To all the whiney people complaining about the price of gasoline...

[HardcoreRobot]

i want gas to be $10 a gallon

not joking one bit

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well, as so often is the case, the whining can be deferred to stupidity. People are dumb, and they complain whenever they can about anything they can.

Actually I complain a lot, but I like these raised gas prices, because they just may educate the public a little bit on what they have, what is finite, and how to manage money. Not much of a hope of that, of course, but one can dream.

I'm starting to hate this gas price vs bottled water comparison.

You have a choice to buy or not buy bottled water.

Plus only crack heads actually buy much bottle water, especially at retail prices. I can buy a gallon of it at walmart for $.55 or something. Find me gas at that price

The price of gas usually doesn't bother me too much until it's passed down to the consumer via higher prices for items that need to be delivered interstate via Trucks. Just wait to see how much Produce will cost those who don't live in states that have a lot of farms that produces it.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i have a friend in Amsterdam and gas there is $5/gal. most people don't own cars for that reason. they use bikes to get around. he scoffs at our complaints about gas prices.

Really rather incomporable. How many people in Amsterdamn live 20 miles from work? How many live 3 miles from the closest store, 5 from the closest grocer, etc.? The structure of cities is totally different in most of North America to European cities, where a greater percentage of people live in close proximity to their jobs/services.
DobojiMarry her and her wages will cover the gas increase!

Sure, I just have to shell out the money for a ring, and a wedding.... excuse me while I cry quietly to myself in the corner.

-Max

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
i want gas to be $10 a gallon

not joking one bit

So the "gas guzzling SUVs" won't be on the road? So everyone will have to have a hybrid? Care to elaborate or shall I continue making assumptions about your character?

 

[MechJinx]

I'm interested to see how high the price of gas has to get before it starts making a noticeable impact on consumption. Sure, I don't like the higher prices and hear people complaining about the higher prices, but from what I have read, there has not been a noticeable impact on consumption. In fact, I heard a report last week that said that consumption was actually up from last year. So, gas companies have no reason to make any efforts to lower the price because even though people are complaining, they are still buying gas at the higher price. Nothing is going to change until the bottom line of oil corporations starts to be affected in a negative way.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i have a friend in Amsterdam and gas there is $5/gal. most people don't own cars for that reason. they use bikes to get around. he scoffs at our complaints about gas prices.

Really rather incomporable. How many people in Amsterdamn live 20 miles from work? How many live 3 miles from the closest store, 5 from the closest grocer, etc.? The structure of cities is totally different in most of North America to European cities, where a greater percentage of people live in close proximity to their jobs/services.
DobojiMarry her and her wages will cover the gas increase!

i think you will see more people hitting bikes who can. there are some similarities. when forced by higher prices we will compromise. already people are trading in their SUVs and new car buyers are checking the MPG more carefully.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well, as so often is the case, the whining can be deferred to stupidity. People are dumb, and they complain whenever they can about anything they can.

Actually I complain a lot, but I like these raised gas prices, because they just may educate the public a little bit on what they have, what is finite, and how to manage money. Not much of a hope of that, of course, but one can dream.

I'm starting to hate this gas price vs bottled water comparison.

You have a choice to buy or not buy bottled water.

Plus only crack heads actually buy much bottle water, especially at retail prices. I can buy a gallon of it at walmart for $.55 or something. Find me gas at that price

The price of gas usually doesn't bother me too much until it's passed down to the consumer via higher prices for items that need to be delivered interstate via Trucks. Just wait to see how much Produce will cost those who don't live in states that have a lot of farms that produces it.

So very very true. During the summer, at the pizzeria I worked at, we had to raise prices on everything. This was because some goods were literally doubling or tripling in price because of transportation costs.

People are worried about how much more its going to cost them to get to and from work, but when theres an increase across the board of everything in the market because its so costly to transport goods, there's going to be a full scale riot.

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i think you will see more people hitting bikes who can. there are some similarities. when forced by higher prices we will compromise. already people are trading in their SUVs and new car buyers are checking the MPG more carefully.

Regardless, Red Dawn makes a good point. My direct cost for gasoline won't have as much impact to my wallet as what companies will charge for shipping...such as produce.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i have a friend in Amsterdam and gas there is $5/gal. most people don't own cars for that reason. they use bikes to get around. he scoffs at our complaints about gas prices.

While this is true, the entire country of Holland is about 3/4 the size of Ohio, probably smaller. Due to their larger population density, they have adapted to better means of transit. You'll see similar situations in large cities such as New York, where it's common for people to NOT own cars. The fact remains that it's impractical for many of us to not own cars.

Aside from this, I agree completely that we shouldn't argue about the price of fuel when our prices are so much lower.

 

[StageLeft]

The price of gas usually doesn't bother me too much until it's passed down to the consumer via higher prices for items that need to be delivered interstate via Trucks. Just wait to see how much Produce will cost those who don't live in states that have a lot of farms that produces it.

Oh, it will filter down alright, but it won't be that bad. Even if gas doubled, and suddenly shipping products literally cost double, it's not like consumer prices will double, as shipping represents a small percentage of the product. Of course that depends on what it is. A PSP won't go up much, but the stones you ordered for your lawn will cost a lot more

i think you will see more people hitting bikes who can. there are some similarities. when forced by higher prices we will compromise. already people are trading in their SUVs and new car buyers are checking the MPG more carefully.

Yeah, but for many of us there are limits to compromise. When I used to walk to work it didn't affect me, besides any consumer prices, what gas cost. It could be $50/gallon and I didn't care. Europeans say their $5/gallon is high, so stop complaining, but many have options that many americans don't have, like walking to work or cycling around, or taking public transit. If a guy in London pays $5/gallon but goes through 300/year, whereas I'm paying $2.50 but cranking through 1700 (which I do), it hurts me a lot more!

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

The price of gas usually doesn't bother me too much until it's passed down to the consumer via higher prices for items that need to be delivered interstate via Trucks. Just wait to see how much Produce will cost those who don't live in states that have a lot of farms that produces it.

Oh, it will filter down alright, but it won't be that bad. Even if gas doubled, and suddenly shipping products literally cost double, it's not like consumer prices will double, as shipping represents a small percentage of the product. Of course that depends on what it is. A PSP won't go up much, but the stones you ordered for your lawn will cost a lot more

i think you will see more people hitting bikes who can. there are some similarities. when forced by higher prices we will compromise. already people are trading in their SUVs and new car buyers are checking the MPG more carefully.

Yeah, but for many of us there are limits to compromise. When I used to walk to work it didn't affect me, besides any consumer prices, what gas cost. It could be $50/gallon and I didn't care. Europeans say their $5/gallon is high, so stop complaining, but many have options that many americans don't have, like walking to work or cycling around, or taking public transit. If a guy in London pays $5/gallon but goes through 300/year, whereas I'm paying $2.50 but cranking through 1700 (which I do), it hurts me a lot more!

true Skoorb, true!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

The price of gas usually doesn't bother me too much until it's passed down to the consumer via higher prices for items that need to be delivered interstate via Trucks. Just wait to see how much Produce will cost those who don't live in states that have a lot of farms that produces it.

Oh, it will filter down alright, but it won't be that bad. Even if gas doubled, and suddenly shipping products literally cost double, it's not like consumer prices will double, as shipping represents a small percentage of the product. Of course that depends on what it is. A PSP won't go up much, but the stones you ordered for your lawn will cost a lot more

Fsck that sh!t, I'm talking about everyday staples like Fruit and Vegetables. It definitely will raise the price dramatically. Maybe not in California or Florida but in places that have to have it trucked in.

 

[sharkeeper]

Things will start to go bad if bunker diesel goes over $300 per tonne.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well, as so often is the case, the whining can be deferred to stupidity. People are dumb, and they complain whenever they can about anything they can.

Actually I complain a lot, but I like these raised gas prices, because they just may educate the public a little bit on what they have, what is finite, and how to manage money. Not much of a hope of that, of course, but one can dream.

I'm starting to hate this gas price vs bottled water comparison.

You have a choice to buy or not buy bottled water.

Plus only crack heads actually buy much bottle water, especially at retail prices. I can buy a gallon of it at walmart for $.55 or something. Find me gas at that price

The price of gas usually doesn't bother me too much until it's passed down to the consumer via higher prices for items that need to be delivered interstate via Trucks. Just wait to see how much Produce will cost those who don't live in states that have a lot of farms that produces it.

Yeah Red, but that is how simple economics works. The TOO cheap energy prices over the last decade or so have kept prices low while incomes have risen and now it is time for things to readjust....the problem is when it happens rather rapidly people freak out.

 

[broon]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Fsck that sh!t, I'm talking about everyday staples like Fruit and Vegetables. It definitely will raise the price dramatically. Maybe not in California or Florida but in places that have to have it trucked in.

Everything will go up. Wheat products for the coasts, citrus products for the midwest. Imported products for everyone. That $500 "Delivery fee" for new cars will go up. Airline tickets...the list goes on.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well, as so often is the case, the whining can be deferred to stupidity. People are dumb, and they complain whenever they can about anything they can.

Actually I complain a lot, but I like these raised gas prices, because they just may educate the public a little bit on what they have, what is finite, and how to manage money. Not much of a hope of that, of course, but one can dream.

I'm starting to hate this gas price vs bottled water comparison.

You have a choice to buy or not buy bottled water.

Plus only crack heads actually buy much bottle water, especially at retail prices. I can buy a gallon of it at walmart for $.55 or something. Find me gas at that price

The price of gas usually doesn't bother me too much until it's passed down to the consumer via higher prices for items that need to be delivered interstate via Trucks. Just wait to see how much Produce will cost those who don't live in states that have a lot of farms that produces it.

Yeah Red, but that is how simple economics works. The TOO cheap energy prices over the last decade or so have kept prices low while incomes have risen and now it is time for things to readjust....the problem is when it happens rather rapidly people freak out.

What ever, I just stated that is when the price of fuel starts to bother me. Another term for it is inflation!

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: Fausto
Hmm....I just agreed with a Ronstang post. Time to kill myself.

Line forms here.

 

[Vic]

Sudden increases in energy prices bring high inflation. High inflation causes a recession. Your argument was completely illogical.

 

[rudder]

Well when I was a kid, we didn't have gas. I walked 20 miles to school each way inthe snow without shoes. Stop yer belly aching.

 

[freegeeks]

Yeah, but for many of us there are limits to compromise. When I used to walk to work it didn't affect me, besides any consumer prices, what gas cost. It could be $50/gallon and I didn't care. Europeans say their $5/gallon is high, so stop complaining, but many have options that many americans don't have, like walking to work or cycling around, or taking public transit. If a guy in London pays $5/gallon but goes through 300/year, whereas I'm paying $2.50 but cranking through 1700 (which I do), it hurts me a lot more!

the average commute in Europe and the USA is more or less the same

USA commute

Euro commute

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Fsck that sh!t, I'm talking about everyday staples like Fruit and Vegetables. It definitely will raise the price dramatically. Maybe not in California or Florida but in places that have to have it trucked in.

Everything will go up. Wheat products for the coasts, citrus products for the midwest. Imported products for everyone. That $500 "Delivery fee" for new cars will go up. Airline tickets...the list goes on.

This is why the whole "adjusted for inflation" argument is bullsh!t. Fuel and energy prices are significant drivers of inflation.

 

[FoBoT]

i don't like the gas whining either

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: thereds
I'm starting to hate this gas price vs bottled water comparison.

You have a choice to buy or not buy bottled water.

No kidding, only stupid yuppy douchebags buy bottled water (imho ).
If you buy bottled water you deserve to be robbed, be it the bottling companies or the oil companies.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Yeah, but for many of us there are limits to compromise. When I used to walk to work it didn't affect me, besides any consumer prices, what gas cost. It could be $50/gallon and I didn't care. Europeans say their $5/gallon is high, so stop complaining, but many have options that many americans don't have, like walking to work or cycling around, or taking public transit. If a guy in London pays $5/gallon but goes through 300/year, whereas I'm paying $2.50 but cranking through 1700 (which I do), it hurts me a lot more!

the average commute in Europe and the USA is more or less the same

USA commute

Euro commute

High gas prices hurt those who do a lot of miles, but a disproportionate amount of populations in western europe are able to walk or bike or take public transport.

with 28% of people in Cambridge cycling to work

I mean golly, I'd be shocked if even one out of 500 people in Birmingham, AL cycle to work

 

[CraigRT]

the prices suck!