We got a SCOTUS that just voted along party lines to deny 60 Million workers their right to sue, but we are supposed to focus on what a court in the UK is doing instead?
Considering the amount of money in the court system, and how innocent people can get sent to jail over public opinion, I support similar rules of engagement for media outlets commenting on ongoing trials in USA
Though he did get a lawyer - the one on duty at the time, if not his usual one. A perfectly good one, apparently, not one of those US ones who fall asleep during some poor black fellow's death-penalty trial.
Well in this case even the judge in his statement doubted that he was "reporting" so he wouldn't be considered a media outlet.
Yep, i was kinda joking with the fake news. I recently watched a show about how people have been found guilty for crimes. In one, prosecutors had virtually no evidence, all circumstantial, yet the media had swayed public opinion so far that the trial was not fair, but the judge basically said his feels are so accurate that it's fine to not move the trial to a different district.
It is even crazier what some prosecutors will do to obtain convictions of people they know or have very good reason to believe are innocent. Even crazier is that a person can serve a decade or more in jail until it is proven that the prosecutor criminally withheld evidence, committed perjury or a slew of other crimes and there is zero accountability. They are never and I highly doubt will ever in my lifetime be charged for their criminal activity when we can absolutely prove that they knowingly did it.
Even more that you don't hear about are the cases where prosecutors get people they know probably didn't commit the crime to take a plea deal to get a "win". It isn't that hard to do either when offering someone a plea deal of 5 years and then threatening them that if they lose at trial they will push for the maximum of 40 or 50 years. How in the hell can you in one breath say that 5 years is sufficient to get justice but in the next you say that if you dare try to prove yourself innocent then 40 or 50 years is required for justice to be served? So you can either take 5, out in 3, or roll the dice with a public defender and end up spending the rest of your non-elderly adult life in prison.
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't he be allowed to have his own counsel?
I find the idea of elected judiciary ludicrous.
From the account I read, his normal lawyer was simply busy elsewhere, and I guess there are limits as to how long such a hearing can be delayed when it's a case of someone breaking the terms of an existing suspended sentence (rather than a whole new trial).
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Tommy Robinson was charged because he dared to speak the truth, media are at courthouses all the time yet when he goes there is a problem?
I'm sure that your mother still loves you.
Tommy Robinson was charged because he dared to speak the truth, media are at courthouses all the time yet when he goes there is a problem?
I guess I'm just used to the US system, we don't mind throwing people in cells for however long until everything can be done "right". Some people sit in jail for well over a year waiting for their trial because they can't afford bail. Letting this asshole sit in holding for a day or two before handing down a jail sentence and then censoring the media so he could have his own attorney present doesn't sound unreasonable.
UK has been going down the shitter for while, Sweden is hot on it's trail. Letting a man go who repeatedly sexually abused a 11 year old girl go because his wife doesn't speak English is a great thing to do.
The fact that people are defending these "grooming" aka rape gangs, is pretty pathetic. I really shouldn't be surprised that people here are, or that they are blaming someone for bringing it to light. Funny that the same people arguing that he was on probation and should not have done it, have argued against the exact same thing when the story is different. The argument should be how horrible that this is happening. But eh, fuck the kids right? Oh wait, this isn't a mass shooting thread, we don't care about kids in this thread?
UK has been going down the shitter for while, Sweden is hot on it's trail. Letting a man go who repeatedly sexually abused a 11 year old girl go because his wife doesn't speak English is a great thing to do.
The fact that people are defending these "grooming" aka rape gangs, is pretty pathetic. I really shouldn't be surprised that people here are, or that they are blaming someone for bringing it to light. Funny that the same people arguing that he was on probation and should not have done it, have argued against the exact same thing when the story is different. The argument should be how horrible that this is happening. But eh, fuck the kids right? Oh wait, this isn't a mass shooting thread, we don't care about kids in this thread?
^^ ignorant bubble continues.
He's jeopardizing the trial with his actions. I'm not entirely sure why this is so difficult for some to grasp.
The charges are completely insane, media records at courthouses all the time and its never been a problem.
He was arrested and sentenced in the same day with no access to a lawyer and had his rights violated.
The rape gangs were able to operate and the police never arrested them for fear of racism and political correctness thanks to scumbag leftists such as umbrella. Tommy helped to expose them and they get a trial with lawyers.
England is being destroyed and its pathetic many on here don't seem to mind.
If you violate probation or parole in the US you're automagically going to jail. Just say buh-bye. For how long depends on the violation & the jurisdiction.
What happened here is that the right wing snowflakes got their bullshit out front because of the ban on press coverage of Robinson in the UK. It's their standard conspiracy theory outrage schtick. Officialdom couldn't say anything until that was lifted. It only took a day but they went wild in the meanwhile.
Really? There isn't some sort of hearing or something at which you are allowed to have counsel? It just seems like that is something that could be abused if all they have to do is say you violated probation and you go straight to serving your jail sentence without even being allowed to consult with your attorney first. Sure you can talk to him once you are in jail but we all know how slow the justice system is to release innocent people. If you are in for 18 months you are far more likely to be released from serving your sentence then your lawyer having proof that you didn't do shit on day one of your incarceration.
Edit: Not denying the snowflake part, looks like this guy clearly violated terms of his probation. Just curious about a few things is all.
Really? There isn't some sort of hearing or something at which you are allowed to have counsel? It just seems like that is something that could be abused if all they have to do is say you violated probation and you go straight to serving your jail sentence without even being allowed to consult with your attorney first. Sure you can talk to him once you are in jail but we all know how slow the justice system is to release innocent people. If you are in for 18 months you are far more likely to be released from serving your sentence then your lawyer having proof that you didn't do shit on day one of your incarceration.
Edit: Not denying the snowflake part, looks like this guy clearly violated terms of his probation. Just curious about a few things is all.
The fact that people are defending these "grooming" aka rape gangs, is pretty pathetic. I really shouldn't be surprised that people here are, or that they are blaming someone for bringing it to light. Funny that the same people arguing that he was on probation and should not have done it, have argued against the exact same thing when the story is different. The argument should be how horrible that this is happening. But eh, fuck the kids right? Oh wait, this isn't a mass shooting thread, we don't care about kids in this thread?