAA and all the other "surrogates"...SSAA is were the honey is for me...
 

5150Joker

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There's no denying the 780 is tempting. For example, if i could get $950 each (and no PayPal fee) + shipping for my SC Titans, I'd do it and then grab a couple 780s and pocket the rest of the cash. I only have a single 1440p display so 6 GB for me is overkill. Unfortunately at the time I had to buy a graphics card cuz I was just building a new PC and didn't want to buy a cheap graphics card to tide me over so I opted for the Titans.

You would have to be crazy to buy a Titan at full retail now though.
 

blackened23

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6GB is overkill for a single screen but its performance is still sub-par even for one 2560x1440 display. So that's a stupid argument. If multi-monitor was the sole target market they may as well sell them in Three-SLI bundles. If they had offered a 3GB version for less then I would've bought that but they didn't. I just wanted a fast single card and that was the only card that came close to my previous m-gpu set-up. That's why I bought it.

To be clear, I don't care what GPU or monitor anyone uses - the poster above who suggested that it boosts his self-esteem, apparently, to buy expensive hardware for himself and his wife, I don't think I laughed that hard in a long while. Bragging on an internet forum and thumping your own chest over buying hardware? I won't even get into how ridiculous that is. The subtle forum brag (Hey, look at how expensive my gear is!) is just sad and childish at the same time - it's just silicon. Get a grip.

But, let's get back to what you're saying here. It's such a stupid argument that you're sitting here whining about wasting 1000$ when you could have gotten a 780 ACX which is faster out of the box than Titan for substantially less. Since you just admitted that you don't need 6GB of VRAM, and conceded that 6GB of VRAM is a waste for a single screen. Am I missing something here? You're whining while simultaneously justifying your Titan purchase for your single screen resolution. It's so completely ironic and mind boggling.

The fact of the matter is, there are still very valid reasons to choose a Titan over a GTX 780 as it is a better card in many respects - If you're a developer that dabbles in CAD/CAM while occasionally gaming, OR you use triple screen resolution the Titan is clearly a superior card to the GTX 780. But, you were an early adopter and bought the Titan for a single screen, yet here you are whining about it. If it bothers you, don't be an early adopter and don't buy a product that is better served for a different niche - this isn't the first time nor will it be the last time where early adopters have to pay a hefty fee for a few months' enjoyment. It's happened to probably everyone here, the difference being most people don't complain about it. They understand the nature of being an early adopter.
 
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UaVaj

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6GB is overkill for a single screen but its performance is still sub-par even for one 2560x1440 display. So that's a stupid argument. If multi-monitor was the sole target market they may as well sell them in Three-SLI bundles. If they had offered a 3GB version for less then I would've bought that but they didn't. I just wanted a fast single card and that was the only card that came close to my previous m-gpu set-up. That's why I bought it.

well said.

titan sli is the necessary minimum for 5760x1080 surround display.

trisli is a compromise setup. not enough for surround 7680x1440 (quad titan is bearly enough), too much for 5760x1080.

as for single titan - it will simply choke - unless one likes playing on medium setting. perhap - anyone try out single titan on surround 4800x900?

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btw - you do not have to justify to anyone why you bought a titan. your money - spend it as you see fit.
 

Lepton87

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To be clear, I don't care what GPU or monitor anyone uses - the poster above who suggested that it boosts his self-esteem, apparently, to buy expensive hardware for himself and his wife, I don't think I laughed that hard in a long while. Bragging on an internet forum and thumping your own chest over buying hardware? I won't even get into how ridiculous that is. The subtle forum brag (Hey, look at how expensive my gear is!) is just sad and childish at the same time - it's just silicon. Get a grip.

But, let's get back to what you're saying here. It's such a stupid argument that you're sitting here whining about wasting 1000$ when you could have gotten a 780 ACX which is faster out of the box than Titan for substantially less. Since you just admitted that you don't need 6GB of VRAM, and conceded that 6GB of VRAM is a waste for a single screen. Am I missing something here? You're whining while simultaneously justifying your Titan purchase for your single screen resolution. It's so completely ironic and mind boggling.

The fact of the matter is, there are still very valid reasons to choose a Titan over a GTX 780 as it is a better card in many respects - If you're a developer that dabbles in CAD/CAM while occasionally gaming, OR you use triple screen resolution the Titan is clearly a superior card to the GTX 780. But, you were an early adopter and bought the Titan for a single screen, yet here you are whining about it. If it bothers you, don't be an early adopter and don't buy a product that is better served for a different niche - this isn't the first time nor will it be the last time where early adopters have to pay a hefty fee for a few months' enjoyment. It's happened to probably everyone here, the difference being most people don't complain about it. They understand the nature of being an early adopter.
You obviously didn't read the thread, I couldn't have gotten an 780 because it wasn't available at the time due to NVs strategy of milking their customers as much as they can. That's the vital point of this thread. Yet you missed the point entirely. They finally released a high-end card for 1000$ after selling a mid-range card dressed up as a high-end for a year and then waited with the release of 780 long enough so pretty much everybody who would have bought a 1000$ did it and then they released a card with the same performance for 2/3 of the price. They could have released a 780 and a titan together. That's my biggest beef, but that way most gamers would go for a 780 and people who use FP64 in CUDA apps would go for a Titan. Some gamers would also buy Titans for Three-SLI systems because they would think that 3 GB is not enough. My brand loyalty to NV just took a massive hit by that. It's very perplexing that people are VERY HAPPY with that behavior, yet a 7970 at 550$ caused an up-roar. I don't know how people get in this state that they will say and do everything so their "team" is portrayed in a positive light. Also to them their "team" can do no wrong. Being an early adopter was usually a very good thing for me, I bought 5870 right around the release and it was my best graphics card purchase ever. It had impressive longevity and an undisputed performance crown for over six months. Also 8800GTX 512 was only a very good purchase on my part, due to shortage of 8800GT I luckily bought it for its MSRP and that is the same price as 8800GT was going. So I had the best card for close to a year and GTX280 didn't make it worth less, it took 4850/4970 for it to take a substantial hit in value. So being an early adopter usually worked best, but this generation NV decided to milk consumers so their released a titan only to completely demolish its value as a gaming card in just 2 months. But most people have no problems with that, so I am an exception. I don't like how they managed the release cadence and pricing this generation but I have to admit it made the most sense in short term profit and probably in long term profits too, because people such as I are rare. I shouldn't have really expected a different reaction, most of the people who bought titans were NV's fans so reason, decency and other things don't really apply to them when it comes to nvidia's products.
 
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blackened23

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You obviously didn't read the thread, I couldn't have gotten an 780 because it wasn't available at the time due to NV strategy of milking their customers as much as they can. They finally released a high-end card for 1000$ after selling a mid-range card dressed up as a high-end for a year and then waited with the release of 780 long enough so pretty much everybody who would have bought a 1000$ did it and then they released a card with the same performance for 2/3 of the price. They could have released 780 and titan together. My brand loyalty to NV just took a massive hit by that. It's very perplexing that people are VERY HAPPY with that behavior, yet a 7970 at 550$ caused an up-roar. I don't know how people get in this state that they will say and do everything so their "team" is portrayed in a positive light. Also to them their "team" can do no wrong.

Well - let me share some insights on my thoughts when I learned of Titan's release. I saw 6GB on the Titan and immediately knew that it wasn't the card for me. 6GB, to me, screams multi monitor with the highest anti aliasing settings. 6GB allows you to run any type of AA or texture quality while 2-3GB requires one to to forego anti aliasing altogether, or lower it to FXAA (in surround resolutions). That's what the VRAM is for - for multi monitor and professional applications - so as mentioned - I saw 6GB and knew it wasn't my card. I highly suspected that nvidia would release something later in the year more fit for the masses, as they indeed have.

That's just me - I know others had differing opinions. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone that willingly purchased a Titan for a single screen resolution. If someone wants to do that with their money, hey that's cool. More power to them. It's their money and I don't care what they do with it, if a Titan gives them gaming pleasure i'm all for it.

Lastly, I also completely understand what you're saying. As I mentioned earlier, however, it's part of being an early adopter. This isn't the first or last time this has happened to early adopters. On that note, I really feel like you should have known that 6GB wasn't going a mass consumer oriented card for single screen resolutions. At least, that was my thought process. Shrug.
 
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2is

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You obviously didn't read the thread, I couldn't have gotten an 780 because it wasn't available at the time due to NV strategy of milking their customers as much as they can. They finally released a high-end card for 1000$ after selling a mid-range card dressed up as a high-end for a year and then waited with the release of 780 long enough so pretty much everybody who would have bought a 1000$ did it and then they released a card with the same performance for 2/3 of the price. They could have released 780 and titan together. My brand loyalty to NV just took a massive hit by that. It's very perplexing that people are VERY HAPPY with that behavior, yet a 7970 at 550$ caused an up-roar. I don't know how people get in this state that they will say and do everything so their "team" is portrayed in a positive light. Also to them their "team" can do no wrong.


You're confused. Being "very happy" with that behavior and not being surprised by it because it was clearly going to happen are two different concepts.

You obviously didn't do your research before dropping $1000
You admittedly bought it as a impulse decision
You admittedly have buyers remorse.

All personal problems and not something NVidia should be held accountable for.
 

Lepton87

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You're confused. Being "very happy" with that behavior and not being surprised by it because it was clearly going to happen are two different concepts.

You obviously didn't do your research before dropping $1000
You admittedly bought it as a impulse decision
You admittedly have buyers remorse.

All personal problems and not something NVidia should be held accountable for.

I'm not confused, it was an exaggeration. Historically NV didn't drop crazy expensive cards first and then their normal versions later when their crazy priced card already found most buyers many of whom would otherwise bought the cheaper card.How would the market react if the only card with G80 for a few months was 8800U for 850$? Then 8800GTX would take the stage for a lot less. It fells like something like that for gamers. it's the first time it happens and I don't like it at all and I'm just expressing my disapproval for that kind of marketing. Sadly I'm alone, most people find it perfectly fine.
 

rgallant

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we need more leaks on up coming products ,what ever happen to Tulip the nv intern btw [gtx280 die?]
 

rgallant

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I'm just expressing my disapproval for that kind of marketing. Sadly I'm alone, most people find it perfectly fine.
I agree with you so much I'll wait for the 20nm.2014
-nv has always sold / hyped sli but cripple's their vram on ref. cards so the next gen. looks better.
 
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