Titin?uavaj
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join date: Nov 2012
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speaking of titan's pricing.
For the same performance/price ratio in contrast to 680 and 7970ghz. Titan should had been priced at ~$849 for the 6gb version. There should also be a 3gb version too. Priced at ~$749.
The true premium is ~$150. T=$40, i=$25, t=$35, i=$25, n=$25.
Not a Titan owner but an owner of other luxury products, you know full well what you get into when you buy a premium product. You known there are other better price to performance products, but you want the best and don't care. Anyone who purchased a Titan, and feels "ripped off" is insane. I don't feel bad, I'd only feel bad if I was a Titan owner who paid 1k for the card, and then Nvidia 1-2 months later released another Titan card that was even better than the one I purchase for less. Then I'd be mad. But nope, you still own the best single GPU card out, no reason to be mad.
So much news about Titan all the time as if everyone owns it. What about all this rebranding going on? That annoys me more than anything. Taking something old and calling it new is just an insult to consumers.
I really don't understand why you bought it at all if you just fiddle with a few games. What did you upgrade from?
People who make more use of their Titans probably aren't as bothered.
Probably because I live in a way poorer country then most Titan owners here and to boot Titan was an impulse buy for me when I wasn't exactly sober and I got very mad at complications with my Quad Fire set-up in FarCry3. I actually spent 1250$ without getting better performance, one of the dumbest things I've ever done.
Do you normally buy $1000 video cards without doing any form of research? There was plenty of rumors and leaks that a cut down version of Titan could exist in the near future
If NVidia followed your business model, they wouldn't for very long because they'd go bankrupt in short order. Really? Announce upcoming products and shoot themselves in the foot? That would be about the stupidest thing they could do short of having a big "Don't buy me" sticker on their Titans.
Intel does it and they are doing just fine. Announcing cards a month before release wouldn't make them go bankrupt. Mercedes also announced its new S class well before release just as all automotive companies do. If someone bought an S class and Mercedes stealthy released a new model just a month later, IMHO he/she would have a good reason to be mad. A month isn't really that much time. If I had bought Titan on release date I wouldn't feel that way.
Nobody announces a month before release when their flagship is a month old. Not Intel, not Mercedes, not anybody.
Try again, this one is still 100% on you.
As far as the car analogy goes, that's not only inaccurate for the reasons above, but kind of dumb. There's new cars every year, it's a cycle everyone is familiar with. No one buys a 2012 in September not expecting the 2013's in about a months time.
Every year? The previous S class was released in 2005(!!!). I see some inconsistency in NV behavior, why did they give GTX280 owners rebates when AMD launched Radeon 4870? Now they are doing the same thing to their own card.
Every year? The previous S class was released in 2005(!!!). I see some inconsistency in NV behavior, why did they give GTX280 owners rebates when AMD launched Radeon 4870? Now they are doing the same thing to their own card.
There's a new S class every year. Go look it up. You're talking about a complete redesign which isn't the same thing. If you're going to use car analogies at least get it right. You messed up, you have buyers remorse and you have no one to blame but yourself.
People whom purchased Titan wanted the best single GPU card and that's what they got, and that still holds true after the 780 launch. Your argument fails on so many levels its laughable. nVidia made you an offer you were free to refuse but didnt. Period, The End.
I already explained the best I could. I bought it "quite late" in its short cycle, that is about a month ago and I didn't even use it in a way that it would prove useful. I only finished SC2 hots and just fiddled with other games, I didn't game more then for an hour aside from SC2. And now a hugely better deal comes along.
BTW. Why do you think it's going to be as much as 20% slower that a titan? I thought it would be something on the order of 10% slower so basically an insignificant amount and hardly noticeable.
agreed, I spent too much on a single card, more then I'm really comfortable with, yes it's a huge increase over GTX580, did someone actually benchmarked it against it and determined how much faster it is? I got a feeling that it's even faster then GTX580s in SLI so that's the first time a new flagship is faster then two former flagships working in SLI/CF since 8800GTX. I didn't see it benchmarked againts GTX580s in SLI so I'm not really sure it's actually faster but my gut feeling tells me it is. GTX680 was just 30% faster then GTX580 so clearly it was not meant to be high-end even though a lot of people insisted that it was.
You have an amazing ability to not understand written text. I never said I expected a rebate, only that it was offered when something similar happened.So you think you should get a rebate because you didn't think your decision through?
Titan was not part of a series. It was a release by itself. And jesus, if you purchases Titan for it's performance per dollar you truly made a terrible decision.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-performance.html
Titan definitely looks like a GREAT performance per dollar ratio /end sarcasm.
It's pointless talking sense with you though. A person who purchases a 1000 dollar card based on a whim, who has zero clue when the 700 series is being released or anything about it despite it being widely known that it was being released around this time, you clearly aren't the most forward thinking person. My biggest problem with people in general, they make mistakes, and have to pass it off on other people rather than take responsibility for their actions.
I'm pretty sure NV could have released GTX780 along with Titan just like it released k20 along with k20x, but few people would buy a titan then, because its value proposition would've looked even worse then it did. Even if NV couldn't do that it would be a lot more fair if GTX780 was at least announced but basically I feel that 99% of the blame is on me for not thinking about a slightly more cut-down GK110 at a significantly lower price point coming just a while later
I don't count a lifting or a new engine as a new car model, maybe you do, I don't. It's still W221. The end of car analogies.
Funny how the same wasn't said when 4870 launched and NV offered a rebate. It's the best card, it commands a premium, it's still the best, blah blah blah, NV still offered a rebate. Now they are doing the same thing as AMD did back then, render their flagship card's performance per dollar completely ludicrous after so little time. I already said I didn't think it through, I just asked if other Titan's owners feel the same. If you don't own a Titan so why do you even post in this thread? It's not like you said anything that wasn't said before, even by my opening post. BTW. They didn't release K20x and then K20, they didn't release 8800Ultra and then 8800GTX. Not only are they increasing prices, they also changed their release cadence to milk more money. I don't like it.
Maybe its just Nvidia & Jen-Hsun Huang trying to make a boatload of profit & royally screwing their loyal fans is only an after effect, in their own minds !Intel does it and they are doing just fine. Announcing cards a month before release wouldn't make them go bankrupt. Mercedes also announced its new S class well before release just as all automotive companies do. If someone bought an S class and Mercedes stealthy released a new model just a month later, IMHO he/she would have a good reason to be mad. A month isn't really that much time. If I had bought Titan on release date I wouldn't feel that way.
I don't need to own a Titan to have an opinion on the matter, you posted in a public forum and got public replies. 8800 ultra and gtx are the same family. 7xx isn't a Titan and it isn't a 6xx series. but even if I were to play along with your analogy, they did release the 8800GTX then the 8800GT.
I asked how they felt about it, I didn't ask people to repeat what I said in my opening post in an impolite manner. 8800GT was a different chip, G92 wasn't G80 and it wasn't released 3 months after 8800GTX. It was released almost a YEAR later, so comparing that is asinine. And comparing the cards by name does not make sense to say the least, 9800+ and GTS250 are not the same family, Titan and 780 are not either but they use the exact same silicon just binned differently just like GTX680 and GTX770.