Tom Clancy - The Division

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Fire&Blood

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Jan 13, 2009
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How did you find the good gear? All i found was garbage.

Exploring the areas that are deeper in the DZ grants tougher enemies, dropping better loot after you kill them. The DZ02 has tougher enemies than DZ01. I also went exploring the streets, usually accessible buildings mean respawning NPC that drop loot. This can be hard if you play alone, which I did most time but extracting it is even tougher.

I am level 8 and DZ rank 12 now. Spent most of time in PVP, getting bored but there isn't enough happening in singleplayer for a change of pace.

Smart move by Ubi, short beta holds up long enough to sway people into buying.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Game has a lot of potential. Curious about the mission system on final release. Will there be a set amount of missions? Or will there be side missions that pop up at random? Like help JTF capture a building or something? I can see it grow stale if once you run out of missions the PVP zone is the end game.

Overall a good experience. Need to find out about the end game content on release before plopping money down.
 

Fire&Blood

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Jan 13, 2009
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Game has a lot of potential. Curious about the mission system on final release. Will there be a set amount of missions? Or will there be side missions that pop up at random? Like help JTF capture a building or something? I can see it grow stale if once you run out of missions the PVP zone is the end game.

Overall a good experience. Need to find out about the end game content on release before plopping money down.

Supposedly there are 10 main missions like the one in beta. More missions like the water facility one are coming. The features unlocked later can help but Ubi needs a lot of content now.

They could set up random generated missions and make enough variety to get the most out of it. Game would still need more story content. If Ubi cares enough, they could keep the crowds entertained, essentially buy time to create more content.

Base building and associated missions could help fill in the gaps but it remains to be seen how much work was put into it as well as into features not available in the beta.

The count of man hours needed to make this game to the full potential is something Ubisoft is not known for. It's been 2 &1/2 years since that video reveal, has Massive done enough already is a question that has to be answered.

I'm under the impression that PC welcomes a different online shooter, Ubi playing it smart could sell millions on the PC.


The game is kind of a mix of Watch Dogs, Crysis 2 and DX: Human Revolution but it works. No crashes and no issues, love how fast it loads from my new SSD.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/43jr61/pc_version_will_be_plagued_with_cheaters/

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivisio...stion_there_better_be_anticheat_in_the_final/

server trusts what the client tells it. a little over 1 month til full release. I doubt the developers will get this fixed before release.

The Division is going to be dead on release for PC

1) You will never eliminate cheaters until we have network connections able to communicate with a server instantly. DX Injection and reading things like player location (even if not shown, the client has to know it otherwise it is lagged when you do seem them) will always be something you just have to deal with. And those are pretty close to undetectable anyway, as you aren't manipulating the client in any way, simply redrawing.

2) Who is to say there isn't anticheat that simply wasn't implemented yet? It would be better to monitor how people are finding out how to cheat in the beta to test if their anti cheat picks that up.
 

Fire&Blood

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To have New York covered in snow just in time for the beta... I wonder how much Ubisoft paid for that PR stunt.

Cheating has been a thing in online shooters for a while now, no reason this game would be different.
It's why I prefer singleplayer games. Back in the day, multiplayer meant lan party.
People act so much nicer when they are all in the same room and can feel the pain instantly if they start trolling.
 

SithSolo1

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Well I racked up a little over a day of play time this weekend on my main character. Pretty much cleaned out the area outside the DZ and then either farmed the hospital or ran the DZ for the rest of the time.


PVE zone:

Feels like a large city with good scaling. Good initial amount of quests/encounters but once finished there isn't much to do. I do like that the main story quests are repeatable for more gear but lot of the outside enemy spawns are tied to the quests and don't re-appear after you finish them. Hopefully this was mainly due to the stripped down beta. Speaking of the enemies, I completely agree they are dumber than dirt. They may hide behind cover but are mainly happy to eat headshots all day long. I hope this gets improved. Collecting phone records and viewing the holo recreations didn't seem to do much but I think they are used for things not in the beta. I like the idea of building a base but I need to see more of it. Visual customization of the character with gear was good.

PVP Zone:

I am not a PVP oriented person therefore I try to avoid it in most games. DZ was interesting, sometimes you would get in one where everyone was just farming PVE content others it seemed like half the people were rogue and each half was farming the other. Rogue hunting was fun and helped pass the time while NPCs respawned. Gear is much better here but getting it out is tricky. More than a few times I'd try to extract and then get mowed down by unflagged players at the last second while attaching the loot to the drop line. Occasionally other players would come to my aid but it was a rare occurrence. Running in a group curbed this behavior but did not completely eliminate it.

Things that bugged me:

No trade system. What the eternal f***?!? How do you build a game based around drops and group play and not have a system for trading or sharing loot? I like that each player gets their own drops but more often than not we'd get drops the other needs and couldn't swap.

Civilian npcs. You're supposed to be the good guy, they know you are here to help, and they run off as soon as you get near them. You just cleared out a street gang, whats your reward? Civilians screaming in terror as they flee from your sight. There are some beggars who give you loot for food/drink but wait too long and they will shun you forever. Out side of the beggars there seems to be zero interaction with the population large. I feel this could have been done better such as people giving you clues or tips if you talk to them.

Buildings. You can go in some pre-determined structures that have the same basic layout but thats it. Needs more variety. We're in a city where most of the population has been decimated. Why can't I break in any random building and search for things to aid myself and the people still living. Locked door? Can't shoot it open with a high-power shotgun, gotta loot a lock pick kit. Stupid.

Cars. I can close the doors but not open them? Huge missed opportunity for random, hidden loot stashes. Could have also used them for hiding/ambushing in the DZ.

Lastly, I know its a lot to keep track of but it irks me that I can't knock out any glass or lights. You can shoot them all day long and make some holes or dim the lights for a few seconds but you can't knock them completely out. I wouldn't even mind if it only worked outside the DZ and reset once I got a certain distance away.


I needs more work/content and I'm still not sold on the whole "a gun can't kill in 3 headshots or less" but overall I enjoyed playing it with my friends and I plan on keeping my pre-order.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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Nice. I think I'll fire it up one last time tonight and try and find the Dark Zone again.
I'll do the same thing on ps4. The thing is I found a good group of people in the beta and spent a lot of time with them in the Dark Zone. Last night we were rolling around in two groups of 4, it looked insane and frightened every other player trying to extract stuff.

Finally got to level 8 so now we can all go into the second tier dark zone.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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whomever thought the format for the emails they send out was a good idea is a moron. i can barely read the text. i had to highlight it to read it.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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whomever thought the format for the emails they send out was a good idea is a moron. i can barely read the text. i had to highlight it to read it.
Showed up as white text on black background for me. Must be your email client.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Showed up as white text on black background for me. Must be your email client.

really? mine showed up as dark gray background with slightly darker gray text.

how would i change this in my email client? I use Outlook 2003. I have never had an issue with any other emails.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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really? mine showed up as dark gray background with slightly darker gray text.

how would i change this in my email client? I use Outlook 2003. I have never had an issue with any other emails.
Look at the default email templates under settings. I can't get personal emails at work so everything else comes in through my phone which I use inbox for. Basically like gmail but grouped differently.
 

TeknoBug

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Oct 2, 2013
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Do not spend money on this game if you don't want Ubisoft to hold back the PC version on purpose.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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is there going to be another beta event before release? I am doubtful.

Wanting to know if safe to delete the game now?
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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is there going to be another beta event before release? I am doubtful.

Wanting to know if safe to delete the game now?
My friend told me last night there will be a open beta at the end of the month. I deleted it from my ps4 becuase I didn't know this.
 

sweenish

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May 21, 2013
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I wouldn't call the 18th the end of the month.

I'm curious enough that I've finally installed Uplay. Now that that hurdle has been overcome, I'm debating the current humble bundle again.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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I will play again. But I am having a hard time thinking how the mechanic to get contaminated items out of the safe zone is fun and not annoying.
 
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