To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe

hevnsnt

Lifer
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As some of you may know (or may not) my family has been through some rough times. We lost both my Mother and my Grandma on Christmas '01 in 2 totally seperate and surprising incidents. I am 28 (now) and at the time was dating a very supportive and awesome girl. (who I then married of course) My brother who is 23 (now) is a music major and has always messed around with pot and stuff, but it was never a big deal. That is until christmas 01.

He started smoking that sh!t like crazy, messing up his mind & soul. He tried more and more of different sh!t until one day he was so fvcked up he went crazy and had mass delusions that people were after him and our family. On the way to the hospital he through his cell phone, and any other electronics that he had out the window because he believed that is how the "terrorists" were watching him.

My brother is a genious. He is honestly the smartest musician I have ever known. He can pick up any instrument and have it down to a point in a few hours. In fact he has taken over peoples places in an orchastra with an instument that he had played for the first time that day. He has been in countless newspapers, orchestras, offered many full-ride scholorships etc..

So fast-forward one year after he checked himself in. He came out clean, moved in with my dad for a year to remove himself from the old crowd. He would come and visit and you could tell he was so clean cut again, finally he was back to his old self.

He has always been a free spirit, going to obsure places to learn cultural influences of music from some awesome places. He has gone to africa twice to learn african beats, and currently he is in Trinidad Tobago to learn caribbian beats.

Well FVCKING POT SUCKED HIM BACK IN

Read these two emails I recieved from him. ON THE SAME DAY.
Thanks,
This past weekend I have been living in the NOrthern Mountain Range of
Trinidad in the Jungle, working and learning from the Arawak and Oleah Tribes, rough
rough. But this experience will forever change how I view the world and land upon
which I live. Gunda Harewood (my tour guide) is building a house in La Feelit (what a
name). Since I work for free, she uses me. The lanscape surfices all things,
heart, mind, and even soul if you don't watch yourself. Please send a prayer for me, I
am safe, but doing cultural "research" observation. If you don't believe in
yourself and God, you could go lost easily up there in Space as they call at home.
Real bushmen, with a little city flavor, story tellers, african mystics, herbalist, god
seekers, peacefull until met with natural resistance, bounty hunters! The bicycle
will be back by Wednesday, city life you would get locked up for it, the jungle
they would just lash you! I read the Koran for the first time this weekend, strong and
powerfull book, though I know in my heart I pray to my mother, Not a man.
Mother Earth they call it, our heavinly father.

Thanks and Health,
your son
[my brother]

Wow oh wow what a relaxed day next to the internet cafe. I have been
trying to fix and update Gunda's computer for her all day after getting
back my bike for the last time, this morning at the woodbrook police
station, the problam is not that I am too trusting, just that I don't
sometimes see. Nice uh, living well in time is nice. Keep one rope in
one hand and the next in the other, like sticks. Look up and try to fix
one on one and the other on the other, the stars. Watch and Listen to
what you can not physically do, I have seen skwinted pictures, I love
life.


After these emails, my dad called him, and asked him if he is back on drugs. Well if you took the time to read his emails, you can take a wild guess, yes he is. He complained to my dad that his heart is always racing, and I am concerned about my brothers health.

I couldn't handle losing my brother, he is the last family I have left.

So everytime you come in here talking about pot and I get pissed off, here is why. I can't stand watching idle why he (and you) kill yourselves.

[cliff notes]
Don't do drugs

My brother is
 

Shockwave

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Sep 16, 2000
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Dude, I aint tryin to rag on you, I somewhat feel the same way (I personally dont do it, but for others, well, its your call)
But man, pot doesnt mess someone up that bad. I'll wager money he has a bigger problem on his hands. You sure he wasnt involved in other drugs, most likely X or powders?
 

Demon-Xanth

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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I used to not care, but after my best friend through school decided to dedicate his life to killing brain cells as a drunk pothead. We kinda seperated. He didn't want to do anything other than drink and smoke pot, and I got tired of hanging around drunk potheads. (being sober/clean around people that aren't gets old fast)
 

hevnsnt

Lifer
Mar 18, 2000
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Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Dude, I aint tryin to rag on you, I somewhat feel the same way (I personally dont do it, but for others, well, its your call)
But man, pot doesnt mess someone up that bad. I'll wager money he has a bigger problem on his hands. You sure he wasnt involved in other drugs, most likely X or powders?

Or he's just turning to pot to get away from some other problems.
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
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What does this have to do with pot? What drugs is your brother taking?

He doesn't even sound like he's in trouble at all, he sounds like he's having fun getting stoned with the locals in Trinidad.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..
Translation:
Your brother is an idiot and you're blaming it on something else.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..

ok, I figured as much. I think your putting your anger on the wrong drug man.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Blah blah blah

Your thread title/summary alone tells me you're the one that's retarded.

EDIT: Well anyone who thinks it's totally safe is dumb. I highly doubt all of your brother's problems are from weed though. Cannabis isn't for everyone, especially people with mental problems to begin with.
 

Darkstar757

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Feb 1, 2003
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dude its soo not funny your brother is on drungs and I hope you are able to help him

On the OTHER HAND MY god im at work and that line about ropes and sticks had me crying. GOSH that was too funny.
 

cw42

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reminds me of the people that blame video games for kids going to school with guns and shooting each other.
 

hevnsnt

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Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..
Translation:
Your brother is an idiot and you're blaming it on something else.

Yes, my brother is an idiot, however I know where I feel the blame should be.
 

Kelvrick

Lifer
Feb 14, 2001
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Eh, I don't do pot or ever will, but I know tons of people who do it and have been doing it and are just fine. They take a drag maybe once every month or so. Whenever we're at a gathering, a group of them will seperate and sit apart for maybe 10-20 minutes to do their thing, then come join us again. Your brother might be a genius with musical instruments but hey, he fvcked up enough to get addicted to sh1t worse then pot huh?

Sorry, but its his own fault.
 

hevnsnt

Lifer
Mar 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Darkstar757
dude its soo not funny your brother is on drungs and I hope you are able to help him

On the OTHER HAND MY god im at work and that line about ropes and sticks had me crying. GOSH that was too funny.

lol... Its ok, I died laughing at that too.. Then I realized it wasn't funny
 

PowderBB3D

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I agree with you wholeheartedly. Drugs are terrible devices used to corrupt and destroy ourselves. I have never done drugs or smoked a cigarette and never will.

I pray for your brother.
 

Bryophyte

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Have you considered that he might be a self-medicating schizophrenic? Maybe the drugs are a symptom, not a cause of his problems. I had a friend who was a fairly high functioning schizo.
 

yukichigai

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People like to look at pot as the cause of problems. It isn't; pot is merely the symptom in those cases. Chances are good your brother would find some other way to destroy himself if he couldn't get marijuana.

Pot is still a helluva lot less dangerous than most other drugs. True, it can be used to excess as your brother has shown, but thankfully the physical effects are (from what studies have shown) almost all temporary.

Your brother needs counseling(sp?). He needs a shrink. Detox is just the first step. Don't demonize pot just because it's the method he's using to further his mental escape. Be thankful he chose that over Extacy, LSD, Alcohol or Heroin.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..
Translation:
Your brother is an idiot and you're blaming it on something else.

Yes, my brother is an idiot, however I know where I feel the blame should be.

It shouldnt be on pot. Trust me on this, if you knew the actual number of people who get high, you'd drop a load in your pants.
 

KillaBong

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A racing heart is normal when smoking pot (not to say it's not bad).

Is he using any other types of drugs? It shouldn't make you think terrorists are chasing you to smoke pot.

Sounds like he isn't doing well when drugs get involved, so good luck getting him to stop.
 

vi edit

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It's not the pot. It's the high mountain elevation.

 

hevnsnt

Lifer
Mar 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..
Translation:
Your brother is an idiot and you're blaming it on something else.

Yes, my brother is an idiot, however I know where I feel the blame should be.

It shouldnt be on pot. Trust me on this, if you knew the actual number of people who get high, you'd drop a load in your pants.


Well, the thing is I did my share of weed in Highschool.. The problem is, it does lead to fvcking (some) peoples lives up. There is a reason it is illegal. (and yes I know that the next argument coming is alchohol)

I know its not the pot that is fvcking him up so much.. However it is the pot that leads him to other things.
 
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