Tom Clancy - The Division

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pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
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Got several levels today. Up to 18 now. How are you guys gearing your characters? Are you trying to go for a specific role? How do you balance it between group and solo play? How does going for a role work in a group, like say 1 guy goes healer, 1 tank, 2 dps or whatever? It doesnt seem like the tank guy has really much to be a tank, at least in the traditional sense. No way to increase threat on himself, no taunt, etc.

Guessing most group play is in the dz so not sure how the roles work there either, besides healing obviously.
 

iahk

Senior member
Jan 19, 2002
707
0
76
Got several levels today. Up to 18 now. How are you guys gearing your characters? Are you trying to go for a specific role? How do you balance it between group and solo play? How does going for a role work in a group, like say 1 guy goes healer, 1 tank, 2 dps or whatever? It doesnt seem like the tank guy has really much to be a tank, at least in the traditional sense. No way to increase threat on himself, no taunt, etc.

Guessing most group play is in the dz so not sure how the roles work there either, besides healing obviously.

You'll eventually get muzzle mods that increase threat. I tested it out with my friend earlier who was getting surrounded by some mobs. I had the increased threat muzzle on with an extended magazine mod on my assault rifle (gave about 50 rounds per magazine on the rifle) and unloaded in their general area and they all turned around and focused on me.

During end game when you start hitting the challenge mode dailies, you'll want as much crowd control as possible. You'll either need alot of coordination and/or have everyone equip some type of cc skill and skill cooldown reduction talents. The rushers really start wrecking things.
 
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XavierMace

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2013
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Installing via steam. Any noob friendly advise regarding if I can jump directly to online?

If you mean directly to the DZ, I would wait until you have some decent gear. It's all online so see if anyone from here is online when you get on and wants to run missions with you. Just be aware, as stated before, if a high level player joins your team, it scales the enemies up to their level and you'll just get destroyed.
 

Clemenza

Senior member
Oct 12, 2010
253
2
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Got several levels today. Up to 18 now. How are you guys gearing your characters? Are you trying to go for a specific role? How do you balance it between group and solo play? How does going for a role work in a group, like say 1 guy goes healer, 1 tank, 2 dps or whatever? It doesnt seem like the tank guy has really much to be a tank, at least in the traditional sense. No way to increase threat on himself, no taunt, etc.

Guessing most group play is in the dz so not sure how the roles work there either, besides healing obviously.


I've run a couple of the PVE mission with a group on hard mode and it can be a challenge. I'm not sure what role I want to play. Tank and heals both seem interesting. I currently run (at level 15) with the AOE heal pack that revives teammates and the tank skill that reinforces cover and heals. It's pretty effective in group and solo. Eventually I'll have to pick one and start min/maxing to that.
 

nurturedhate

Golden Member
Aug 27, 2011
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I've run a couple of the PVE mission with a group on hard mode and it can be a challenge. I'm not sure what role I want to play. Tank and heals both seem interesting. I currently run (at level 15) with the AOE heal pack that revives teammates and the tank skill that reinforces cover and heals. It's pretty effective in group and solo. Eventually I'll have to pick one and start min/maxing to that.

We've done all of the available challenge modes so far with a premade group of three and puging the fourth spot. All have been successful though the power plant from yesterday's daily was a little rough on the opening pull and on the valve timer checkpoint. We have yet to need someone in an actual tank role. We currently have one of us set up as a support healer, one as a dps/cc, and myself as a dps/pulse/spot heal and it works great. Seeker mines set to gas is a great cc and so is the flame turret if put in a good location. The AI seems to have issues with the flame turret if it is place slightly above them, say on top of an ambulance or on the back side of a wall so it hits the in the back as they run past.

We are always looking for a more consistent 4th or at least some more people on our friend's list for dailies and DZ.

nurturedhate on uplay.
 

Clemenza

Senior member
Oct 12, 2010
253
2
76
We've done all of the available challenge modes so far with a premade group of three and puging the fourth spot. All have been successful though the power plant from yesterday's daily was a little rough on the opening pull and on the valve timer checkpoint. We have yet to need someone in an actual tank role. We currently have one of us set up as a support healer, one as a dps/cc, and myself as a dps/pulse/spot heal and it works great. Seeker mines set to gas is a great cc and so is the flame turret if put in a good location. The AI seems to have issues with the flame turret if it is place slightly above them, say on top of an ambulance or on the back side of a wall so it hits the in the back as they run past.

We are always looking for a more consistent 4th or at least some more people on our friend's list for dailies and DZ.

nurturedhate on uplay.

I'm hoping to play more next week. It's hard for me to find time during the week because of work and BJJ. Usually I'll play weekends but I'm out of town this weekend.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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we ran power plant yesterday with 2 tank 1 DPS and 1 heal special, we finished the timer room with 7 minutes on the clock

they key is to just CC the crap out of the door spawns and rush the snipers. the sticky bomb with flash or the fire one + a nade or 2+ concentrated fire on the doos in the last room makes those waves die before they can even really get into the room

the highest tech members should run the heals, other should run the CCs, everyone should run the scan with + crit and damage
 

Midwayman

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2000
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Played with TheRulesLawyer a bit. He didn't talk though, haha.
Not sure how we grouped as I didn't invite him nor did I see any invite from him.
at least the graphics didn't glitch out like that first time i tried to group.

If you're on the someone's friend's list you can just join their group. No invite needed. I'm not normally a big talker, but someone was complaining about my mic so I disabled it at one point. Finally figured out how to set it to PTT so I'm not spamming everyone.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
22,004
20,241
136
We've done all of the available challenge modes so far with a premade group of three and puging the fourth spot. All have been successful though the power plant from yesterday's daily was a little rough on the opening pull and on the valve timer checkpoint. We have yet to need someone in an actual tank role. We currently have one of us set up as a support healer, one as a dps/cc, and myself as a dps/pulse/spot heal and it works great. Seeker mines set to gas is a great cc and so is the flame turret if put in a good location. The AI seems to have issues with the flame turret if it is place slightly above them, say on top of an ambulance or on the back side of a wall so it hits the in the back as they run past.

We are always looking for a more consistent 4th or at least some more people on our friend's list for dailies and DZ.

nurturedhate on uplay.

that was all greek to me
 

randay

Lifer
May 30, 2006
11,019
216
106
Uplay username DomGlancy

lvl 30, trying to gear up, sad that i only reached this point just after nerfs. add me if you are 30 and need people to go farm DZ or challenge mode dailys. you can add me if you arent 30, but i wont be able to help you until you are.
 

Bloodpetal

Junior Member
Mar 18, 2016
2
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0
Are they going to be doing any changes to the PVP Mode? When we tried it with my friends, it wasn't very fun with players charging you when you went rogue. We were hoping for something a little more PVP friendly.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
32,539
260
126
Played a couple hours last night. Game looks great. Does suffer a bit from consoleitis for the option screens and the inventory UI. Also takes a bit getting used to how much ammo you've got to pump into guys. Prepeard for a good lulz when your melee attack probably kills in one hit though.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
27,052
357
126
I don't own this game but has anyone tried it with a controller? I know all the haters will tell me it has to be played with a mouse but I'm asking seriously.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
When grouped does everyone get their own loot? Seems that way to me.

when do you get "increases threat" items? all i have seen so far is "decreases threat".

The tank tree seems like it sucks, imo. 2 of the 3 skills are stationary but it seems that you are required to move a lot, especially in the major missions. you either have to move to better cover because you can't get a line of fire on someone, someone got a better angle on you, someone throws a grenade, or you need to move to revive a teammate or get help/help someone.

the riot shield is kinda cool but you can only use a pistol. should at least allow 1 handed SMGs. If threat works by damage, a pistol is hardly going to help get threat off others.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
14,184
626
126
I was able to join a level 15 dark zone with some friends and that got me to dark zone level 11. Granted I'm playing on ps4 but it's still tough and they also level the enemies to whatever level the highest player is.

First time I entered the dark zone at level 10 in pve I got greeted by 6 level 14 enemies.
 

Fire&Blood

Platinum Member
Jan 13, 2009
2,331
16
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Apologies to Xavier, I don't have a mic which has proven itself to be quite a disadvantage in online games, especially in the Division. Long story short, recently I walked away from my desktop with the headphones a while ago and broke off the headphone jack that's still stuck so I had to reassign the mic as headphone jack, speakers aren't an option at the moment but I'll pick up a standalone USB mic soon, suggestions are welcome. I've had to run from 2 guys for good 5 minutes, they started chasing me because I showed up at extraction zone without loot to extract, they assumed I was trying to rob them. I still can't figure out to get team (text) chat working but in situations like that, there is little time to type anyway, that'a assuming has chat enabled to begin with.

I like "farming" the Bryant Park extraction zone. It offers lots of high level enemies, including "named" ones may drop better loot. It also cuts down on time lost walking to extract after clearing out an area. There is also a underground area with a named boss as well, right under Bryant Park. I've gotten my DZ credits pretty quickly up to 100k mostly by farming that park.
All lv30's are welcome to farm together, just let me know.


Ran into a group of pre nerf rogues today. I have a black market (yellow) rifle and I played long enough to keep my crosshair on running targets. I fired an entire 51 round clip into one of them, at least 10 headshots and 70% hit rate, I barely scratched him, he lost maybe a third of one of his health bars.
He didn't even turn around, they went into subway to wait out the rogue timer. These were my stats when I ran into them:

 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
22,004
20,241
136
got to a measly level 26 in the Division and now that i am going back into the darkzone it is brutal. i am darkzone level 11 but all my enemies are darkzone level 26 and 25. it's impossible to play. wtf!
 
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sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
14,184
626
126
got to a measly level 26 in the Division and now that i am going back into the darkzone it is brutal. i am darkzone level 11 but all my enemies are darkzone level 26 and 25. it's impossible to play. wtf!
Is there someone in your group that's a higher level? I'm dark zone level 11 and level 10 in pve and my dark zone enemies were all 12-14.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
27,052
357
126
Is there someone in your group that's a higher level? I'm dark zone level 11 and level 10 in pve and my dark zone enemies were all 12-14.

From what he's saying is the darkzone enemies are scaling to his PvE level for some reason.
 
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