While I know how much you guys like your conspiracy theories, that's sadly not the case. The reason is far more mundane: NVIDIA doesn't see a need to sample these cards.
These are extremely low volume parts that at least officially NVIDIA is primarily targeting towards prosumer level compute users (the Titan bread & butter). And for the gamers who will buy Titan Z, well they'd buy it anyhow or a pair of Titan Blacks, etc. NVIDIA has enough market and mind share that the buttons they need to push for a product like Titan Z are with CUDA users and boutique system builders, not hardware reviewers.
Our advice is pretty simple: if you like AMD, go with the R9 295X2. If you are ambivalent about the vendor then you probably still want to go with the 295X2 for budget and performance reasons. If you like NVIDIA then the Titan Z is the only game in town, other than doubling up on Titan Black or 780 Ti.
As far as gaming is concerned I don't think anyone is under the perception that Titan Z is competitive on a price/performance basis. You buy it for NVIDIA's reputation and ecosystem, especially as G-Sync monitors finally hit the market.
If you like NVIDIA then the Titan Z is the only game in town, other than doubling up on Titan Black or 780 Ti.
As far as gaming is concerned I don't think anyone is under the perception that Titan Z is competitive on a price/performance basis. You buy it for NVIDIA's reputation and ecosystem, especially as G-Sync monitors finally hit the market.
Personally, I feel that Nvidia is simply trying to sweep this entire launch under the rug. I mean, honestly, when was the last time Nvidia was this quiet about the release of a top tier halo video card? The answer is 'never'. Not even the FX 5800 Ultra "dustbuster" was abandoned by their marketing department this quickly.While I know how much you guys like your conspiracy theories, that's sadly not the case. The reason is far more mundane: NVIDIA doesn't see a need to sample these cards.
While I know how much you guys like your conspiracy theories, that's sadly not the case. The reason is far more mundane: NVIDIA doesn't see a need to sample these cards.
These are extremely low volume parts that at least officially NVIDIA is primarily targeting towards prosumer level compute users (the Titan bread & butter). And for the gamers who will buy Titan Z, well they'd buy it anyhow or a pair of Titan Blacks, etc. NVIDIA has enough market and mind share that the buttons they need to push for a product like Titan Z are with CUDA users and boutique system builders, not hardware reviewers.
Our advice is pretty simple: if you like AMD, go with the R9 295X2. If you are ambivalent about the vendor then you probably still want to go with the 295X2 for budget and performance reasons. If you like NVIDIA then the Titan Z is the only game in town, other than doubling up on Titan Black or 780 Ti.
As far as gaming is concerned I don't think anyone is under the perception that Titan Z is competitive on a price/performance basis. You buy it for NVIDIA's reputation and ecosystem, especially as G-Sync monitors finally hit the market.
So, as far as they are concerned, we should just buy it out of love for nVidia or we aren't worthy. The only thing that I get out of that that makes sense is they won't sell any more by letting people sample it's performance. Likely less.
No hate at you Ryan. Thanks for coming by and telling us nVidia's position.
Either Nvidia release a gaming card (GTX 790) to compete against R9 295X in price and in gaming performance, or they dont really care too much about selling the dual GK110 to gamers and will continue to sell the GTX Titan Z to rich people who just doesnt care and people who need the 1/3FP32.
People who need the FP32 will go with a pair of Titan Black that smash Titan Z on performance for much less $$. So there's no justification for it. It will only sell to people with too much money and no sense. IF NV thinks it will sell well at that price... thats how much they think of their fans.
ULTIMATE POWER. THE NEW GeForce® GTX TITAN Z. GeForce® GTX TITAN Z is a gaming monster, the fastest card weve ever built to power the most extreme PC gaming rigs on the planet. Stacked with 5760 cores and 12 GB of memory, this dual GPU gives you the power to drive even the most insane multi-monitor displays and 4K hyper PC machines
While I know how much you guys like your conspiracy theories, that's sadly not the case. The reason is far more mundane: NVIDIA doesn't see a need to sample these cards.
These are extremely low volume parts that at least officially NVIDIA is primarily targeting towards prosumer level compute users (the Titan bread & butter). And for the gamers who will buy Titan Z, well they'd buy it anyhow or a pair of Titan Blacks, etc. NVIDIA has enough market and mind share that the buttons they need to push for a product like Titan Z are with CUDA users and boutique system builders, not hardware reviewers.
Our advice is pretty simple: if you like AMD, go with the R9 295X2. If you are ambivalent about the vendor then you probably still want to go with the 295X2 for budget and performance reasons. If you like NVIDIA then the Titan Z is the only game in town, other than doubling up on Titan Black or 780 Ti.
As far as gaming is concerned I don't think anyone is under the perception that Titan Z is competitive on a price/performance basis. You buy it for NVIDIA's reputation and ecosystem, especially as G-Sync monitors finally hit the market.
While I know how much you guys like your conspiracy theories, that's sadly not the case. The reason is far more mundane: NVIDIA doesn't see a need to sample these cards.
These are extremely low volume parts that at least officially NVIDIA is primarily targeting towards prosumer level compute users (the Titan bread & butter). And for the gamers who will buy Titan Z, well they'd buy it anyhow or a pair of Titan Blacks, etc. NVIDIA has enough market and mind share that the buttons they need to push for a product like Titan Z are with CUDA users and boutique system builders, not hardware reviewers.
Our advice is pretty simple: if you like AMD, go with the R9 295X2. If you are ambivalent about the vendor then you probably still want to go with the 295X2 for budget and performance reasons. If you like NVIDIA then the Titan Z is the only game in town, other than doubling up on Titan Black or 780 Ti.
As far as gaming is concerned I don't think anyone is under the perception that Titan Z is competitive on a price/performance basis. You buy it for NVIDIA's reputation and ecosystem, especially as G-Sync monitors finally hit the market.
I get adds about Titan Z that takes me to:
http://www.nvidia.com/gtx-700-graphics-cards?m=gtx-titan-z
The card does have a place.
It have a TDP of 375W vs Titan SLI with 500W.
It use 3 slots instead of 4 slots.
Power requirements have gone down, space requirements have gone down. For people who run clusters of these cards, those points can be important.
Who are you or anyone else here to decide if a person should buy the Titan Z instead of Titan SLI anyway? Apparantly you people don`t have the money for it since you are complaining, but that doesnt mean there arent people who buy the newest of the newest or just want a Nvidia card thats the greatest out there. For bragging rights or whatever they buy it for.
It's kinda sad that a site won't do a review unless given free samples. Is anandtech that hard up for cash? Would they not make back the $3000 in site traffic revenue?
From a single niche review? No way.
Conclusion
Let's begin on a positive note. When you don't care about spending a grand more or less, Tones uses their TIZAir system to prove that you can construct a very special high-end system with a basis of two Titan-Z cards. More importantly, the system once again affirms the excellent assembly skills of the Belgian team, which can also be of use to you when you're purchasing a system that isn't quite as pricey. We would recommend choosing different video cards than the Titan-Z ...
As we already mentioned in the introduction of this review, the price / performance ratio of the Titan-Z simply isn't reasonable. Two Titan Blacks are faster, and will save you well over 1000 euros. The main advantage of the Titan-Z lies in that you get comparable performance on a single card. Since it's a three slot card, you can't place one in a Mini-ITX system, which eliminates the possibility of creating a super fast mini system.
Worse yet, the performance of the Titan-Z is simply disappointing in many tests. In the best case scenarios, this correlates with the slightly lower clock speeds of GPU and memory, but we also see many examples of games simply being unable to handle the card. While this can probably be addressed through driver optimizations, that's not something you should be dependent on after spending some 2800 euros. We couldn't help but notice that performance is comparatively better for the UHD resolution than it is for the Full HD resolution; we get the impression that this was the focus during the development of the driver - and that's obviously not a strange choice.
That said, we wouldn't recommend this product to gamers anyway: two Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 Ti or AMD Radeon R9 290X cards often times offer roughly similar performance for only a fraction of the money. Only two Titan-Zs in SLI offer significantly higher performance, but the required investment is incredibly high, to the point where we wouldn't even consider these cards for our Ultimate PC Advice.
As a result, Nvidia stresses that these cards are primarily intended for GPGPU applications in workstations. However, when looking at these benchmarks, we again fail to see a convincing image that justifies the price of these cards. While the green team admittedly takes the lead in various benchmarks, performance is only truly convincing in the double precision benchmarks, where you once again need two of these cards to truly get the best performance by a large margin. We're sure that some applications exist where the expenditure can be justified, where time is money and the extra cost will be paid for - but for the majority of users, we can only conclude that Nvidia's dual-GPU flagship simply isn't the best choice.
PCper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4tseWkngtY
-R9 295X2 wins in gaming (big surprise)
-Titan Z wins in power consumption by 150W (big surprise)
-Titan Z is quieter (actual surprise)
The skinny guy on the left keeps pointing out back to the Titan Z price and emphasize that you can get two 295x2 and three or four 780 ti for the price of Titan Z (which he add do not have multiple DP for surround 4k). He look like he was either genuinely surprise or just trolling NV LOL
Well lets see,
according to this site
http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/electric/electricity-calculator.htm
The 125W difference in power will save you $131.4 a year if your run the card 24/7.
According to my Calculator it will take you 7.61 Years to save a $1000 over a Titan Black Sli.
If you are a guy who has $3K to shell over a card, surely you will upgrade before 7 years, wouldn't you.?
For the space argument, with the $1000 you save you could both get a different/bigger Case & a new desk if the original reason you wanted a TitanZ because you wanted to save a slot or didn't have a desk at your work for the bigger case.
Just in case some one is still waiting for an English review that compares the Z tot he 295X2. Spoiler alert, it what everyone here (who is not straight NV fansboys) has been saying along.
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/541...li-review-incl-tones-tizair-system-conclusion
http://www.cnet.com/news/nvidia-ceo-sees-future-in-cars-and-gaming-q-a/Do you anticipate that happening even with the $3,000 pricing?
Huang: Yeah. And the reason for that is the people who buy Titans and Titan Zs have an insatiable need for computing capability, graphics computing capability. So either they got tired of using just a 1,080p monitor and they just bought a 4K. My Titan all of a sudden's not enough. For a 4K monitor, a $3,000 to $5,000 monitor, I need something bigger to drive it. So that's Titan Z.