Tom Clancy - The Division

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pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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damn, season pass is 39.99? they better be adding a massive amount of content for that price. that's like the cost of another game!
 

XavierMace

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2013
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Can everyone please make sure you're checking the level of the players who's group you're joining BEFORE clicking the join button please. I hate being logged into my alt to help lower level friends out and having 30's jump in and getting the whole group wiped out. It shows you right on the group screen what level they are. If it's not within 2 numbers of your level, you probably shouldn't join.
 

SithSolo1

Diamond Member
Mar 19, 2001
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damn, season pass is 39.99? they better be adding a massive amount of content for that price. that's like the cost of another game!

If it's the same stuff included in the gold edition pass then I think it's three paid expansions.

Finally hit 50 in the DZ. Haven't seen many High-End drops there but got a few from LootKing and Hornet. Still need to start crafting but I'm low on HE Division Tech.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Does anyone use the water, soda, incendiary bullets, etc? I always forget about them and what keys they are bound to.

Although ALWAYS give them to civilians in need. You usually get an appearance item or crappy gray item but the other day i got a purple 1911 from one of them!
 

XavierMace

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2013
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Does anyone use the water, soda, incendiary bullets, etc? I always forget about them and what keys they are bound to.

Although ALWAYS give them to civilians in need. You usually get an appearance item or crappy gray item but the other day i got a purple 1911 from one of them!

I stopped giving them to civilians around level 20 or so. Bullets I keep for harder boss fights and then usually forget to use them.
 

Aristotelian

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Jan 30, 2010
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Hey all,

I have a few questions for the more experienced players here:

(i) With the 30 Phoenix Credit thing from Uplay - I clicked it when I was level 27, and it shows that it is redeemed - I even took the amount from the special rewards vendor. But no credits appeared. And when I hit level 30, it showed 0 Credits. Is there a way for me to re-check this? It says that I was awarded the credits but don't have them.

(ii) I tried to mooch and was justifiably booted rapidly from any 'challenge mode' group yesterday with the tunnel morgue mission. Hard mode feels easy, and from what I read online I should be focusing on hard mode dailies, as well as hard mode General Assembly (repeat). I'm around 50k/40k/10k at the moment, so too low for challenge mode. I'm Dzone level 10 or so. I find it really hard to solo the elites there, but the purples are quite easy.

I keep seeing everyone talk about getting the Vector - so I'm farming Phoenix Credits to buy the blueprint and saving all crafting materials I find for that, to re-roll it. As well as the mods (especially the one with magazine size improvement etc).

As with most of these games, I'm having difficulty finding online players to play with. I tend to play late in EU time, so if any USA players tend to play in the afternoon my Uplay tag is 'AnAristotelian'.

Cheers.
 

XavierMace

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Apr 20, 2013
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(ii) I tried to mooch and was justifiably booted rapidly from any 'challenge mode' group yesterday with the tunnel morgue mission. Hard mode feels easy, and from what I read online I should be focusing on hard mode dailies, as well as hard mode General Assembly (repeat). I'm around 50k/40k/10k at the moment, so too low for challenge mode. I'm Dzone level 10 or so. I find it really hard to solo the elites there, but the purples are quite easy.

Can you post some more details on your gear? That DPS is REALLY low. I was at 85k or so before I started running dailies. I'm at 110k with my M1A, 130k with my MP7, and 150k with my LVOA (M4).

Which DZ are you playing in? They get harder the higher up you go.

Also, I wouldn't be that concerned about the Vector. It's not the be all, end all of weapons. I certainly wouldn't spend the crap ton of mats recrafting it trying to get the "right" talents. At least not until you've got the rest of your gear reasonably sorted.
 
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hondaf17

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Sep 25, 2005
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I'm really enjoying the game. Have a couple questions:

1) How long did it take everyone to reach level 30? I am about 15 hours in and about level 15. Seems like it's been slow progression. I can't do too many main missions until I'm higher rank, because they're too difficult. The side missions and encounters take awhile to accumulate XP. I did do the security wing upgrade which grants me a 10% XP gain.

2) I can go into the dark zone as level 15. It says dark zone player level 15-19 (for example). But then the computer bosses are level 28 and I get killed instantly. Do you really avoid dark zone until level 30?

3) Constantly going to base of operations or safe houses to deconstruct gear and weapons. Inventory management is a major part of this game.

4) I need a tutorial of DPS vs Health vs Skill. The interface is just kind of boggled, tough to navigate.

Overall though, great game and having fun, but want to get into the dark zone and play with my friends, kind of a grind to get to 30.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Played a bit last night and had a couple funny moments. First I come across yet another in game lesbian reference. Is this supposed to be Ubi's response to the AC complaint? Then I get to the Hostage rescue of the newest zone i started and did find it interesting that i've come across yet another "hostage party" that consist of just two people, a male and female. Tried to remember back and maybe one of the previous ones had three, but I just found it funny that they only use two each time. At least I found it funny until the male in the most recent group may have gotten jealous about me saving his lady friend and decided to stand in the doorway not letting me out. Had to port back to the safehouse to keep playing.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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One funny moment I had was when I had just given a civilian in need something and he promptly got killed by a sniper who was shooting at me.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
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I'm really enjoying the game. Have a couple questions:

1) How long did it take everyone to reach level 30? I am about 15 hours in and about level 15. Seems like it's been slow progression. I can't do too many main missions until I'm higher rank, because they're too difficult. The side missions and encounters take awhile to accumulate XP. I did do the security wing upgrade which grants me a 10% XP gain.

2) I can go into the dark zone as level 15. It says dark zone player level 15-19 (for example). But then the computer bosses are level 28 and I get killed instantly. Do you really avoid dark zone until level 30?

3) Constantly going to base of operations or safe houses to deconstruct gear and weapons. Inventory management is a major part of this game.

4) I need a tutorial of DPS vs Health vs Skill. The interface is just kind of boggled, tough to navigate.

Overall though, great game and having fun, but want to get into the dark zone and play with my friends, kind of a grind to get to 30.

I'd say for me it was about 30 hours to reach 30.

you can deconstruct gear anywhere, not just safe houses or base of operations.
 

Midwayman

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Jan 28, 2000
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(ii) I tried to mooch and was justifiably booted rapidly from any 'challenge mode' group yesterday with the tunnel morgue mission. Hard mode feels easy, and from what I read online I should be focusing on hard mode dailies, as well as hard mode General Assembly (repeat). I'm around 50k/40k/10k at the moment, so too low for challenge mode. I'm Dzone level 10 or so. I find it really hard to solo the elites there, but the purples are quite easy.

I keep seeing everyone talk about getting the Vector - so I'm farming Phoenix Credits to buy the blueprint and saving all crafting materials I find for that, to re-roll it. As well as the mods (especially the one with magazine size improvement etc).

Are you in all purples yet? Run Russian consulate on hard until you have good rolls on everything. Purples should get you into the 80-90k dps range. You can also buy a couple HE weapons from the security wing of the BoO for around 480k credits.

As for the vector, just start decontructing everything for Mats. If you're really dedicated, create an alt and run them to the nearest safe house at level 4. Put your junk purples in the stash and have your alt sell them and buy cheap level 4 blues and put them in your stash. You main then deconstructs them for mats. Super easy to farm enough mats for a vectors. You can upgrade mats to HE in crafting.
 

Midwayman

Diamond Member
Jan 28, 2000
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I'm really enjoying the game. Have a couple questions:

1) How long did it take everyone to reach level 30? I am about 15 hours in and about level 15. Seems like it's been slow progression. I can't do too many main missions until I'm higher rank, because they're too difficult. The side missions and encounters take awhile to accumulate XP. I did do the security wing upgrade which grants me a 10% XP gain.

2) I can go into the dark zone as level 15. It says dark zone player level 15-19 (for example). But then the computer bosses are level 28 and I get killed instantly. Do you really avoid dark zone until level 30?

3) Constantly going to base of operations or safe houses to deconstruct gear and weapons. Inventory management is a major part of this game.

4) I need a tutorial of DPS vs Health vs Skill. The interface is just kind of boggled, tough to navigate.

Overall though, great game and having fun, but want to get into the dark zone and play with my friends, kind of a grind to get to 30.

1) around low 20's in hours. If you're leveling slow, use the match making in the safe house to join a 'free roam' group. You'll tear through the world pve content.

2) DZ zones are by level. The lowest level zone is the far south. Its entirely possible to enter in dz5,6 and find super hard enemies. stay south.

3) You can deconstruct anywhere....

4) DPS is Vaguely how much damage you do with your gun taking in account odds to hit, reload time, etc. Heath is simply how many hits you can take, skill is how effective your skills are. Like first aid will heal for more, or ping will do a stronger buff, etc.
 

Aristotelian

Golden Member
Jan 30, 2010
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Can you post some more details on your gear? That DPS is REALLY low. I was at 85k or so before I started running dailies. I'm at 110k with my M1A, 130k with my MP7, and 150k with my LVOA (M4).

Which DZ are you playing in? They get harder the higher up you go.

Also, I wouldn't be that concerned about the Vector. It's not the be all, end all of weapons. I certainly wouldn't spend the crap ton of mats recrafting it trying to get the "right" talents. At least not until you've got the rest of your gear reasonably sorted.

My actual stats are 51k/52k/13k. One of my purples has the final stat only, which for my intentions is sub-optimal. I'm using a level 27 Socom Scar-L that has 4937 damage, so that can definitely be upgraded. My mods are pretty crappy as well - I hit 30 a few hours before posting my message.

I went into the very beginner dead zone - even rogue agents were ignoring me which was quite funny. I need a dps boost to effectively farm the beginning area - it takes me too long and I use up so much ammo taking them out.

I'll do Russian consulate on hard, but I heard that General Assembly was better because of the guaranteed 4+ purple drops. I deconstruct everything that isn't a clear upgrade.

Will play a bit tomorrow and see if I can drop my health a bit for some extra dps.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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ok, do new phones, echoes, etc unlock in older areas as you complete newer areas?

If that isn't happening then maybe my map is bugged? I see tons of new phones and stuff after I already cleared several areas.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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ok, do new phones, echoes, etc unlock in older areas as you complete newer areas?

If that isn't happening then maybe my map is bugged? I see tons of new phones and stuff after I already cleared several areas.

it's a hq perk.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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it's a hq perk.

no, i had the perk, went around to various areas and picked up the phones and stuff, and then did some quests and now there are more phones and stuff in the same areas I already cleared of phones and stuff.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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did my first daily, solo. the times square one. wow that was rough, but I didn't die at all!
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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the majority of vendors are pretty much useless. they have essentially all green stuff, some blues and maybe a purple here and there. clearly they don't scale with the character as you level up
 

XavierMace

Diamond Member
Apr 20, 2013
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crafted the vector last night. with all purple mods it's only at 65k DPS. wtf?

My actual stats are 51k/52k/13k. One of my purples has the final stat only, which for my intentions is sub-optimal. I'm using a level 27 Socom Scar-L that has 4937 damage, so that can definitely be upgraded. My mods are pretty crappy as well - I hit 30 a few hours before posting my message.

Keep in mind your gear affects your DPS, for optimal DPS you want to make sure everything is working together. Having a holster that does +Marksman rifle damage does nothing for you if you're running an SMG. Since those bonuses are to damage, that makes a pretty substantial difference on DPS.

Also keep in mind not all weapon mods are equal even at the same quality. I've got a HE (Gold) Mag, +103% Capacity +13% Weapon Damage. That mag alone adds like 25k DPS to my M4.

Last but not least, keep in mind level doesn't tell you the whole story in why some people seem to be much better off.



That's mostly AT people. TerminatorSVT is exdeath, Aceramic is Pandasaurus. That 120 hours TerminatorSVT has on me is pretty much all farming time so obviously he's got substantially better gear at this point. Case in point, TerminatorSVT/exdeath's loadout:

 
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pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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the majority of vendors are pretty much useless. they have essentially all green stuff, some blues and maybe a purple here and there. clearly they don't scale with the character as you level up
I find vendor stuff is very expensive too. In the earlier parts of the game money is hard to come by as well.
 
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