Its just because we disagree so much. It's really not that looney
Agnostic Atheists care so little about their own beliefs/spirituality I'm surprised they were able to muster up a word for it.
Gnostic Atheists are far and few in between, most Atheists are Agnostic Atheists who simply do not believe in a god but won't say that there absolutely is no god.
You're learning quite a lot tonight.
The rest of your post were the ravings of a madman so i excluded them, you should probably do the same in the future if you ever want to be taken seriously.
Its just because we disagree so much. It's really not that looney
Agnostic Atheists care so little about their own beliefs/spirituality I'm surprised they were able to muster up a word for it.
All I can say is that my God is perfect, all knowing, all powerful.
NO. You CANNOT state that as a factual assertion. You can, however, say that you believe that.
There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that there is a "God", let along that such a "God" is "perfect" or all-knowing, or all-powerful.
If he did present some "evidence", would you objectively examine and consider it?
The problem with people who call for "undeniable proof and evidence", really don't want it to begin with. What they really want to do is cover up their own insecurities and lack of evidence to the contrary by unfairly keeping the burden of proof on the believer. They already think they've "won" anyway, so they have no evidence and don't feel they need it.
If someone believes flying unicorns existed, so what? That's on them.
But if YOU'RE going to assert God doesn't exist, you have no burden? This isn't table shifting,... you do have some burden to prove that what we believe is hogwash.
The world doesn't work that way. What you can't do is assert you're right without proving it either.
If you can't meet any of your criteria to prove he doesn't exist (which I am assuming is the position you hold), you need to live and let live, and give believers the same respect you want. Keep your non-believe to yourself, everyone doesn't care to hear it either, just as you don't care for what believers have to say on the matter and should keep it "personal".
You're right, the world doesn't work that way. I've never had someone knocking on my door asking me if I believe in flying unicorns either.
The problem with your view is that the beliefs you want believers to keep to themselves, aren't kept to themselves. They're broadcasted in every way imaginable, using fear and guilt to convert people (willing and unwilling) to their beliefs as well.
Like previously stated. I've never had an atheist, agnostic, anti-theist, scientist, evolutionist, etc...knock on my door.
I've never seen any non-believers purchase advertising space. I'm not saying they haven't, I just haven't seen it.
Until someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that a God of any type exists, all believer should stfu and keep it to themselves. We do agree on that.
There is no burden for non-believers. You simple go outside, yell "God, if you exist, smite me now...." and wait.
Why should anyone take what you say seriously?
Because I don't believe in fairy tales.
Also, never did I say I want religion suppressed to home. You can still go to church right?
Because religion was spread through holy wars, it's ok? Hah...
Is that going on today, in our country?
Using the past to discriminate, classic move by anti-religious zealots.
Good for you for not believing. You have that right!
There is no burden for non-believers. You simple go outside, yell "God, if you exist, smite me now...." and wait.
The problem with this, is that you take that up with the people teaching that.
If someone's saying that god would "smite you", then they have to prove it. Unfortunately for you, I know that all religions don't teach that. So you can't ask someone to prove something that they never said would happen.
I define success for our species as controlling multiple star systems in 500 or 1000 years!
Unfortunately I feel we have allowed political correctness to blind us to realities which, will ensure this does not happen. Hope I'm wrong.
What keeps you going ? What is your hope for your current life ?
The proof is in the bible. Whether a god exists or not he certainly had nothing to do with that book of retardation. We all know the dumber and more ignorant you are the more likely you believe in that book of bs. We also know ignorance is bliss, so stop talking and go back to enjoying your fantasy world.The problem with this, is that you take that up with the people teaching that.
If someone's saying that god would "smite you", then they have to prove it. Unfortunately for you, I know that all religions don't teach that. So you can't ask someone to prove something that they never said would happen.
By all means, do present this evidence.If he did present some "evidence", would you objectively examine and consider it?
Ad hominem and well poisoning. Also, the self-reports of a non-believer's own internal state is sufficient evidence to demonstrate his non-belief.The problem with people who call for "undeniable proof and evidence", really don't want it to begin with. What they really want to do is cover up their own insecurities and lack of evidence to the contrary by unfairly keeping the burden of proof on the believer. They already think they've "won" anyway, so they have no evidence and don't feel they need it.
He has a burden if he expects you to be persuaded to accept his position . Personally, I don't expect you to stop believing in gods. I don't think you have the integrity and strength of character.If someone believes flying unicorns existed, so what? That's on them.
But if YOU'RE going to assert God doesn't exist, you have no burden? This isn't table shifting,... you do have some burden to prove that what we believe is hogwash.
Sure I can. Watch: there are precisely 46 planets orbiting Rigel.The world doesn't work that way. What you can't do is assert you're right without proving it either.
The Jesus freaks have earned their disrespect.If you can't meet any of your criteria to prove he doesn't exist (which I am assuming is the position you hold), you need to live and let live, and give believers the same respect you want. Keep your non-believe to yourself, everyone doesn't care to hear it either, just as you don't care for what believers have to say on the matter and should keep it "personal".
I predict that religious beliefs will go up next year when obama crashes the economy and send us into civil war. "There are no atheists in foxholes."
If he did present some "evidence", would you objectively examine and consider it?
The problem with people who call for "undeniable proof and evidence", really don't want it to begin with. What they really want to do is cover up their own insecurities and lack of evidence to the contrary by unfairly keeping the burden of proof on the believer. They already think they've "won" anyway, so they have no evidence and don't feel they need it.
If someone believes flying unicorns existed, so what? That's on them.
But if YOU'RE going to assert God doesn't exist, you have no burden? This isn't table shifting,... you do have some burden to prove that what we believe is hogwash.
The world doesn't work that way. What you can't do is assert you're right without proving it either.
If you can't meet any of your criteria to prove he doesn't exist (which I am assuming is the position you hold), you need to live and let live, and give believers the same respect you want. Keep your non-believe to yourself, everyone doesn't care to hear it either, just as you don't care for what believers have to say on the matter and should keep it "personal".
What keeps you going ? What is your hope for your current life ?
I am honestly not trying to start any kind of argument, I legitimately want to know what it is that you look forward to.
If there is no God, if there is nothing after death, if there is no right/wrong determined by a higher power etc. Then, to be blunt, what keeps you from ending it all right now ?
I've had my share of heartache, and I see many many more people with far bigger struggles and troubles.
If I was completely sold on there being no God or afterlife, I sincerly believe I would have put a gun to my head long ago.
Everyone will agree that we take nothing with us when we die. None of our wealth, posessions or even loved ones.
So what is keeping you going ? What do you put your hope into ?
Been thinking about how depressing that would be, and really wanted to hear some feedback.
So what? Religious groups fought and died for the right to spread their message, and they have the right. You have the same right to NOT listen...and close your door.
You want religion suppressed to the home? Write to congress asking for it, or deal with it and shut up.
People like you cry and moan about gay marriage rights being violated and turn in the same instant breathing hate and suppression against religious groups.
Why should anyone take what you say seriously?