To Those Californians That Voted...

Crab cake

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...if you voted for Proposition 71 (stem cell research), I thank you. To those of you that voted for Prop 63 (tax on certain income) I salute you with the middle finger, and I have never given the finger to anybody in my life, ever!
 

etalns

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Originally posted by: Crab cake
...if you voted for Proposition 71 (stem cell research), I thank you. To those of you that voted for Prop 63 (tax on certain income) I salute you with the middle finger, and I have never given the finger to anybody in my life, ever!

I hope the mods salute you with their ban stick.
 

TheNinja

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I salute those of you who voted "yes" on Prop71 with MY middle finger for raising my taxes and basically making Joe Taxpayer cover the R&D costs for companies who will turn around, screw us over, and charge us a fortune for their product in the long run. Great job California
 

Crab cake

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
I salute those of you who voted "yes" on Prop71 with MY middle finger for raising my taxes and basically making Joe Taxpayer cover the R&D costs for companies who will turn around, screw us over, and charge us a fortune for their product in the long run. Great job California

Prop 71 is a bond measure that everyone pays and benefits equally. Prop 63 is legalized robbery.

 

Stark

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Well, I voted agaist stem cell research (why is a State funding medical research to help drug companies in an UNPROVEN area of science?).

I voted for the mental health prop (funded by the rich). Hopefully they'll be able to do something about the crazy homeless in SF and other places.

I also voted to make walmart pay for health insurance, but that lost.

So I'll take your double middle finger and
 

jjones

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Yeah, I was kind of wondering who's going to be benefiting from the R&D provided at taxpayer expense.
 

Crab cake

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Originally posted by: dquan97
voted Yes on Prop 63

Invisible finger at you.

Really, you sound like a smart guy. Can you explain to me the rationale of your support for that measure?
 

Crab cake

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Originally posted by: Stark
Well, I voted agaist stem cell research (why is a State funding medical research to help drug companies in an UNPROVEN area of science?).

I voted for the mental health prop (funded by the rich). Hopefully they'll be able to do something about the crazy homeless in SF and other places.

I also voted to make walmart pay for health insurance, but that lost.

So I'll take your double middle finger and

As a medical professinal, I don't necessarily disagree with the aim of this measure. It is the target that I have a problem with. Why not tax everybody, if not equally, then on a progressive scale. I bet you the measure wouldn't have passed if everyone has to pay.

 

jjones

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Crab cake
Originally posted by: TheNinja
I salute those of you who voted "yes" on Prop71 with MY middle finger for raising my taxes and basically making Joe Taxpayer cover the R&D costs for companies who will turn around, screw us over, and charge us a fortune for their product in the long run. Great job California

Prop 71 is a bond measure that everyone pays and benefits equally. Prop 63 is legalized robbery.
I haven't read the proposition. Can you summarize how the average taxpayer will reap the benefits of research instead of the patents ultimately derived from this research just going to whichever company coffer?

 

notfred

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I voted no on both. 71 was too expensive, and it was unfair to have so many people voting on 63 who wouldn't be affected by it.

That said, if youre making $1,000,000 a year, you can probably afford a 1% tax. I don't think it's as big a deal as some people are making of it.
 

Toasthead

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Originally posted by: Crab cake
Originally posted by: TheNinja
I salute those of you who voted "yes" on Prop71 with MY middle finger for raising my taxes and basically making Joe Taxpayer cover the R&D costs for companies who will turn around, screw us over, and charge us a fortune for their product in the long run. Great job California

Prop 71 is a bond measure that everyone pays and benefits equally. Prop 63 is legalized robbery.

Somebody has to repay those bonds.... who do you think is gonna do that?
 

Crab cake

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Originally posted by: notfred
I voted no on both. 71 was too expensive, and it was unfair to have so many people voting on 63 who wouldn't be affected by it.

That said, if youre making $1,000,000 a year, you can probably afford a 1% tax. I don't think it's as big a deal as some people are making of it.

As I have said, I don't necessarily disagree with the aim of the measure. It's the method and the target that I have problems with. Whether it's 1% or 10% is irrelevant. Selective taxation of a certain percentage of the population by the masses who pride themselves as moral and just is nothing more than demonstrated jealousy.
 

dquan97

Lifer
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Invisible finger at you.

Really, you sound like a smart guy. Can you explain to me the rationale of your support for that measure?

I know that we are a capitalistic society and everyone deserves every dime that they earn. However, pure capitalism without charity does not foster a healthy social system because mentally ill people need more attention than they're given. I feel that a 1% tax on people earning over $1MM in income is worth having less people in jails/shelters for simply being mentally ill and into programs that can help them learn and cope with their disability.

Reference:
http://www.easyvoter.org/calif...2004-general/3-63.html
 

jadinolf

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: Crab cake
...if you voted for Proposition 71 (stem cell research), I thank you. To those of you that voted for Prop 63 (tax on certain income) I salute you with the middle finger, and I have never given the finger to anybody in my life, ever!

Well, there's a first time for everything.
 
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Originally posted by: dquan97
Invisible finger at you.

Really, you sound like a smart guy. Can you explain to me the rationale of your support for that measure?

I know that we are a capitalistic society and everyone deserves every dime that they earn. However, pure capitalism without charity does not foster a healthy social system because mentally ill people need more attention than they're given. I feel that a 1% tax on people earning over $1MM in income is worth having less people in jails/shelters for simply being mentally ill and into programs that can help them learn and cope with their disability.

Reference:
http://www.easyvoter.org/calif...2004-general/3-63.html
If thats how you feel, give them your money, not mine.

 

xXped0thugXx

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Feb 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: Crab cake
...if you voted for Proposition 71 (stem cell research), I thank you. To those of you that voted for Prop 63 (tax on certain income) I salute you with the middle finger, and I have never given the finger to anybody in my life, ever!

you've never given the middle finger to anyone, man your missing out, i get great satisfaction after i give someone the finger with a big smile.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
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Voted yes on stem cell research. Even if Bush doesn't want to give money to this field of research, we gotta take things in our own hands and raise the money ourselves.
 
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