Tom Clancy - The Division

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WiseUp216

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Mar 12, 2012
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I added everyone who posted a uPlay name. Feel free to join me if you see me but bare with me, I won't have a mic until this weekend.

Level 10 / DZ 8
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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I doubt I'll have all that much time to play, but I'm installing it anyway -- uplay is JLee50.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I added everyone who posted a uPlay name. Feel free to join me if you see me but bare with me, I won't have a mic until this weekend.

Level 10 / DZ 8

whats your uPlay name? we are close in levels so it would work out. Level 12 here about to be 13
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Is that the Madison square hospital mission? I don't remember a stadium mission in the beta. It was the hospital one and the tech wing mission which involved a bunch of guys with flamethrowers. I remember the missions getting harder the with the more people you had in a group. I did the hospital one by myself.

Yeah, I mean Madison Square Garden (isn't that a stadium?), forgot the name. I had no problems in the beta, either doing it solo or with a group. I actually did it four times IIRC, twice solo and twice in a group. Anyway, I'll give it another shot tonight. I may have to just do side missions and level up a couple times and get better gear. After I visited the Safe House for the first time after getting to Manhattan and helping JTF out front, I went straight to the MSG mission.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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Yeah, I mean Madison Square Garden (isn't that a stadium?), forgot the name. I had no problems in the beta, either doing it solo or with a group. I actually did it four times IIRC, twice solo and twice in a group. Anyway, I'll give it another shot tonight. I may have to just do side missions and level up a couple times and get better gear. After I visited the Safe House for the first time after getting to Manhattan and helping JTF out front, I went straight to the MSG mission.
Even on the console I think you need to watch who you join with. I just finished the tech wing mission, subway morgue. One guy in the group was level 19 so it scaled all the enemies to level 14 and I was only level 7-8. All the enemies had skulls above their heads too. I still was able to do damage though.

After we finished the mission I went free roaming but stayed in the group. Because of this, enemies around were also still level 14 until I left the group.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Even on the console I think you need to watch who you join with. I just finished the tech wing mission, subway morgue. One guy in the group was level 19 so it scaled all the enemies to level 14 and I was only level 7-8. All the enemies had skulls above their heads too. I still was able to do damage though.

After we finished the mission I went free roaming but stayed in the group. Because of this, enemies around were also still level 14 until I left the group.

yeah thats something they gotta fix i think.
 

Fire&Blood

Platinum Member
Jan 13, 2009
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DZ working out just as I suspected. A team of rogues was dominating the server. They were mowing down everyone with CS like TTK while everyone else needed to empty magazines just to knock down one health bar. They had at least one healer reversing all the damage done to them. I tabbed out to youtube, didn't even bother trying. When I tabbed back in they were gone, guessing they moved to a different area.

I was clearing out the NPC's in the sports store with a bunch of random people. Everyone was cooperating, it was fun.. until one guy opened the chest on the podium. I watched a guy wait for him to turn his back then killed him for some blue loot. He had revived his killer just minutes ago when he got overwhelmed by a few NPC's. DZ is so broken...

I can't recall a multiplayer game launching without imbalance or exploit issues but this was ridiculous. Rogue team was killing everyone without any casualties, not even needing to revive a downed teammate. The most damage done to them was getting a rogue down to 1 health bar before he healed.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Admittedly I haven't spent a ton of time in the DZ (DZ level 12, gone in 3 times), but I haven't run into those issues at all. I haven't been shot at yet.
 

XavierMace

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Apr 20, 2013
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There are a few issues atm. One is a mission is setup for the number of members in the group times the level of the highest member in the group when first started. It never scales dynamically after that. So it was scaled like there were 4 level 7 players.

Incorrect. It absolutely will scale the enemies when somebody new joins the mission. I've had multiple instances of sitting there running missions with a friend at levels 15-20 when a level 30 friend joins the team which bumps any enemies you haven't already engaged to level 30.
 

XavierMace

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2013
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DZ working out just as I suspected. A team of rogues was dominating the server. They were mowing down everyone with CS like TTK while everyone else needed to empty magazines just to knock down one health bar. They had at least one healer reversing all the damage done to them. I tabbed out to youtube, didn't even bother trying. When I tabbed back in they were gone, guessing they moved to a different area.

I was clearing out the NPC's in the sports store with a bunch of random people. Everyone was cooperating, it was fun.. until one guy opened the chest on the podium. I watched a guy wait for him to turn his back then killed him for some blue loot. He had revived his killer just minutes ago when he got overwhelmed by a few NPC's. DZ is so broken...

I can't recall a multiplayer game launching without imbalance or exploit issues but this was ridiculous. Rogue team was killing everyone without any casualties, not even needing to revive a downed teammate. The most damage done to them was getting a rogue down to 1 health bar before he healed.

There were some issues with hackers the other night. I personally emptied an entire mag into one guy (110k DPS) from point blank with no effect. Then got one shotted through a wall. Some of the other people I play with reported similar issues. One group of rogues was at like a 12 minute cooldown.

That said, as I had to remind somebody the other night, it IS a PvP zone. If you're going into it expecting to NEVER see a rogue, the problem is your expectation, not the game. That uncertainty of what's going to happen is what keeps the game interesting.

Also keep in mind if you're not running in a full group, you might as well paint a bullseye on your back. An organized group of rogues is going to murder groups of random unorganized people.

It also depends which DZ you are in. Rogues are far less common in the higher level DZ's.
 

Feneant2

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May 26, 2004
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I started a summoner witch to get her down the Necromancer line, going to use Zombies and skeletons mostly but I wonder, can I also use a golem, totem, spectre, animate weapon, etc? My goal is to throw an army of stuff at mobs so I don't need to actually do anything
 

thejunglegod

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Feb 12, 2012
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I started a summoner witch to get her down the Necromancer line, going to use Zombies and skeletons mostly but I wonder, can I also use a golem, totem, spectre, animate weapon, etc? My goal is to throw an army of stuff at mobs so I don't need to actually do anything

Wrong thread? Or some weird sort of sarcasm that this game is like POE?
 

Fire&Blood

Platinum Member
Jan 13, 2009
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There were some issues with hackers the other night. I personally emptied an entire mag into one guy (110k DPS) from point blank with no effect. Then got one shotted through a wall. Some of the other people I play with reported similar issues. One group of rogues was at like a 12 minute cooldown.

That said, as I had to remind somebody the other night, it IS a PvP zone. If you're going into it expecting to NEVER see a rogue, the problem is your expectation, not the game. That uncertainty of what's going to happen is what keeps the game interesting.

Also keep in mind if you're not running in a full group, you might as well paint a bullseye on your back. An organized group of rogues is going to murder groups of random unorganized people.

It also depends which DZ you are in. Rogues are far less common in the higher level DZ's.

I don't have a problem with rogues or PvP, going into DZ is basically consenting to whatever happens once you are there.

My issue is with the imbalance. I can't complain if I go into the DZ alone and get ambushed by a team. What the game should do is make sure that players stand a chance against each other and that's not the case.

Im positive if UBI wants to that they can find creative ways to fix issues
 

XavierMace

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2013
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Honestly, that's kinda normal RPG and Shooter PvP. If you don't have top tier gear, you're probably in for a bad time. They've got it level restricted which is about the best they can do. I get the frustration, I just don't see a reasonable way of solving that.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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level 10/ DZ 0 (haven't even gone to the DZ yet)
I was level 7 and somehow was teleported to the DZ when I joined a friend. I left though becuase I knew I wasn't ready yet. I'm 8, maybe level 9 now and I still don't think I'll be ready yet.
 

Fire&Blood

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Jan 13, 2009
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I was level 7 and somehow was teleported to the DZ when I joined a friend. I left though becuase I knew I wasn't ready yet. I'm 8, maybe level 9 now and I still don't think I'll be ready yet.

The DZ should be most enjoyable at lower levels, the disparity is negligible until you max out.

I'm axb2012 on uplay. Add me but be aware I'm lv30, if you invite me to missions, enemies scale up beyond reach for lower levels.
 

Clemenza

Senior member
Oct 12, 2010
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I changed my Uplay name so that some friends who know be by another name could find me. It's Veritas325. I've not been on much this week but should be more next week.

Had a great time in the DZ the other day. I joined a random group and we accidentally got turned rouge so we just ran with it and began to murder everyone. We ended up with manhunt status backed into a dead end street. We were able to hold of the 3 or 4 guys that came after us util the timer ran out. It was a lot of fun.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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does anyone know how armor works? has anyone broken the stats down? Like is it better to have higher armor lower hp or lower armor higher hp?

oh and how do i see my character stats? I read a few times that there is a way to see like how much damage reduction you have, resistances, etc
 
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