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cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
if you think marijuana cant kill you, you are an uninformed person plain and simple. Marijuana screws up all kinds of crap in your body, you would be very ignorant to think otherwise. News flash marijuana contains THC, and about 90% of various POISONS. Do you know what poison does or is meant to do?

KILL.

And it takes about 100 joints to overdose, not 500. and yes people have placed bets on how many joints they can smoke in a day and have died.

Car driving can kill you, but you have a FAR higher chance of not getting in a crash if nobody on the road is high or drunk.
The MAJORITY of all car crashes are caused by alcohol, if people werent drunk, they probably would not have crashed at all...

Who the heck cares how many chemicals are in coffee, it is the fact that none of coffee's chemicals can really harm you except maybe a caffeine overdose.

Is it just me,
or are the people that smoke marijuana always defending it and saying how safe it is :roll:

Wow! I don't want to make this personal, but you are the poster child for a typical "I don't want to think for myself, just tell me what is right and wrong and what I should do" sheep. AIR is poisonous. Too much WATER can kill you.

Why are you so hung up on drunk driving and DUI? NO ONE here is condoning that behaviour. I think we all agree that SHOULD be illegal. But it is not the FAULT of the substance - it is the FAULT of the person who abused it. Your logic would make it illegal to own a gun, knife, sharp stick, teeth, hands, etc..

You blame PEOPLE for doing wrong things, not inanimate objects. Learn to take some responsibility for your actions. Stop looking for a scape-goat.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Dude, I aint tryin to rag on you, I somewhat feel the same way (I personally dont do it, but for others, well, its your call)
But man, pot doesnt mess someone up that bad. I'll wager money he has a bigger problem on his hands. You sure he wasnt involved in other drugs, most likely X or powders?

id have to agree. i dont want to get too personal, but it seems like if not heavier drugs, perhaps simple mental instability is somewhat responsible...
 

yukichigai

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
if you think marijuana cant kill you, you are an uninformed person plain and simple. Marijuana screws up all kinds of crap in your body, you would be very ignorant to think otherwise. News flash marijuana contains THC, and about 90% of various POISONS. Do you know what poison does or is meant to do?

KILL.


And it takes about 100 joints to overdose, not 500. and yes people have placed bets on how many joints they can smoke in a day and have died.

Car driving can kill you, but you have a FAR higher chance of not getting in a crash if nobody on the road is high or drunk.
The MAJORITY of all car crashes are caused by alcohol, if people werent drunk, they probably would not have crashed at all...

Who the heck cares how many chemicals are in coffee, it is the fact that none of coffee's chemicals can really harm you except maybe a caffeine overdose.


Is it just me,
or are the people that smoke marijuana always defending it and saying how safe it is :roll:
I'd just like to jump on the "prove this guy is a flamebait troll" bandwagon here....

1) The term "poison" is reserved for something which can be harmful, typically at low doses. (but not exclusively) It does not have to kill to be a poison. So you're vaguely right about marijuana being a poison, except for the part where there's no evidence that THC can cause any permanent physical damage. Smoke inhalation is another matter. By the way, Alcohol is a poison. Doesn't matter, but I thought I'd point that out.

2) Read this a few times, 'cause apparantly you missed the announcement. There has yet to be a study done that shows you can overdose on marijuana. Several have been done, but not a single one has ever found a point at which THC levels in the bloodstream become toxic. Ever. Even tobacco-funded studies. 100 joints? Unless you managed to smoke all of them in the span of 5 minutes I doubt it'd come anywhere close to the overdose threshold for THC, if an attainable one exists.

3) Nobody has "placed bets on how many joints they could smoke in a day and died." Unless you count placing a bet like that, smoking upwards of a dozen in a one hour period, then having a Mind-that-bus-What-bus?-*SPLAT* moment. I mean have you even heard of Amsterdam? What do you think people do in coffee shops all day, drink coffee?

4) What's your point with the drunk driving example? That people shouldn't drive drunk or high? Very true, but that's not a defining factor for legalizing/demonizing a substance. People shouldn't drive on NyQuil, but that's still legal. Why? Because they tell people not to.

5) Coffee contains, among other things, Tannic Acid and other, related Tannens(sp?). In high amounts those substances have noticable physical effects, and in some people can cause severe reactions and even death.

So in summation, you're a re-re. *turns off overhead projector, clicks on lights* Questions?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: dguy6789
if you think marijuana cant kill you, you are an uninformed person plain and simple. Marijuana screws up all kinds of crap in your body, you would be very ignorant to think otherwise. News flash marijuana contains THC, and about 90% of various POISONS. Do you know what poison does or is meant to do?

KILL.


And it takes about 100 joints to overdose, not 500. and yes people have placed bets on how many joints they can smoke in a day and have died.

Car driving can kill you, but you have a FAR higher chance of not getting in a crash if nobody on the road is high or drunk.
The MAJORITY of all car crashes are caused by alcohol, if people werent drunk, they probably would not have crashed at all...

Who the heck cares how many chemicals are in coffee, it is the fact that none of coffee's chemicals can really harm you except maybe a caffeine overdose.


Is it just me,
or are the people that smoke marijuana always defending it and saying how safe it is :roll:
I'd just like to jump on the "prove this guy is a flamebait troll" bandwagon here....

1) The term "poison" is reserved for something which can be harmful, typically at low doses. (but not exclusively) It does not have to kill to be a poison. So you're vaguely right about marijuana being a poison, except for the part where there's no evidence that THC can cause any permanent physical damage. Smoke inhalation is another matter. By the way, Alcohol is a poison. Doesn't matter, but I thought I'd point that out.

2) Read this a few times, 'cause apparantly you missed the announcement. There has yet to be a study done that shows you can overdose on marijuana. Several have been done, but not a single one has ever found a point at which THC levels in the bloodstream become toxic. Ever. Even tobacco-funded studies. 100 joints? Unless you managed to smoke all of them in the span of 5 minutes I doubt it'd come anywhere close to the overdose threshold for THC, if an attainable one exists.

3) Nobody has "placed bets on how many joints they could smoke in a day and died." Unless you count placing a bet like that, smoking upwards of a dozen in a one hour period, then having a Mind-that-bus-What-bus?-*SPLAT* moment. I mean have you even heard of Amsterdam? What do you think people do in coffee shops all day, drink coffee?

4) What's your point with the drunk driving example? That people shouldn't drive drunk or high? Very true, but that's not a defining factor for legalizing/demonizing a substance. People shouldn't drive on NyQuil, but that's still legal. Why? Because they tell people not to.

5) Coffee contains, among other things, Tannic Acid and other, related Tannens(sp?). In high amounts those substances have noticable physical effects, and in some people can cause severe reactions and even death.

So in summation, you're a re-re. *turns off overhead projector, clicks on lights* Questions?

*stands up and applauds*
I especially like the summation
 

oldman420

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pot is bad for you beer is high in carbs alcohol rots the liver cigs kill the lungs seems like altering conciousness is a dangerouse thing.
my recomendation is to link em all to sadam or terrorism and then let goerge bush take it from there. we are turning the corner
 

cKGunslinger

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Must ... let.. this.. thread... die!

Originally posted by: dguy6789

if you think marijuana cant kill you, you are an uninformed person plain and simple. Marijuana screws up all kinds of crap in your body, you would be very ignorant to think otherwise. News flash marijuana contains THC, and about 90% of various POISONS. Do you know what poison does or is meant to do? KILL.
Wow! Tobacco is poisonous. Alcohol is poisonous. Soft drinks are poisonous. Coffee is poisonous. Air is poisonous. Water can be poisonous. BAN IT ALL!

And it takes about 100 joints to overdose, not 500. and yes people have placed bets on how many joints they can smoke in a day and have died.
How nice of you to back up this absurd piece of anecdotal evidence with a link to a single news story. Oh wait, you didn't. I guess I can do the same. "Yes, some people have placed bets on how long they can hold thier breath underwater and have died!" BAN SWIMMING! "Yes, some people have placed bets on how many post they can get on ATOT in a single day, and have died!" BAN ATOT!

Car driving can kill you, but you have a FAR higher chance of not getting in a crash if nobody on the road is high or drunk.
Wow.. that.. is.. true. Also, you have a far higher chance of not getting in a crash if nobody on the road is blind or deaf. BAN BLINDNESS AND DEAFNESS!

The MAJORITY of all car crashes are caused by alcohol, if people werent drunk, they probably would not have crashed at all...
Again, nice bit of pure BS you pulled there. A simple google search will show that this is untrue. It's not even in the top 10. Cell phone usage and playing with the radio cause many more accidents. BAN CELL PHONES AND RADIOS!

Who the heck cares how many chemicals are in coffee, it is the fact that none of coffee's chemicals can really harm you except maybe a caffeine overdose.
Wrong again. Caffeine, the active ingredient, a poisonous alkaloid, causes kidney stones and kidney damage. Coffee is a diuretic, causing excretion of the body's minerals and vitamins through the bladder. Coffee causes adrenal fatigue, (hence drying up all hormones in the body, promoting aging). It causes irreversible heart disease with arrthymias, tachycardia, later requiring pacemakers. It causes birth defects. It causes hypertension, strokes, higher cholesterol & triglyceride blood levels. Coffee is a carcinogen. It's a BURNT bean. BAN COFFEE!

Is it just me, or are the people that smoke marijuana always defending it and saying how safe it is :roll:
Is it just me, or is today's youth longing to just wake up and let the government tell them EXACTLY how to live and be good, productive members of society. It scares me a bit. Strike that - it scares me a lot.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
I'd just like to jump on the "prove this guy is a flamebait troll" bandwagon here....

<snip - yukichigai totally laying into that moron>

So in summation, you're a re-re. *turns off overhead projector, clicks on lights* Questions?

:thumbsup:
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: yukichigai
I'd just like to jump on the "prove this guy is a flamebait troll" bandwagon here....

<snip - yukichigai totally laying into that moron>

So in summation, you're a re-re. *turns off overhead projector, clicks on lights* Questions?

:thumbsup:
 

Gurck

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Damn, people, you're supposed to feed a Right-winger, starve a Troll - not the other way around
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Damn, people, you're supposed to feed a Right-winger, starve a Troll - not the other way around

But I'm a right-winger.. so I'm trying to feed myself. ;-)
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Have you considered that he might be a self-medicating schizophrenic? Maybe the drugs are a symptom, not a cause of his problems. I had a friend who was a fairly high functioning schizo.
Yeah, I knew a guy (actually, I later found out "he" was a she ) who was kinda like that. High functioning Schizo, very artistic, but prone to bouts of... well... schizophrenia. Weird, off the wall reasoning, hallucinations, etc. Smoking pot made him calm, but it did little to stop the other effects of the disease. Unfortunately the sad truth with Schizophrenics is that the medications often times make them feel worse than the disease does. Thorazine is notorious for not only killing sexual urges, but making those on it feel uncomfortable when what would normally be arousing stimuli are introduced. It's a sad, vicious cycle.

Again OP, your brother needs therapy. During and after detox. Pot isn't the only thing to blame here.

I've only read up to this post... so sorry if it's a rehash!

I know for a fact that people can be schizo but not really develop it until later in life, even around 20 or so. They might be completely normal and then just seem to snap. Possibly this drug thing he's gotten into is a result of that on top of your recent family tragedies.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Have you considered that he might be a self-medicating schizophrenic? Maybe the drugs are a symptom, not a cause of his problems. I had a friend who was a fairly high functioning schizo.
Yeah, I knew a guy (actually, I later found out "he" was a she ) who was kinda like that. High functioning Schizo, very artistic, but prone to bouts of... well... schizophrenia. Weird, off the wall reasoning, hallucinations, etc. Smoking pot made him calm, but it did little to stop the other effects of the disease. Unfortunately the sad truth with Schizophrenics is that the medications often times make them feel worse than the disease does. Thorazine is notorious for not only killing sexual urges, but making those on it feel uncomfortable when what would normally be arousing stimuli are introduced. It's a sad, vicious cycle.

Again OP, your brother needs therapy. During and after detox. Pot isn't the only thing to blame here.

I've only read up to this post... so sorry if it's a rehash!

I know for a fact that people can be schizo but not really develop it until later in life, even around 20 or so. They might be completely normal and then just seem to snap. Possibly this drug thing he's gotten into is a result of that on top of your recent family tragedies.

Yep, the onset of schizophrenia tends to occur in the late teens or early to mid 20s and it affects many more males than females. It can be mild, severe, or anything in between; not all (or even many at all) schizophrenics are what others would call "crazy".
 

dguy6789

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What im saying is, the MAJORITY of the population is too stupid to realize they are drunk, and they end up driving.

People are dieing everyday because of their own stuidity and others' stupidity. If the people had no access to alcohol, then they wouldnt have crashed in the first place.

The goverenment needs to take action because the people are too stupid to do it themselves. The people dont realize they cant drive well while drunk, the people dont realize they cant drive well while they are sleepy....


Let someone kill themself, but ill be damned if im gonna let someone elses lousy pos judgement get me in a car wreck or worse.

Getting caught drunk driving needs to be a mucvh larger penalty. Such as permanant suspension of liscense, or 15 years in prison minimum. People just dont get it through their heads.

Most people thinks THEY are different from everyone else and can drive just fine while drunk, these people are the biggest morons and cause of car related death there is.


Ok guys, if getting rid of alcohol and such isnt the answer then what is? If it is available, people will use it and drive drunk and die, pretty simple. What is your solution?
 

Wahsapa

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LET THIS DIE ALREADY

dguy your not adding any new or ground breaking ideas so just stop, this isnt about drunk driving.

and the majority of people DO know they arnt suppose to drive when they are drunk. have you ever been drunk? have you ever driven drunk? all drunk drivers KNOW they arnt suppose to drive. to think that getting drunk means you forget your drunk and that you cant comprehend that you shouldnt drive in that state is just... GOD DAMN IT STOP POSTING
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
What im saying is, the MAJORITY of the population is too stupid to realize they are drunk, and they end up driving.

People are dieing everyday because of their own stuidity and others' stupidity. If the people had no access to alcohol, then they wouldnt have crashed in the first place.

The goverenment needs to take action because the people are too stupid to do it themselves. The people dont realize they cant drive well while drunk, the people dont realize they cant drive well while they are sleepy....

Let someone kill themself, but ill be damned if im gonna let someone elses lousy pos judgement get me in a car wreck or worse.

Getting caught drunk driving needs to be a mucvh larger penalty. Such as permanant suspension of liscense, or 15 years in prison minimum. People just dont get it through their heads.

Most people thinks THEY are different from everyone else and can drive just fine while drunk, these people are the biggest morons and cause of car related death there is.

Ok guys, if getting rid of alcohol and such isnt the answer then what is? If it is available, people will use it and drive drunk and die, pretty simple. What is your solution?
Why don't you quit trolling for a moment and ANSWER some of the responses you get. 100X more people are killed in car accidents due to someone talking on a cell phone than due to drunk driving. By your EXACT SAME LOGIC, the "government" should make cell phones illegal. Making it illegal to to drive with them isn't good enough - like you said above, "..if it is available, people will use it .." If they "had no access" to cell phones, thousands of people will still be alive today.

Where is your response to this? You don't have one. You are a troll with no interest in this topic, other than pissing people off. Right? Either respond or go away.
 

dejacky

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I agree with the previous poster who mentioned your argument was the same as those who argue violent video games cause violence. This is false, just like Pot kills people. It doesn't. Here is another analogy:

Human takes a handgun and intentionally shoots someone to kill them.
Victim Human dies because of the gunshot.
Human shooter says "hey, it's not my fault...the Handgun shot him, NOT ME! Yes, The gun killed him!"

What this does not take into account is the fact that the person already wants to commit this harm. So, they just found a tool (gun in this case) to facilitate their INTENTIONS.

Marijuana/Canabis does not kill people. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.
Marijuana/Canabis does not harm people. PEOPLE HARM PEOPLE.

It's important to understand this because there have been well-documented instances where medicinal use of marijuana is vital. Your brother has issues that are causing him to harm himself...he's self destructive because he DOES have problems and he chooses to abuse himself via chemicals because of his problems. Solution? Your brother needs to find a way to SOLVE his problems instead of abusing himself, thus creating more problems.....like leading you to blame it all on a chemical that poses no threat.

one last thing. POT DID NOT SUCK HIM IN. HE SUCKED HIMSELF INTO HIS OWN "TRAP." i hope i don't need to prove the fallacy of your logic with that statement :roll:
 

yukichigai

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
<snip>

Getting caught drunk driving needs to be a mucvh larger penalty. Such as permanant suspension of liscense, or 15 years in prison minimum. People just dont get it through their heads.

<snip>

Ok guys, if getting rid of alcohol and such isnt the answer then what is? If it is available, people will use it and drive drunk and die, pretty simple. What is your solution?
You actually mentioned part of it: harsher sentences for drunk driving offences. In countries like England, where penalties for driving under the influence are pretty serious, the number of drunk drivers is minimal.

The other thing is to either make the age at which you can drink and the age at which you can drive the same, or make the drinking age lower than the driving age. All of the non-totalitarian countries where drunk driving is a minimal problem are set up like that. Something to do with kids getting all the "oh hey, let's drink like retards" motivations out of their systems before they're familiar enough with cars to feel comfortable driving under the influence. If pot were legalized it would have to be the same, or at least at age 18.

I mean think about it: you get your license, have 5 years to familiarize yourself with how to operate a motor vehicle, then get the chance to drink. Any thoughts of "well maybe I'm not good enough at driving to do this" are long gone by then.
 

dguy6789

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: dguy6789
What im saying is, the MAJORITY of the population is too stupid to realize they are drunk, and they end up driving.

People are dieing everyday because of their own stuidity and others' stupidity. If the people had no access to alcohol, then they wouldnt have crashed in the first place.

The goverenment needs to take action because the people are too stupid to do it themselves. The people dont realize they cant drive well while drunk, the people dont realize they cant drive well while they are sleepy....

Let someone kill themself, but ill be damned if im gonna let someone elses lousy pos judgement get me in a car wreck or worse.

Getting caught drunk driving needs to be a mucvh larger penalty. Such as permanant suspension of liscense, or 15 years in prison minimum. People just dont get it through their heads.

Most people thinks THEY are different from everyone else and can drive just fine while drunk, these people are the biggest morons and cause of car related death there is.

Ok guys, if getting rid of alcohol and such isnt the answer then what is? If it is available, people will use it and drive drunk and die, pretty simple. What is your solution?
Why don't you quit trolling for a moment and ANSWER some of the responses you get. 100X more people are killed in car accidents due to someone talking on a cell phone than due to drunk driving. By your EXACT SAME LOGIC, the "government" should make cell phones illegal. Making it illegal to to drive with them isn't good enough - like you said above, "..if it is available, people will use it .." If they "had no access" to cell phones, thousands of people will still be alive today.

Where is your response to this? You don't have one. You are a troll with no interest in this topic, other than pissing people off. Right? Either respond or go away.




Where do you get your statistics, last time i checked, around 40% of all car wrecks are due to alcohol, and about half of those alchol related wrecks end up with 1 or more death.


If people KNOW they cant drive when drunk WHY do they do it? They KNOW it is agaisnt the law, and they KNOW there is some serious penalties.

If we are to have alcohol and cell phones used reponsibly(hehe cell phones) what can the people do? If they are causing so much death, and people always say, oh well it doesnt affect me or the people around me so ill drive drunk with a cell phone.

If getting rid of the substance all together isnt the answer then WHAT is? No matter how high the penalty is, some people will always try to get away with it. What can we do then?
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
Originally posted by: Captain_Howdy
Um, a little while ago, they done a test and found out using marijuana for medical purposes(it has thc) causes far more harm then good. The thc it has helps the disease it is trying to fix, but the other many chemicals cause alot more harm then good. Now they use thc type pills called marinol i believe, not sure. But marijuana is not used anymore for medical purposes. and IMO, using drugs in the first place is stupid. Why drink beer anyway, they have sodas that taste way better, and are way better for you. Alcohol should be illegalized imo. Causes far too many deaths. I see no reason to start smoking pot, It is illegal, and can kill you plain and simple. Seems pretty stupid to me.

Driving a car can kill you plain and simple, should we make that illegal as well? Did you know there are more chemicals in a cup of coffee than marijuana? It seems pretty stupid to me that you are a sheep and just because someone tells you something is bad and makes it illegal then you automatically assume it is. Take Eli's advice and read LOTS at Erowid. There is enough info there on cannabis to keep you reading for a long time. By the way if you were referring to marijuana killing you by overdose I am afraid you are very mistaken. To overdose on THC you would have to smoke about 500 joints in one sitting. That is pretty hard to do.



if you think marijuana cant kill you, you are an uninformed person plain and simple. Marijuana screws up all kinds of crap in your body, you would be very ignorant to think otherwise. News flash marijuana contains THC, and about 90% of various POISONS. Do you know what poison does or is meant to do?

KILL.



And it takes about 100 joints to overdose, not 500. and yes people have placed bets on how many joints they can smoke in a day and have died.

Car driving can kill you, but you have a FAR higher chance of not getting in a crash if nobody on the road is high or drunk.
The MAJORITY of all car crashes are caused by alcohol, if people werent drunk, they probably would not have crashed at all...

Who the heck cares how many chemicals are in coffee, it is the fact that none of coffee's chemicals can really harm you except maybe a caffeine overdose.


Is it just me,
or are the people that smoke marijuana always defending it and saying how safe it is :roll:
hahahahahahahahahah...

*gasp*

aaaahhhhhhhahahahahaahahahahahah

That was a good one, thanks.

Anyway, I'd like you to find me one person in the entire history of mankind that has died as a direct result of cannabis intoxication.

Just one. That's all I ask. One. So simple...... yet so impossible to do!

Wow, your ignorance is astounding. It is not physically possible to overdose on THC. You would spontaneously fall over, asleep, before you fell over dead.. LOL..

If you could overdose on THC, there would be people dropping dead in The Netherlands every day. They fancy hashish there, and good hash is nearly 100% cannabinoids.

j00 = pwn3d
 

StageLeft

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Anybody who thinks that it's harmless is a moron. I would never say that; I just don't think it's any worse than booze. I do know one guy who basically buggared his future by turning into a burn out. He was a really smart guy and last I heard he was just at home. It's a shame because he was a smart guy, but in time his aspirations focused in on simply getting high. Booze ruins lives in its own way too.
 

dguy6789

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Originally posted by: Captain_Howdy
Um, a little while ago, they done a test and found out using marijuana for medical purposes(it has thc) causes far more harm then good. The thc it has helps the disease it is trying to fix, but the other many chemicals cause alot more harm then good. Now they use thc type pills called marinol i believe, not sure. But marijuana is not used anymore for medical purposes. and IMO, using drugs in the first place is stupid. Why drink beer anyway, they have sodas that taste way better, and are way better for you. Alcohol should be illegalized imo. Causes far too many deaths. I see no reason to start smoking pot, It is illegal, and can kill you plain and simple. Seems pretty stupid to me.

Driving a car can kill you plain and simple, should we make that illegal as well? Did you know there are more chemicals in a cup of coffee than marijuana? It seems pretty stupid to me that you are a sheep and just because someone tells you something is bad and makes it illegal then you automatically assume it is. Take Eli's advice and read LOTS at Erowid. There is enough info there on cannabis to keep you reading for a long time. By the way if you were referring to marijuana killing you by overdose I am afraid you are very mistaken. To overdose on THC you would have to smoke about 500 joints in one sitting. That is pretty hard to do.



if you think marijuana cant kill you, you are an uninformed person plain and simple. Marijuana screws up all kinds of crap in your body, you would be very ignorant to think otherwise. News flash marijuana contains THC, and about 90% of various POISONS. Do you know what poison does or is meant to do?

KILL.



And it takes about 100 joints to overdose, not 500. and yes people have placed bets on how many joints they can smoke in a day and have died.

Car driving can kill you, but you have a FAR higher chance of not getting in a crash if nobody on the road is high or drunk.
The MAJORITY of all car crashes are caused by alcohol, if people werent drunk, they probably would not have crashed at all...

Who the heck cares how many chemicals are in coffee, it is the fact that none of coffee's chemicals can really harm you except maybe a caffeine overdose.


Is it just me,
or are the people that smoke marijuana always defending it and saying how safe it is :roll:
hahahahahahahahahah...

*gasp*

aaaahhhhhhhahahahahaahahahahahah

That was a good one, thanks.

Anyway, I'd like you to find me one person in the entire history of mankind that has died as a direct result of cannabis intoxication.

Just one. That's all I ask. One. So simple...... yet so impossible to do!

Wow, your ignorance is astounding. It is not physically possible to overdose on THC. You would spontaneously fall over, asleep, before you fell over dead.. LOL..

If you could overdose on THC, there would be people dropping dead in The Netherlands every day. They fancy hashish there, and good hash is nearly 100% cannabinoids.

j00 = pwn3d



THC overdose is impossible, but last time i checked, it is not the only chemical in marijuana.Marijuna has other chemicals that screw up your lungs, granted marijuana cant kill you fast, but overtime it can cause certain organs to fail.
 

phpdog

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I started smoking pot when i was 14 .

It didnt do me physical harm but it totally messed up my life , i started just putting everything else including school to the back of the que and sitting around all day smoking weed .

For me it led to hard drugs but i think that was more to do with my environment and friends more than anything else.

Most people can smoke pot [ as do a LOT of my mates and relatives ] and have nuthing more than a few joints or a pipe at night . It really depends or your personality , and what your got going on in your life and around you .

I REALLY wish i didnt take it at least until id finished school , but thats life .

I cant say for sure if i hadent took that weed for the first time that i wouldnt have turned out a HERION addict on medication for the rest of my life , but the fact remains that it was , and it also was my 3 out of my other 5 friends first drug who are now dead [ but they died of herion] .

Basically i think it's a MAJOR risk for anyone wanting to experiment with ANY kind of drug as you dont know what kind of personality you will have with drugs , mine was an addictive personality and i paid the price for that.
 

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Originally posted by: dguy6789


THC overdose is impossible, but last time i checked, it is not the only chemical in marijuana.Marijuna has other chemicals that screw up your lungs, granted marijuana cant kill you fast, but overtime it can cause certain organs to fail.
Yes, certainly there are dozens and dozens of chemicals in marijuana, especially if you count the ones that are produced when you burn organic matter.

That is the only issue. There are no dangerous(deathly) chemicals in cannabis itself. When you burn any organic substance, all sorts of nasty byproducts are produced, like benzene.. mmmm.. benzene.

That's one of the reasons people use vaporizers. It heats the cannabis to just the right temperature; the cannabinoids boil off, and all the organics get left behind. It is much healthier for you.

Let's face it folks, our lungs weren't designed to inhale smoke.

If cannabis were cheap enough that it was worth it to eat it, there would be no significant long term side effects whatsoever.

Look man. You don't know what you're talking about, plain and simple. People who smoke cannabis exclusivly don't develop lung cancer. People who smoke cannabis don't drop dead from "organ failure". That's a bunch of crap. The fact of the matter is that cannabis is safer than most over the counter drugs.

You're more likely to die from Tylenol than cannabis. What about the people that live in societys where cannabis is smoked from an early age, all throughout adulthood? They probably have a longer lifespan than most Americans, because they aren't so stressed out all the time.

It's actually interesting. The lung tissue in people who smoke cannabis becomes pre-cancerous, but it never actually forms into cancer. I was reading an article a while back on some research teams that were studying this phenomenon, and they were hoping that it could eventually lead to new cancer treatments.

That doesen't mean that you can't develop lung ailments like emphysema and chronic bronchitis, which accompany smoke inhilation.

If you're going to focus on why cannabis is bad, you should focus on the "smoking" part of it. That's the only reason it is harmful to your body, at least that we've been able to determine. There are very few, if any, side effects, even from long term use. You can't say that about very many drugs.

I know quite a few people who have smoked pot for the last 25 years, and they live healthy productive lives, just like there are people who go out and hav a drink with their buddies everyday after work for the last 25 years. It really is no different.

OTOH, when was the last time you saw someone that had been doing meth, heroin, coke, etc for the last 25 years and leads a productive life? There aren't any. Those are the drugs that screw you up.

IF the governments goal is to protect us from ourselves reguarding drug legality, then those are the drugs that need to be againt the law.

Otherwise, it's all a bunch of hypocritical bullsh!t as long as alcohol and tobacco are legal.
 
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