TMO SGS3 - try Jelly Bean now, or wait till it matures?

[glen]

Ok, got the SGS3.
Looks like CM10 is sort of a beta stage if I understand it.
Is there another JB mod?
What are you all using?

 

[bucwylde23]

Just make a nandroid and give it a shot. Can always read up on known issues before hand so you know what you are getting into. Part of the fun is just testing out ROM's and finding something you like.
You can always revert back to your nandroid if you don't like it.
Might want to check out XDA forums and Rootzwiki those are the best places to find the good stable ROM's.

 

[glen]

Been about a month.
Are we any closer to an official release or a stable leak/beta?

 

[VashHT]

I've been using CM10 or AOKP JB for about 2-3 weeks now on my ATT GS3 and it's pretty much stable enough for a daily driver. Tell me any specific requirements you have for your phone and I'll let you know if they're working in the current builds, but for what I use my phone for it's good enough for a daily driver and way smoother and more responsive than stock.

 

[Cobalt]

Lovin' JB on my AT&T One X.

 

[Theshawty]

I must say I'm gonna leave JB to mature. Memleaks and the bad camera are two reasons why. I don't wanna have to constantly reboot my device because of memory leaks and I do take a lot of photos every now and then, and the stock Samsung camera app OWNS.

AOSP and a good camera app have never really clicked.

 

[s44]

I moved from ICS to JB on my Nexus, and honestly it's not a huge leap. Smoother homescreen scrolling, cool/smooth app transitions. That's about it, except for Google Now which still hasn't learned enough to be really useful.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Memleaks, hwcomposer issues are ehhh... ICS is fine. And it's really just under the hood small animation changes. The SGS3 cruises through ICS as it is....

 

[Theshawty]

Memleaks, hwcomposer issues are ehhh... ICS is fine. And it's really just under the hood small animation changes. The SGS3 cruises through ICS as it is....

How dare you say JB is only small under the hood changes? Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. Try running official JB on a Google device (Gnex, Moto Xoom) and then say what you think.

 

[jiffylube1024]

I moved from ICS to JB on my Nexus, and honestly it's not a huge leap. Smoother homescreen scrolling, cool/smooth app transitions. That's about it, except for Google Now which still hasn't learned enough to be really useful.

Really? I notice a huge difference between android 4.0 and 4.1 on my gnex. Much smoother and always responsive on 4.1.

 

[cl-scott]

Jelly Bean itself is stable, but there are some custom ROMs which are just kind of getting started. According to some of the developers, Jelly Bean made some major changes under the hood which is meaning a lot of the features you find in ICS ROMs have to be more or less completely reworked.

That said, I've been using the AOKP nightlies on my GNex for a while now, and they seem pretty solid. Still lacking a few things I miss from ICS, like the ability to unlink ringer and notification volumes (and if someone tells me that's in CM10, I may just switch), but it's coming along. CM10 and AOKP seem to borrow code from one another quite liberally, so I would assume CM10 is in a pretty similar state. They are certainly usable for day to day things, but they are probably lacking a few features you may want from ICS.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

How dare you say JB is only small under the hood changes? Clearly, you don't know what you're talking about. Try running official JB on a Google device (Gnex, Moto Xoom) and then say what you think.

it's animation changes and getting it to run fast.

there aren't immense feature upgrades or anything that makes ICS look like it's lacking. It's kinda like the Froyo bump to GB. GB sped things up a bit, but didn't really bring anything new to the table.

If you have a fast enough phone like the SGS3, I don't think CM10 makes that big of a difference. Furthermore until issues like the hwcomposer are used, JB isn't going to appear that much faster. This is probably what s44 was referring to when he said it does't seem that much faster.

Remember, JB uses animations kinda like the iPhone so you feel its faster. In some regards it is faster, but scrolling screen to screen on my SGS2, it's definitely NOT 60 fps. We can attribute this to the lack of drivers and the memleak, and for that I don't see CM10 as a huge upgrade to CM9 at its current state for the SGS2. SGS3 development is about in the same place, so those are the same challenges.

Given that the SGS3 runs CM9 so smoothly though, I don't see too much gains possibly coming from CM10. I guess what I'm saying is you could make Doom 2 GPU accelerated, but does it matter if brute cpu power can do it just fine at 5000 fps? Ok a bit exaggerated, but what I'm saying is the SGS3 can beast through ICS already.

But perhaps I'm doing some apples & oranges comparison because when I say the SGS3 flies, it's because I'm basing it off the Touchwiz launcher. That thing seems to fly and make my SGS2 + CM9 + Custom kernel + Apex look slow.

 

[Theshawty]

it's animation changes and getting it to run fast.

there aren't immense feature upgrades or anything that makes ICS look like it's lacking. It's kinda like the Froyo bump to GB. GB sped things up a bit, but didn't really bring anything new to the table.

If you have a fast enough phone like the SGS3, I don't think CM10 makes that big of a difference. Furthermore until issues like the hwcomposer are used, JB isn't going to appear that much faster. This is probably what s44 was referring to when he said it does't seem that much faster.

Remember, JB uses animations kinda like the iPhone so you feel its faster. In some regards it is faster, but scrolling screen to screen on my SGS2, it's definitely NOT 60 fps. We can attribute this to the lack of drivers and the memleak, and for that I don't see CM10 as a huge upgrade to CM9 at its current state for the SGS2. SGS3 development is about in the same place, so those are the same challenges.

Given that the SGS3 runs CM9 so smoothly though, I don't see too much gains possibly coming from CM10. I guess what I'm saying is you could make Doom 2 GPU accelerated, but does it matter if brute cpu power can do it just fine at 5000 fps? Ok a bit exaggerated, but what I'm saying is the SGS3 can beast through ICS already.

But perhaps I'm doing some apples & oranges comparison because when I say the SGS3 flies, it's because I'm basing it off the Touchwiz launcher. That thing seems to fly and make my SGS2 + CM9 + Custom kernel + Apex look slow.

When JB is working properly in all aspects, you'll notice the changes. Project Butter, for instance, makes the animations 60fps all through. Currently, though, Project Butter isn't too well incorporated, and mix that with hwcomposer issues and memory leaks and that's why you're saying what you're saying.

If you ever watched the livestream from Google I/O, you wouldn't call JB just minor under the hood changes. It's more than that, my friend. ICS, if anything, was more cosmetic changes from GB, really.

 

[Raduque]

If I had a GS3, I'd be running the shipping rom + root. I don't like Google-stock Android.

 

[Theshawty]

If I had a GS3, I'd be running the shipping rom + root. I don't like Google-stock Android.

I love stock Android, but the SMS app looks like shit. :/

 

[Raduque]

I love stock Android, but the SMS app looks like shit. :/

It all looks like shit, imo. I've also gotten used to how Samsung TW works, and I expect AOSP/AOKP/CM# roms to work the same way, and I get frustrated when they don't.

 

[glen]

Is the version leaked in August the real deal?
Since I haev waited this long, should I wait a few more days for the official release?

 

[Muadib]

Is the version leaked in August the real deal?
Since I haev waited this long, should I wait a few more days for the official release?

You should wait. Do you really want the headache JB will be if you don't. Heck, just reading this thread has me looking for aspirin.

 

[Elropian]

Lovin' JB on my AT&T One X.

Well that should tell him everything he needs to know about running it on an entirely different device on an entirely different network.

lol

 

[glen]

The delima is that I assume:
Galaxy Nexus JB > SGS3 ICS
So, of course I want the update since I paid for the newer and now more expensive hardware.

 

[Muyoso]

Here is what will happen. You will flash a Jellybean rom and you will think its awesome. You will get it all set up and use it for a week or more and then you will start to notice annoying bugs. You will ignore these for a while as the bugs get worse and worse because you already spent the time to set up the new rom. Then you will end up back where you are now waiting for a stable and relatively bug free implementation of Jellybean. Been through this multiple times. Totally worth waiting until something stable is out.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

When JB is working properly in all aspects, you'll notice the changes. Project Butter, for instance, makes the animations 60fps all through. Currently, though, Project Butter isn't too well incorporated, and mix that with hwcomposer issues and memory leaks and that's why you're saying what you're saying.

If you ever watched the livestream from Google I/O, you wouldn't call JB just minor under the hood changes. It's more than that, my friend. ICS, if anything, was more cosmetic changes from GB, really.

So I could say JB is a sped up ICS. I think most people on this board and phone enthusiasts will say ICS was a much bigger upgrade. Look at the amount of time OEMs needed to roll updates out versus with JB. Look at how CyangenMod development took so long with CM9 as opposed to CM10. Why else was CM9 lacking features compared to CM7 but more focused on getting it up and running on devices. CM10 adds a huge number of features that were never merged from CM7 in CM9.

I certainly look forward to the hwcomposer and memleak issues being 100% resolved, but I think we're close now.

Sorry probably my following of development isn't as relevant for the S4 versions of this phone. It's mainly Exynos related.

 

[WelshBloke]

If I had a GS3, I'd be running the shipping rom + root. I don't like Google-stock Android.

That's what I'm doing. Samsung JB ROM with a bunch of stuff nuked in titanium.

 

[Bryf50]

I've been running CM10 nightlies on my VZW S3 and they keep getting better and better with each nightly. At this point they are easily daily drivable and feel extremely smooth.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I run JB on my GS3 (VZW). Works great. We don't have a Verizon leak yet so we are working with ported Tmobile, ATT, and Sprint leaks. Still, I like it. Snappier than ICS in my experience.

Here is what will happen. You will flash a Jellybean rom and you will think its awesome. You will get it all set up and use it for a week or more and then you will start to notice annoying bugs. You will ignore these for a while as the bugs get worse and worse because you already spent the time to set up the new rom. Then you will end up back where you are now waiting for a stable and relatively bug free implementation of Jellybean. Been through this multiple times. Totally worth waiting until something stable is out.

They are stable. You don't need to spend time setting up anything. Titanium Backup and when you flash and clear your cache etc. SImply restore your titanium backup. All your settings and apps drop back in like you never left. SO if one release doesn't work right for you, try a different one.

So simple yet people make it sound so hard.