What most people do with their tablets? Browsing internet, reading books/documents, Angry Birds, etc. Nothing complicated.So what exactly are you gonna do with it ? There has to be some sort of differentiation for it to sell, or do you think "Intel inside" will sell it for you, mind you the other components will also have to be upto scratch !
It doesn't make sense to compare price of FonePad in India with price of Nexus 7 in USA. Just check prices of Nexus 7 in India. Usually entry level 16GB model (without 3G and SD) is priced higher than FonePadThere is a ~100$ price difference(at most) in these two devices, does that make'em similarly priced ?
So you expect me to come to UK & order one of these ?
The other components, besides the processor, will make a greater difference. Can you honestly expect everything to be "that good" if the processor is cutting into the margins of an OEM ?What most people do with their tablets? Browsing internet, reading books/documents, Angry Birds, etc. Nothing complicated.
The nexus 7 was only introduced last month IIRC, I dunno why but they're price gouging on that device & btw nexus 10 is still officially not launched in India. A fair comparison would be in places where the nexus device was available at launch time & likewise for the FonePad.It doesn't make sense to compare price of FonePad in India with price of Nexus 7 in USA. Just check prices of Nexus 7 in India. Usually entry level 16GB model (without 3G and SD) is priced higher than FonePad
Yes I can see where you're going with this but I'd like to know how many of these sell in the real marketplace ? If this was a niche market then Intel would do better by going after the likes of an S4 class phone which actually makes money, in this range its all about volumes & I don't see any data that these vanilla test products are selling even remotely close to say a nexus 7.There is a world outside of the USA, you know. :\ See also the Lexington/YOLO phone: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6601/hands-on-with-intels-lexington-platform-z2420-phone
The other components, besides the processor, will make a greater difference. Can you honestly expect everything to be "that good" if the processor is cutting into the margins of an OEM ?
The nexus 7 was only introduced last month IIRC, I dunno why but they're price gouging on that device & btw nexus 10 is still officially not launched in India. A fair comparison would be in places where the nexus device was available at launch time & likewise for the FonePad.
I'm just comparing the lowest price for these devices worldwide, yes its a bit silly bu then there are so many factors that are involved(even in a single market) that its hard to do any meaningful price equation.
Fair enough but in the long run the sales numbers is what'll matter in the end, even after discounting the fact that it'll be nearly a year since Nexus 7 was launched that device is still selling like hotcakes.At least according to available FonePad reviews there are no compromises on quality of components. Good screen (if not better then in Nexus 7), long lasting battery, good call quality, good build quality.
Conversely the nexus devices are ridiculously expensive everywhere else :\
Temash tablets will run full fledged Win8-x64.Likewise for me but, seeing the price bracket it sits in, a full blown linux will hardly be usable on it.
There were reports that Intel would be making those idle fabs available for use by other major chipmakers, is it true ? That'll give them potentially billions in revenue & profits also securing a future revenue stream so personally I feel that'd be a smart move !
I'm assuming that the AMD based tablets would run Android, but even if they are not supposed to who'll make money(for Intel) in that 200$ & still be able to run a full fledged linux OS on a tablet ?Temash tablets will run full fledged Win8-x64.
BayTrail is x86-64 competitor to Temash.
So why would a full blown linux be hardly usable in it?
Only this time the enemy of their enemy is also their enemy, I don't see any other ARM vendor being given a free pass just to screw Qualcomm D:Well, Intel will only allow its fabs to companies that do not hurt its bread and butter. Its current disclosed clientele of Altera (FPGA), Netronome (networking) and Cisco (networking) do not compete with Intel's MPU/CPU/SOC (yet) and hence will bring only rewards and little risk.
Any ARM based SOC manufacturer will be a non-starter unless Intel specifically choses someone so as to provide them a leg-up.
Right now Intel's competitor (per Intel's own words a year/two back) is not AMD but Qualcomm. And to answer their paranoia, the market cap of QCM and Intel are now comparable (betn Nov12 to Mar13 there were times that QCM was valued more). So if Intel is unable to get anywhere in mobile x86 and it wants to screw Qualcomm, only then it will allow a QCM competitor to fab chips at its fabs..
I hope this gives AMD a kick in its arse as to not limit its tablets to Windows and think about actively supporting Android eco-system.http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Haswell-Bay-Trail-Dadi-Parlmutter-Windows-8-Atom,news-43736.html
Sounds like Intel is copying the AMD Bobcat strategy- using their low power part in ultra-budget notebooks and desktops.
From all indications including a one on one with AMD CEO Rory in the Morgan Stanley Tech conference in March 2013, it seems RR is still believing (in my opinion foolishly) on Windows to be successful over Android.I'm assuming that the AMD based tablets would run Android, but even if they are not supposed to who'll make money(for Intel) in that 200$ & still be able to run a full fledged linux OS on a tablet ?
I was specifically talking about the 200$ price range, anyways the surface RT/pro tablets will be probably in the range of 300$ & more so this supposed Intel offering will not be a direct competitor not to mention MS will actually push for its(Temash) adoption. Personally I feel that win8 from MS is better than Android especially for a tablet & performs much better, on similar/limited hardware, than Android. The thing with Intel & MS now is that neither of them can afford each other in the low margin, high volume business(smartphones/tablets) where most of the growth is coming from !From all indications including a one on one with AMD CEO Rory in the Morgan Stanley Tech conference in March 2013, it seems RR is still believing (in my opinion foolishly) on Windows to be successful over Android.
Unfortunately that webcast is not available
http://cc.talkpoint.com/morg007/022513a_mc/?entity=126_6W1Y5HO
You can't really directly compare performance on old Atom netbooks vs. Android machines.
The overhead requirements for Windows 7 Starter are huge. I have Windows 7 Home on a dual-core 1.8 GHz Atom D525, nVidia ION, and SSD, and it still feels quite slow. As far as I'm concerned, Windows 7 Starter on single-core Atom was unusable, which is why pretty much all netbooks sucked.
OTOH, a similarly clocked single-core Atom on Android apparently feels decently fast. Dual-core Atom would absolutely scream on Android.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/...ase_N2805_N2810_and_N2910_ULV_processors.html
These aren't leaving much change out of $200...
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/...ase_N2805_N2810_and_N2910_ULV_processors.html
These aren't leaving much change out of $200...