Tonight's 24 Episode 12-09-2003...[Spoilers Inside, You have been warned!]

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EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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wtf...I don't get it, exactly what do the tattoos represent? other than that, another great ep
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: KraziKid
Holy plot twist batman.
I think the writers of 24 just blew their load.

Never saw that coming... they're good ... almost as good as Alias' writers.
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Holy plot twist batman.
I think the writers of 24 just blew their load.

Never saw that coming... they're good ... almost as good as Alias' writers.

I think I may have blown a load . As said, Gayelle is a triple agent, sweet.
 

WhiteKnight

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May 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Babbles
Holy cow!!

Guile is a double, wait triple agent and Jack. . . WTF?

Guile would be a double agent. The Salazars think he is spying for them on CTU when in fact he is spying for CTU on the Salazars. For him to be a triple agent, he would have to be actually spying on CTU (CTU thinks he is a double agent).
 

PowerMacG5

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Originally posted by: WhiteKnight
Originally posted by: Babbles
Holy cow!!

Guile is a double, wait triple agent and Jack. . . WTF?

Guile would be a double agent. The Salazars think he is spying for them on CTU when in fact he is spying for CTU on the Salazars. For him to be a triple agent, he would have to be actually spying on CTU (CTU thinks he is a double agent).

No, a double agent is if he worked for CTU, and the Salazar's thought he was helping him. He is a triple agent because he is a worker for CTU, bought by the Salazars, who is playing the Salazar's.
 

WhiteKnight

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May 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: KraziKid
Originally posted by: WhiteKnight
Originally posted by: Babbles
Holy cow!!

Guile is a double, wait triple agent and Jack. . . WTF?

Guile would be a double agent. The Salazars think he is spying for them on CTU when in fact he is spying for CTU on the Salazars. For him to be a triple agent, he would have to be actually spying on CTU (CTU thinks he is a double agent).

No, a double agent is if he worked for CTU, and the Salazar's thought he was helping him. He is a triple agent because he is a worker for CTU, bought by the Salazars, who is playing the Salazar's.

But isn't that what he is doing (the double agent thing?) On the first level, he works for CTU. On the second level, he is supposedly spying for the Salazars. This would make him just a regular spy. On the third level, it turns out that he is actually working for CTU, thus making him a double agent. For him to be a triple agent, there would have to be a fourth level, with the end result being that he is spying on CTU for the Salazars.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Babbles
I found that first fifteen minutes to be pretty intense.

missed the 1st 15 min..what happened!?

and i thoguht chloe was jack's secretary? what is her rank/title???

and yes, Holy Plot Twists BATMAN!!!
 

isasir

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Tony went from the hospital to CTU faster than it took me to take a crap!
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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Wow didn't see that sh!t coming. Can't wait for next week when they actually explain how that sh!t works though. But the whole Tony getting shot in the neck is just horsesh!t though. He wouldn't even wake up that fast from minor general anesthesia, much less a heavy dosage for surgery.

But this is 24 where everything can happen
 

TheToOTaLL

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Oct 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: RishiS
Tony went from the hospital to CTU faster than it took me to take a crap!

No sh][t! Almost like women in the olden days poping out a baby after lunch, and then heading to the kitchen to make dinner!

Sorry, had to use that one since my wife will be having our baby day after tomorrow. She'll have to stay there for at least 24 hours after he's born!

That was definately a plot twist I didn't see coming....
 

LocutusX

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my completely wild guess is... both Tony and Gael (correct spelling as per "closed captions") aren't really CTU agents, they're both working for CIA (both have Langley connections - Tony tried to get a job there in e01 and Gael is former CIA, already explained) and those 2 plus Jack have some secret plan they're in the midst of hatching... which involves bringing down the entire Salazar clan, not just one brother.

well, maybe they all are CTU, but in this case they're doing something for CIA. don't think CTU has jurisdiction outside of US, so must be CIA territory. then again, its a fake agency so who knows.

and wtf... where's Zim.... this thread sucks without Zim.

BTW: The fact that its a CIA operation might explain why Chappelle had no idea WTF was going on. so i'll stick with my little theory. Since Season 1, Chapelle has always been Top Dog at CTU so its a bit strange that he'd be in the dark on such a major operation. But if its a CIA op, he's not really a participant.

So i guess the whole bioterror threat thing was a trick?
 

TheToOTaLL

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Originally posted by: LocutusX
my completely wild guess is... both Tony and Gael (correct spelling as per "closed captions") aren't really CTU agents, they're both working for CIA (both have Langley connections - Tony tried to get a job there in e01 and Gael is former CIA, already explained) and those 2 plus Jack have some secret plan they're in the midst of hatching... which involves bringing down the entire Salazar clan, not just one brother.

well, maybe they all are CTU, but in this case they're doing something for CIA. don't think CTU has jurisdiction outside of US, so must be CIA territory. then again, its a fake agency so who knows.

and wtf... where's Zim.... this thread sucks without Zim.

BTW: The fact that its a CIA operation might explain why Chappelle had no idea WTF was going on. so i'll stick with my little theory. Since Season 1, Chapelle has always been Top Dog at CTU so its a bit strange that he'd be in the dark on such a major operation. But if its a CIA op, he's not really a participant.

So i guess the whole bioterror threat thing was a trick?

I can definately see that - especially with Chappelle being in the dark, and the bio threat. I wonder if Salazar killing his lawyer in episode 1 was a part of it too.....

 

calpha

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Best episode in a looooong time. Let's hope they don't do another amnesia ep. this year.

Definitely did not see it coming that Gayelle was a triple agent. Too bad he didn't kill kim. And now dumb fvck chase is gonna go down there & Jack's gonna have to kill him, but he won't b/c Kim loves him and Jack will try to save him instead for his daughter.
(Gayelle)
1. CTU
2. Salz @ CTU
3. CTU Knows he's working for the Salz

 

Babbles

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If it is a CIA plot, which sounds reasonable, then why was there that conversation with President Palmer and Jack, where Jack tells the President about his plan to free Salazar? Meaning that if it was indeed a CIA plot, the President would or should have approved it beforehand, so that phone call about what's happening would be unnecesary.

They did one big plot twist and I am quite pleased with it.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: LocutusX
my completely wild guess is... both Tony and Gael (correct spelling as per "closed captions") aren't really CTU agents, they're both working for CIA (both have Langley connections - Tony tried to get a job there in e01 and Gael is former CIA, already explained) and those 2 plus Jack have some secret plan they're in the midst of hatching... which involves bringing down the entire Salazar clan, not just one brother.

well, maybe they all are CTU, but in this case they're doing something for CIA. don't think CTU has jurisdiction outside of US, so must be CIA territory. then again, its a fake agency so who knows.

and wtf... where's Zim.... this thread sucks without Zim.

BTW: The fact that its a CIA operation might explain why Chappelle had no idea WTF was going on. so i'll stick with my little theory. Since Season 1, Chapelle has always been Top Dog at CTU so its a bit strange that he'd be in the dark on such a major operation. But if its a CIA op, he's not really a participant.

So i guess the whole bioterror threat thing was a trick?

Why would the CIA care about what a bunch of Mexican drug lords do?
 

TheToOTaLL

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: LocutusX
my completely wild guess is... both Tony and Gael (correct spelling as per "closed captions") aren't really CTU agents, they're both working for CIA (both have Langley connections - Tony tried to get a job there in e01 and Gael is former CIA, already explained) and those 2 plus Jack have some secret plan they're in the midst of hatching... which involves bringing down the entire Salazar clan, not just one brother.

well, maybe they all are CTU, but in this case they're doing something for CIA. don't think CTU has jurisdiction outside of US, so must be CIA territory. then again, its a fake agency so who knows.

and wtf... where's Zim.... this thread sucks without Zim.

BTW: The fact that its a CIA operation might explain why Chappelle had no idea WTF was going on. so i'll stick with my little theory. Since Season 1, Chapelle has always been Top Dog at CTU so its a bit strange that he'd be in the dark on such a major operation. But if its a CIA op, he's not really a participant.

So i guess the whole bioterror threat thing was a trick?

Why would the CIA care about what a bunch of Mexican drug lords do?

Go rent "A Man Apart" with Vin Diesel - this story line is somewhat similar to it.

Ever heard the saying "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" ?
 

Supermercado

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I suppose it's possible that Tony is doing something for the CIA, but CTU is part of the CIA, I'm pretty sure. I'm fairly certain that that was in the book about the legal proceedings following the first episode.

All I know is that I'm quite thoroughly confused after watching tonight's episode.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: TheToOTaLL
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: LocutusX
my completely wild guess is... both Tony and Gael (correct spelling as per "closed captions") aren't really CTU agents, they're both working for CIA (both have Langley connections - Tony tried to get a job there in e01 and Gael is former CIA, already explained) and those 2 plus Jack have some secret plan they're in the midst of hatching... which involves bringing down the entire Salazar clan, not just one brother.

well, maybe they all are CTU, but in this case they're doing something for CIA. don't think CTU has jurisdiction outside of US, so must be CIA territory. then again, its a fake agency so who knows.

and wtf... where's Zim.... this thread sucks without Zim.

BTW: The fact that its a CIA operation might explain why Chappelle had no idea WTF was going on. so i'll stick with my little theory. Since Season 1, Chapelle has always been Top Dog at CTU so its a bit strange that he'd be in the dark on such a major operation. But if its a CIA op, he's not really a participant.

So i guess the whole bioterror threat thing was a trick?

Why would the CIA care about what a bunch of Mexican drug lords do?

Go rent "A Man Apart" with Vin Diesel - this story line is somewhat similar to it.

Ever heard the saying "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" ?

Yes I've heard that saying. (It was in Blade, probably in a few other movies too) A Man Apart sucked ass from what I heard.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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And why would the CIA tell the President anything?

obviously, if the president knew, then jack and palmer wouldnt have had that conversation. and the president wouldnt have given the ok to shoot jack down.

or jack and gayelle are both triple agents working for the mexicans and $50M. they conned Tony into believing about the bio threat to get aboard. but when his usefullness was over, they tried to kill him. and how the heck does a bullet thru the neck not SERIOUSLY hurt someone?

the bullet missed 2 major veins, windpipe + spinal cord when it went thru the neck???!
 

NeoV

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Apr 18, 2000
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The Salazar's are Columbian, they only recently got that place in Mexico to be closer to the captured brother and plan his escape...

Why would the CIA want Jack back in with the Salazar's? Is there some other threat that we don't yet know about?
 
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