To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe

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Nov 7, 2000
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your brother is crazy. crazy people do drugs. crazy people do other stupid stuff. its comforting for people to see the connection and be able to say, ooooh its gotta be the drugs. its a nice scapegoat that has been demonized for a long time. sadly, drug use is just another SYMPTOM of a different problem. drugs ARE bad and are they unhealthy. they dont make you crazy or ruin your life. you do that on your own.
 

skace

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Jan 23, 2001
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To anyone who thinks alcohol is safe:

<insert rant about a terrible alcoholic who beats his kids and wife and ends up killing his family as well as another family in a horrible accident>
 

geno

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Well FVCKING POT SUCKED HIM BACK IN
No, your brother sucked himself back in. How can you blame the substance to which he's addicted/accustomed to and not your brother himself?

Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..
Once again, your brother got the ball rolling. People are responsible for their own actions, don't take the cheap way out by blaming the substance. It sounds a lot like the parents who say that Doom was the cause of the Columbine shootings People need to learn how to place responsibility in the hands of people, not take the cheap way out and blame drugs/games/movies etc...
 

pulse8

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May 3, 2000
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He's moving onto other drugs probably because pot didn't work for whatever he was trying to do.

Pot isn't to blame. Your brother has other mental issues that are causing this.


Regardless, I'm sorry to hear about the situation.
 
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Well, I know for a fact that other drugs are being used.. However Pot always starts the ball rolling..
Translation:
Your brother is an idiot and you're blaming it on something else.

Yes, my brother is an idiot, however I know where I feel the blame should be.

It shouldnt be on pot. Trust me on this, if you knew the actual number of people who get high, you'd drop a load in your pants.

So in other words:

"Poop. Thats all I have to say."



- M4H
 

yukichigai

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Have you considered that he might be a self-medicating schizophrenic? Maybe the drugs are a symptom, not a cause of his problems. I had a friend who was a fairly high functioning schizo.
Yeah, I knew a guy (actually, I later found out "he" was a she ) who was kinda like that. High functioning Schizo, very artistic, but prone to bouts of... well... schizophrenia. Weird, off the wall reasoning, hallucinations, etc. Smoking pot made him calm, but it did little to stop the other effects of the disease. Unfortunately the sad truth with Schizophrenics is that the medications often times make them feel worse than the disease does. Thorazine is notorious for not only killing sexual urges, but making those on it feel uncomfortable when what would normally be arousing stimuli are introduced. It's a sad, vicious cycle.

Again OP, your brother needs therapy. During and after detox. Pot isn't the only thing to blame here.
 
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My brother is a genious. He is honestly the smartest musician I have ever known. He can pick up any instrument and have it down to a point in a few hours. In fact he has taken over peoples places in an orchastra with an instument that he had played for the first time that day. He has been in countless newspapers, orchestras, offered many full-ride scholorships etc..
I think being a GENIOUS is really just another form of mental retardation. Supertardation? You guys know what I am talking about, people so smart they seem dumb? Also, some of the worlds brightest people have been plagued by mental problems. Im sorry for your brother, but I think you are trying to assign blame when there probably isn't anything culpable.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Have you considered that he might be a self-medicating schizophrenic? Maybe the drugs are a symptom, not a cause of his problems. I had a friend who was a fairly high functioning schizo.

Interesting point. Males in their early 20's are the most prone for schizophrenia onset.
 

hevnsnt

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Just for the record..

My title did not say: Anyone who smokes pot is fvcking retarded

It says To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe....

It is not safe.
 

gigapet

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ok after rereading that a couple of tiems i've come to the conclusion that yes your brother is on drugs......

however contrary to your belief I severely doubt the drugs he is on are pot/hash etc.

It sounds like he is on some psychedelics and hallucinogens......lsd, mushrooms etc...

If he is hanging out with tribes perhaps they have given him some hallucinogens that they use for spiritual purposes....did you ever think of that?
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Just for the record..

My title did not say: Anyone who smokes pot is fvcking retarded

It says To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe....

It is not safe.

neither is ignorance perhaps we should outlaw that.
 

Triumph

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Your brother is abnormal to begin with, it isn't the pot. You say he is incredibly talented with music. That suggests right there that in some manner, he is imbalanced. It happens with most people who show extraordinary ability in any one area. Research any recognized genius and you'll learn how imbalanced they truly were. Newton, Einstein, Mozart, Pollack, Da Vinci, etc. None of them were normal, so to speak. Your blame is really misplaced.

I don't smoke weed, btw.
 
Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Just for the record..

My title did not say: Anyone who smokes pot is fvcking retarded

It says To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe....

It is not safe.

"To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe You are FVCKING RETARDED."

I'll make the huge leap in assumption here that most people who smoke pot also think it's safe (at least by comparision to what you're inking out here).

- M4H
 

JoeKing

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While I feel sorry for your brother I think you should realize that he is most likely abusing other harder drugs and these are probably exasperating a mental condition that he already has. it sounds to me like he is self medicating, has he been on any prescribed medications? If he is as brilliant as you claim then you should remeber a saying "There is a fine line between genius and instanity". I think it's a shame that you're using his condition to incite a flamewar.
 

kami333

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Just for the record..

My title did not say: Anyone who smokes pot is fvcking retarded

It says To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe....

It is not safe.



So what has he done that isn't safe, that can be directly connected to pot?
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Alcohol and tobacco kill FAR more people in a year than pot ever could. Yet, the government says pot is more evil.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: hevnsnt
Just for the record..

My title did not say: Anyone who smokes pot is fvcking retarded

It says To Anyone who thinks Pot is safe....

It is not safe.

For a majority of the population peanut butter isn't harmful. But to that remaining small percentage it's deadly. Same thing with antibiotics, shellfish, soap, and red dye #1.
 

SP33Demon

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If pot was as "unsafe" as you proclaim, they wouldn't use it for medicinal purposes. Your bro probably dropped 'cid, had a bad trip, and never came back. His behavior sounds more like he was tripping than high...
 

preslove

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Sep 10, 2003
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Your brother has a substance abuse problem. This means he takes drugs that others use safely and ABUSES them, fvcking him up and more than likely triggering some latent psychological condition. Some people use drugs safely and some don't. But you are, apparently, too dimwitted to understand this.
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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some people get addicted to everquest and it ruins their lives.

video games are the evil
 

hevnsnt

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Originally posted by: JoeKing
While I feel sorry for your brother I think you should realize that he is most likely abusing other harder drugs and these are probably exasperating a mental condition that he already has. it sounds to me like he is self medicating, has he been on any prescribed medications? If he is as brilliant as you claim then you should remeber a saying "There is a fine line between genius and instanity". I think it's a shame that you're using his condition to incite a flamewar.

I am truely sorry if you feel I am using his condition to incite a flamewar, that was not my intention.

I just get so pissed off about it.
 

Wahsapa

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chances are because your brother is sooooo 'musically' taletned hes ALREADY crazy, pot didnt cause his problems, his problems were there to begin with.

yes pots a gateway drug. pot's also a silly name for bud.

people have problems, some people SHOULD NOT DO DRUGS. they just dont have a strong enough mind to understand the concepts of altered consciouness. its not for EVERYBODY. iv gone thru my far share of substances and i came out fine, im not worse off then i was, and im actually some what better because it gave me some things to think about. there IS A PURPOSE for some drugs.

marijuana has real world medical applitcations. its not addicting physically by any means. yes alcohol is worse, and its legal. whats legal and what is illegal is not the issue, laws have gotten out of hand, thats obvious. if you cant tell some laws shouldnt even exsist well then... there probably isnt hope for you.
 
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