Tonight's SEASON FINALE Episode Of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles [04-10-2009]...

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lupi

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holy crap part quatro



wow, what the hell to think now. they bypass the hole judgment day happening with him showing up and instantly meets up with derek, kyle, and cameron. omg my head's spinning.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Why does that woman (liquid) terminator not kill John Conar?

I missed a couple episodes.

we've been thinking there are 2 or 3 factions of metal and she was part of one opposed to at least some of skynets principles.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: lupi
holy crap part quatro



wow, what the hell to think now. they bypass the hole judgment day happening with him showing up and instantly meets up with derek, kyle, and cameron. omg my head's spinning.

It's almost like they went with the Terminator 3 ending and theme in that everything's going to happen no matter what. Looks like he showed up when he was suppose to in order to do everything.

Otherwise, it's an alternate timeline, and season 3 will have him being sent back to keep going after Skynet. Cameron was the reason he went with the T1000, but she's right there. Weird shit. The writers probably wrote this as a pseudo-finale given the death slot and ratings. What an awesome show.
 

lupi

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one of the coolest things, there was a couple slow shows in the middle of the season, but as i said then each was revealing a clue or plot point either overtly of hidden just out of sight. In this episode all types of them came flying back into the action.

damn damn damn

would love to be watching an episode next week.
 

lupi

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ah something I hadn't thought before that I just read on another show review, the cameron of the future might not be cameron, that probably was still her as human.
 

13Gigatons

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Probably going to get canceled since it was called the Sarah Connor chronicles and she gets left behind.
 

imported_Imp

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Small thing bothering me. Why did Weaver thave her "clothes" removed after time travelling... It's not like they were real clothes. Guess the same goes for Robert Patrick, but I can give him some leeway for the big liquid metal reveal. Ok, keeping with tradition then.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Originally posted by: lupi
ah something I hadn't thought before that I just read on another show review, the cameron of the future might not be cameron, that probably was still her as human.

Yeah, that is my impression as well. That was the human "Cameron," which we saw in an earlier episode courtesy of flashbacks. It might explain why he seems so attached to the cyborg version too.

Also, I am pretty sure that at least in the films, the resistance used dogs to identify the cyborg terminators. In this case, note that she was sitting next to the dog and it was not barking or acting unusual in any way.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: lupi
ah something I hadn't thought before that I just read on another show review, the cameron of the future might not be cameron, that probably was still her as human.

Reading comments on the episode now, you're right: the dog didn't go crazy. It probably is Allison, and this would explain his attachment to Cameron. Again, this is probably the end because Allison was born in 2009 (?), and Judgement day isn't late enough for her to get that much older. If John wasn't "meant" to get transported to the future as a teen, then he would be over 30 and borderline jailbaited.

By the way, was that the beginning of Judgment day? It was just a miniature hunter-killer attacking, but that's how it started in Terminator 3.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Imp
Small thing bothering me. Why did Weaver thave her "clothes" removed after time travelling... It's not like they were real clothes. Guess the same goes for Robert Patrick, but I can give him some leeway for the big liquid metal reveal. Ok, keeping with tradition then.

i'm guessing the leap causes liquid to go back go original or minimal form for at least some small amount of time.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Imp
Originally posted by: lupi
ah something I hadn't thought before that I just read on another show review, the cameron of the future might not be cameron, that probably was still her as human.

Reading comments on the episode now, you're right: the dog didn't go crazy. It probably is Allison, and this would explain his attachment to Cameron. Again, this is probably the end because Allison was born in 2009 (?), and Judgement day isn't late enough for her to get that much older. If John wasn't "meant" to get transported to the future as a teen, then he would be over 30 and borderline jailbaited.

By the way, was that the beginning of Judgment day? It was just a miniature hunter-killer attacking, but that's how it started in Terminator 3.

no way of knowing without more film, but no real indication that any one computer system had been that connected yet; JH and the brother were probably getting close but not there yet.
 

newnameman

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I thought this episode started a little slow, but damn it really picked up. Great finale. :thumbsup:
 

techs

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As I thought, a season finale that could double as a series finale.
It does seem to dovetail nicely into the upcoming movie. It is also possible the movie will dovetail into a continuation of the series with John having to come back to the present to achieve something that makes the movie possible.
I wonder if Fox is hoping the movie will give the show a boost and we will get another season.
It was a great epi.
 
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Originally posted by: lupi
ah something I hadn't thought before that I just read on another show review, the cameron of the future might not be cameron, that probably was still her as human.

That was my assumption.
 

lokiju

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Dammit! Power went out and interrupted the recording and half the recording was local news about the crazy storms we were having

Will have to watch on Hulu...
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Imp
Originally posted by: lupi
ah something I hadn't thought before that I just read on another show review, the cameron of the future might not be cameron, that probably was still her as human.

Reading comments on the episode now, you're right: the dog didn't go crazy. It probably is Allison, and this would explain his attachment to Cameron. Again, this is probably the end because Allison was born in 2009 (?), and Judgement day isn't late enough for her to get that much older. If John wasn't "meant" to get transported to the future as a teen, then he would be over 30 and borderline jailbaited.

By the way, was that the beginning of Judgment day? It was just a miniature hunter-killer attacking, but that's how it started in Terminator 3.

the HK was from the company that the Scot T-1000 (Weaver--I can never remember her name; just creepy pale scottish robot lady) blew up a few episodes back. It has been seen a few times this season, and by the same people that killed John's step-dad (2 episodes ago--love that water-delivery disguise. they show up anywhere disguised as water-delivery guys :laugh.

I'd doubt that had anything to do with judgement day.


but I was totally right! she was on the sub, and is trying to take down Skynet. this show better not end.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: lupi
ah something I hadn't thought before that I just read on another show review, the cameron of the future might not be cameron, that probably was still her as human.

yeah. they already had a 2-show story back in the fall with her being captured and the Cameron cyborg learning from her.
 

Agentbolt

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Awesome curveball that takes the series in an interesting direction: Check
Return of an interesting character: Check
Snowball's chance in hell of this series not getting cancelled: NON CHECK GOD DAMMIT

And seriously, HOW is anyone considering this a series finale? They answered a few big questions but left a million unanswered. I hate Fox sometimes
 

mchammer187

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This show is officially my #1 show now (replacing Lost which is now #2)

I really hope it doesnt get canceled
 

jdoggg12

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So I haven't read anything online about this, but here's my guess from what i've seen.

There are (at least) 2 factions of computers in the future. They are Skynet and John Henry. Here's how I kind of see it, never mind the limitations of causality and stuff with time travel...

-John/Sarah killed the original source of skynet (cyberdyne)... (this is recorded in future history and judgement day is inevitable, but the destruction is now part of history.)
-Since judgment day is inevitable, they keep hunting for AI
-2 AI's are created, one being skynet - which is very militaristic, the other john henry, which learns (initially) through casual human interaction with Ellison
-In the future these 2 factions are at war, though neither is necessarily on the human's side
-Skynet now sends units back to kill EITHER john or John Henry, since John Henry is essentially the Sarah Connor of this new faction
-Future John Henry sends the T1000 chick back in time to mold him into the "good" AI he becomes AND to protect John Connor from the slew of 800-series terminators that the "baby" skynet is throwing at everyone

This is all my guess... it makes sense. So the T1000 might have been asking John to join the John Henry faction to team up against skynet.


Whatcha think?
 
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