Titan Z announced - where are the reviews?

[lehtv]

Shouldn't discussion related to any mod comment be moved to Moderator Discussions? (including this) This thread feels derailed already.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Yeah, this exchange should be in PM or Mods discussions, both at fault IMO

But back to the topic, why aren't there any reviews? Is it because NV didn't send reviewers a card to test or they just asked not to test until some magical driver is released?

 

[moonbogg]

This card is made to replace the Quadro, Basically all a Quardo ever was is an over priced version of what ever the current GeForce card is. But the Quardo was higher priced than this, so they made the Z at a cheaper price point.

OK I am wrong go figure, I'm by no means a Nvidia fan boy but feel free........


Link to an supposedly SLI rig with 2 Z'S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSGGeiAbCPY

I don't think it can replace a Quadro. With a quadro you are paying for specific driver support and compatibility, something I suspect this Titan Z lacks. For instance, certain features with Solidworks will not work with this card, something a $700 Quadro can support.

 

[RussianSensation]

This card is made to replace the Quadro, Basically all a Quardo ever was is an over priced version of what ever the current GeForce card is. But the Quardo was higher priced than this, so they made the Z at a cheaper price point.

Let's say we go along with your point, why spend $1K extra on this over 2 Titan blacks? Why spend $2K extra on 2 Titan Zs over 4 Titan Blacks? Surely a person who can afford $3K+ on a GPU can afford to buy a new case.

This card starts to make sense for scientific research/compute 24/7 over 2 years, where 3-4 of them are water cooled in 1 chassis and power consumption will come into play which makes them superior to building 2 chassis with 8 Titan Blacks. In this case we are talking 6-8 GK110s in 1 chassis for $9-12K (beastly!), but then hardly relevant on a gaming forum.

From a gaming perspective, it is going to fail at this price:

1) 3 Titan Blacks will beat it for the same price
2) 3 GTX780TI (especially KingPIN edition cards) will beat this easily and still cost less
3) 2 295X2s will crush it for the same price

Those are just some of the better gaming options.

The reason NV put a $1K mark-up on this card over 295X2 is because the key target market are not gamers and hence they can get away with that $1K mark-up for universities, research centers, financial institutions, etc.

 

[Vesku]

"Nvidia evidently didn't sample the Titan Z to the press." - http://techreport.com/news/26520/nvidia-geforce-titan-z-is-selling-online-for-3-000

Not a good look to be avoiding reviews of the product, especially from a marketing heavy company like Nvidia.

 

[RussianSensation]

Not a good look to be avoiding reviews of the product, especially from a marketing heavy company like Nvidia.

But you know a review was bound to come out eventually. Here is one video review that tells us everything we need to know - this card is massively underwhelming for the price.

I am not going to type out all the cards in comparison but I'll pick some of the most obvious solutions against it:

1) 2x Titan Blacks ("TBs") ($2K)
2) 295X2 ($1.5K)
3) 295X2 in CF ($3K)

BF4 @ 4K
2 TBs = 55.2 fps
295X2 (DX11) = 39.1
295X2 (Mantle) = 47 fps
295X2 CF = 72 fps
Titan Z = 45.2

Crysis 3 VHQ @ 4K
2 TBs = 33.2 fps
295X2 = 32.8 fps
Titan Z = 29.6 fps

Bioshock Infinite @ 4K
2 TBs = 71.1 fps
295X2 = 58.8 fps
Titan Z = 61.9 fps

Temperature
Titan Black = 82*C
295X2 = 65*C
Titan Z = 82*C

If one needs double precision/CUDA compute performance in a very small case / server rack, then Titan Z is worth looking at. As a pure gaming card however, it's obviously an inferior solution to 2 Titan Blacks (nevermind 3) and even well can't outperform a single 295X2, but of course one can buy 2x 295X2s for the price of one of these cards for gaming...

 

[RaulF]

Why does this card perform so poorly?

Is it the low clock. I have own 780Ti in SLI before, and they are a force to be recon with.

 

[Grooveriding]

I expected no reviewers to receive one. Reviews would be abysmal on this card. Slower than 780ti SLI, 295X2, 290X CF and likely 290 CF & 780 SLI. All for the low price of $3000...

Remember Titan's release ? Every review site got one because it was the fastest card available.

TitanicZ is just a joke card and you can't really find anything positive about it. Even the CUDA argument is empty. Why not get 3 Titan Blacks instead ?!

This card makes no sense.

 

[DooKey]

I expected no reviewers to receive one. Reviews would be abysmal on this card. Slower than 780ti SLI, 295X2, 290X CF and likely 290 CF & 780 SLI. All for the low price of $3000...

Remember Titan's release ? Every review site got one because it was the fastest card available.

TitanicZ is just a joke card and you can't really find anything positive about it. Even the CUDA argument is empty. Why not get 3 Titan Blacks instead ?!

This card makes no sense.

The only way I could make sense of it is if it is targeted to the workstation crowd and they only have one PCI-e slot. But in reality it's a pretty worthless card at the 3K price point.

 

[SlickR12345]

What a useless and uber overpriced card. I mean I haven't seen a worst price per performance value out of any GPU in the history of GPU's. Maybe in the 80's when they were the size of a whole computer.

Slower, hotter, louder than 780TI SLI, Titan SLI, 295x, 290CF, you name it.

For $2000 you could buy 2xtitan black or be even smarter and buy 2x780ti for $1500 and overclock the hell out of them, thus making them way faster than titan black and saving $500 over 2xtitan black and saving $1500 over Titan Z or you could just buy the 295x and have the fastest single slot GPU on the market for $1500 that runs cool and quiet.

I mean Nvidia is just a miserable company right now with this card, I haven't seen a worse GPU if I can even call it that.

And NO this card wasn't meant for computing, even at that AMD wins with the 295x and they've been winning most of the compute benchmarks across the board anyways, so at best Titan Z is going to equal the performance in compute, but again at $1500 more and in fact it was absolutely 100% meant for gaming and Nvidia chief and executive and PR department said multiple times to different sources that its meant for gaming and to be the "best performing gaming card".

 

[DominionSeraph]

"Nvidia evidently didn't sample the Titan Z to the press."

Not a good look to be avoiding reviews of the product, especially from a marketing heavy company like Nvidia.

Google "Tesla K20X review," or "Quadro K6000 review."

Not sampling them to the press doesn't mean they're not selling them.

 

[OCGuy]

9 left @ Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-D...ywords=titan+z

 

[OCGuy]

Titan-Z specific drivers were released.

 

[Kenmitch]

TitanicZ is just a joke card and you can't really find anything positive about it.

TitanZ is the worlds fastest single fan gaming gpu available today!

Nuff said

Kudos to NVidia!

 

[Gloomy]

TitanZ is the worlds fastest single fan gaming gpu available today!

Nuff said

Kudos to NVidia!

It's also the fastest card with three separate heatsinks inside. And the fastest triple slot card, too.

 

[Kenmitch]

It's also the fastest card with three separate heatsinks inside. And the fastest triple slot card, too.

Wow....That explains the price premium. You get three sinks, three slots so I guess being 3x the price of Titan Black makes sense now.

 

[gradoman]

Because it has an axial fan and a 3-slot cooler to begin with, you need 4 slots of space per Titan Z. Might as well just get 4 780s...

It looks to be 2.5 slots with a three slot bracket.

 

[Sohaltang]

For the price I'm kinda puzzled why they did not take a play form The 295x and water cool it. They could bump the clocks and at least make it more competitive.

 

[lavaheadache]

lol, wtf? why are there no reviews? Something tells me they are a bit embarrassed about the card.

Nvidia is definitely a company that likes to flaunt their flagship products and the sounds of crickets that surround this card is a bit uncharacteristic.

 

[Rickyyy369]

Its an epic looking card but that price is just pure stupidity. Does Nvidia take their customers for fools?

 

[dmoney1980]

Also, just noticed that the msrp of the titan black fell $200 on amazon. It's now listed for $1,086 with prime

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=541966

 

[Granseth]

Have people now changed their attitude towards Titan Black and the 999$ price. Will the Titan Z make that ridiculous price seem right?
I know if you just look at the numbers this makes 295x2 seem like a bargain, but you still get two 290x in xfire for quite a bit less. For me the only things that makes these expensive cards seem OK to buy is that there is an even more ridiculous prized card out there.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

It's also the fastest card with three separate heatsinks inside. And the fastest triple slot card, too.

Technically the 295x2 has three separate heatsinks inside, so I guess Titan Z can claim to be the fastest triple slot card.

Unless the rumors of a triple slot powercolor 295x2 air cooled card come true.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Its an epic looking card but that price is just pure stupidity. Does Nvidia take their customers for fools?

As much as Porsche, Lamborghini, and Ferrari when you can get a WRX for $26k.

9 left @ Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-D...ywords=titan+z

Now 7.

 

[NTMBK]

As much as Porsche, Lamborghini, and Ferrari when you can get a WRX for $26k.

Supercars are highly visible status symbols, and remain so for years to come. Graphics cards sit inside a case under your desk and go out of date within a couple of years.