No offense, but if ANY of you numbnuts were a real doctor you wouldn't be giving away free advice on a tech forum.
You'd tell me to make an appointment, then have me sit for 35 minutes and charge me 200 bucks for aspirin.
Thats what real doctors do.
You can learn about this shit in a basic biology class starting with how cells use ATP to create the energy in the first place. It's not fucking magical wizard powers out of nowhere.
Why did the people in the study gain weight then? As you say, the body is not making the fat from thin air. They reduced how much they ate but still gained weight. Why?
You fucking penises are claiming that insulin makes people fat. Theres a cockload of mother fuckers on insulin and they're skinny.
But they were still eating more that their body required. Thats why they gained weight.
Just because you reduce how much you eat or eat less than the skinny beanpole next to you in the canteen doesnt mean that you are eating the correct amount for you.
The insulin study is interesting but I dont think that its relevant to most people, its like saying you can take loads of amphetamines and laxatives and lose weight therefore dietary intake doesnt matter.
First off, insulin (insulin resistance especially) causes "weight gain" because that's what it's designed to do metabollically speaking. When people get fat they will naturally overload their cells with insulin, which leads to insulin resistance, meaning your cells won't react to insulin the way they normally do. Furthermore, it's believed that fat itself releases a hormone that is a big precurser to insulin resistance. So now you've just double-whammied yourself into type 2 diabetes.
What this "evidence" you puked up and didn't bother to read is saying is that if you pump someone full of enough insulin for long enough you can get their glycemic index under control without making their blood sugar too low. The only problem is, to do this in the first place and overcome the insulin resistance that is there in the first place, you have to nuke the shit out of them with insulin. This leads to Hyperinsulinemia which causes obesity, mainly from sodium retention from what I'm reading.
So yes, no shit, they are going to gain weight. You just dropped the equivalent of 100 Nagasaki's into their blood stream which allows your body to absorb glucose.
FURTHERMORE, this study only tested 14 people, so hardly a varied group to begin with. It also lasted for 6 months, and mentions NOWHERE HOW they were tracking their caloric intake. Did the doctors do it? I highly freaking doubt it.
What it means is: Fatty McFatterson went home and "reported" back with what they ate (probably only 1100 calories a day, amirite fatty?). The doctor's didn't spoon feed them each calorie, they just reported they ate less and it was their 'cundishins' which caused them to gain weight.
This article just nitpicked the shit out of a study that wasn't even designed to determine the correlation between high insulin and obesity in the first place, and then spewed it out to retards like yourself who are fat and want to hear things like "It's not your fault you can't stop stuffing your face!"
Calories in < Calories out = weight loss, for NORMAL people. Not type 2 diabetics with 100x more insulin than the body normally makes.
You can learn about this shit in a basic biology class starting with how cells use ATP to create the energy in the first place. It's not fucking magical wizard powers out of nowhere.
They got down to 1700 calories per day. That is even less than the 2000 recommended for women to eat daily. They still gained weight.
They got down to 1700 calories per day. That is even less than the 2000 recommended for women to eat daily. They still gained weight.
Having reduced their calories over 6 months, shouldn't their weight have stayed the same if not decreased? Yet it increased.
They still gained weight.Regarding insulin... why is it not relevant? We all produce insulin in different amounts at different times.
What that study did is isolate the effect that insulin has on obesity. All of us have insulin in our bodies. Those of us who are overweight have a degree of insulin resistance. See the pattern?
Let's review shall we - you seem to struggle with connecting the dots so allow me to assist you.
Insulin makes you fat
Give anyone enough insulin, and you can make them fat
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They got down to 1700 calories per day. That is even less than the 2000 recommended for women to eat daily. They still gained weight.
Having reduced their calories over 6 months, shouldn't their weight have stayed the same if not decreased? Yet it increased.
Regarding insulin... why is it not relevant? We all produce insulin in different amounts at different times.
What that study did is isolate the effect that insulin has on obesity. All of us have insulin in our bodies. Those of us who are overweight have a degree of insulin resistance. See the pattern?
That "study" was pretty much garbage. Insulin helps process sugar, so if the person was eating excess calories but didn't have enough insulin, the body wouldn't be able to metabolize the sugar already being consumed and would likely excrete it in the urine, so those calories wouldn't be accessed by the body. Furthermore, the "study" doesn't say anything about TOTAL caloric intake, it just says people who ate 300 calories less still gained weight. Were they still over caloric maintenance? If I'm 1000 calories over caloric maintenance, but reduce it by 300, I'm still going to gain fucking weight. In addition, if the added insulin made more calories available by increasing metabolism, the 300 less calories might be a net wash.You haven't been doing your reading, have you?
Read this
Specifically:
According to you, that should be impossible. These people were eating less, and yet they were still getting fatter. How do you explain that?
The answer is in the link by the way.
Most recently a DEXA scan at Tripler Army Hospital. They also offer hydrostatic weighing. I also have an impedence scale that while not quite as accurate, is at least consistent and allows me to track trends in BF %.
I have tons of room to judge others. I'm currently drenched in sweat from running 13 miles, I lifted weights (shoulder day) at lunch and did Insanity Max Interval Plyo this morning at 5am. According to my handy dandy Fitbit app, I still have 1,736 calories left until I'm breaking even for the day. Maybe I'll have some Taco Bell.
I hope Tripler has improved over the years.
They messed my first wife's knee up pretty bad in 1983.
*edit* and no she wasn't fat, I think she was 98 lbs.
Also the number of children born with some form of mental retardation has increased by 47% since 1981
Also the number of children born with some form of mental retardation has increased by 47% since 1981
Literally the best medical care I've seen anywhere in the Army. And I just came from Fort Sam Houston, the center of military medicine. Wait time for an MRI there was 6 weeks. Here it's a couple days.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
I was in the Marines there at Kaneohe Bay ATT, but yeah, anything surgery related went to Tripler.
It's ironic how a country with so many fat people also shames people for being fat....
It's ironic how a country with so many fat people also shames people for being fat....