Tommy Lee is cursed...can you believe this?!?

nomoredough

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First his old singer kills a guy, then he's out of the band, then his wife leaves him...You'd think that a guy that has "everything" could stop hitting women and stay sober enough to watch kids swimming in his pool.

Great drummer, just not great judgement.
 

Isla

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I saw that.

The first thing I thought was...

What kind of parent lets their 4 year old kid go to a party at Tommy Lee's... I know he has kids, but um, I would not be letting my kids play with his kids.

Sad, but not surprising considering Tommy Lee is not exactly Mr Rogers.
 

SSP

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Saw this in News. A kid died in his pool on his son's Bday party I think. Sorry, no linky... too lazy.
 

nomoredough

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It was brutal...a little kid drowned in his pool at a b-day party for his son...I don't have kids, but I'm not sure I'd send them to TommyLand...


 

Viper GTS

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The boy's father, James Veres, a television producer, told a local radio station Sunday that more people should have been hired to supervise the children and called his son's death "inexcusable."

Sorry, but I disagree. You made the choice to leave him there, YOU should have questioned the supervision.

Viper GTS
 

OrByte

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4 years old! I could not just let anyone supervise my child at that age. My daughter is almost 3, man I have so much to worry about as do all parents.

Was there anyone supervising these kids?, a four year old in a swimming pool and no one watching? Damn that is a tough pill to swallow for those people.
 

nomoredough

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Viper is right on the money...if you're gonna leave your 4 year old at a rock star's house...who, God Bless Him, has a taste for partying, you have to be accountable. I really don't think this one is Tommy's fault...I mean, would you leave your little kid at Ozzy's barbecue???
 

UberNeuman

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I wonder if he'll come out with a song about it ala Eric Clapton. "The kid in the pool".
 

Pretender

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LOL, I first heard about this one on the Howard Stern show this morning.


BTW, want to hear something interesting? The parents were THERE AT THE PARTY when the kid drowned. The parents need to get their head/sobriety/urine tested.
 

GL

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<< Found One

The boy's father, James Veres, a television producer, told a local radio station Sunday that more people should have been hired to supervise the children and called his son's death &quot;inexcusable.&quot;

Sorry, but I disagree. You made the choice to leave him there, YOU should have questioned the supervision.

Viper GTS
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There's an assumed level of responsibility of the host, on the part of the party-goer (<-edited this...didn't make sense before). You wouldn't question beforehand what sort of fire prevention methods were in place before a party, and yet surprisingly there are quite a bit of accidents at parties involving fire. We make a surprising amount of assumptions and place our property and loved ones in the supervision of others based on these assumptions because they are usually right - they are usually based on what reasonable people would do. But every so often an unreasonable person comes along to make an idiot out of the person who made a perfectly normal assumption and people point fingers at this &quot;idiot&quot; rather than the true dumb one - the person that couldn't follow what your average reasonable person would do.

It's easy to point fingers at the parents in this situation but there's not one parent on these forums that hasn't had an accident with their young one. Most are lucky that the accident didn't result in serious damage - and I wouldn't say that all of these parents are unreasonable or irresponsible.

I highly doubt Tommy Lee was even supervising this party as celebs usually pay people to take care of their young ones since they throw large parties. In this situation it's evident there wasn't enough supervision. The responsibility lies in Tommy Lee as the host of the party to provide a safe environment, and he didn't do so by not ensuring enough supervision. But I wouldn't doubt the overworked, understaffed child care workers will get the blame by Mr. Lee's lawyers.

edit Let me elaborate on this because I too, based on what I know of Tommy Lee, would not let my kids near the house. But the fact of the matter is none of us know Tommy Lee. We know &quot;Tommy Lee&quot; a creation of some P.R. firm's imagination. My brother works in the entertainment industry and let me tell you that nobody really knows celebrities. Some of the industry's angels, praised for their high morals are sometimes the most immoral people - and of course vice versa. There are some people who the media portray to be bad and who live up this reputation that you'd actually prefer to the previously-mentioned group.
 

JaiKnight

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Poor kid I wonder if he even knew how to swim, I hope his parents didn't just put him in and think he would float...kids that age usually have those floater wings don't they?
 

Bozo Galora

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There were 15 children and 25 adults at the &quot;pool party&quot;. A paid &quot;Nanny&quot; was there to supervise the children.
The child drowned in the &quot;shallow&quot; end.
 

thedarkwolf

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I don't care how many life guards or whatever are around you don't put a 4 year old in a pool and then just wonder off. Parents should have been there watching him.
 

GL

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So when parents bring their kids to swimming lessons should they not trust the supervision there and go in the pool with their kids? People be reasonable. You can cast the first stone now, but I'm sure many of you would have done the same (and probably have).
 

Red Dawn

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They should have hired a Clown instead. If the Children are only 4 they really are a bit too young to be having a pool party.
 

Bozo Galora

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tv news just played the 911 call tommy lee made. Man he sounded calm as a cucumber. Not a hint of stress. Then when the emergency girl said they (two adults) shouldn't be pumping the kids chest while he was vomiting, tommy said &quot;its not my fsking problem, its their fsking problem&quot;.
What a dick. (No pun intended)
 
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