Tonight's Stargate Universe Episode [06-04-2010] - [Episode #0119. "Incursion."]...

[Zim Hosein]

Part 1 of 2. Col. Telford reveals a threat to the Destiny from the Lucian Alliance, prompting Gen. O'Neill to launch a preemptive attack on the foes' base.

Episode #0119. "Incursion."

 

[Newbian]

Smash the stones...that is except for one that only the original team can use.

 

[Kadarin]

Why are they even bothering with the Lucien Alliance? Weren't they just a generic villain put in to replace the System Lords in the final season of the original show?

Come on, they've got a ship stuck on the far end of the universe. Can't the writers come up with new and interesting aliens?

 

[techs]

Tonights episode was like a train wreck in slow motion.
If Eli and Chloe don't find something new in the ship, or the guy who disappeared turns out to be controlling the ship, then I just give up.

WTF was Young doing in the middle of the battle using the stones to cry on Oneills shoulder???

And why would the Lucian Alliance want to gate to ship they can't get off of, is falling apart and they can't control?
It makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!

 

[Bateluer]

Seems like SGU is a complete disaster. SyFy, get a grip.

 

[K1052]

or the guy who disappeared turns out to be controlling the ship

My money is on this. I think Franklin reduced that guy to a pile of ash using the shield somehow, probably also sent Eli and Chloe to that end of the ship for a reason.

 

[Imp]

You all saw it already? Still got 10 minutes left here.

 

[silverpig]

Yeah lame. Why the hell didn't they just have the gate room pre-vacuumed? Or at least have it with low enough atmosphere that the people would be alive but incapacitated. Think top of Everest levels.

Make everyone pass out, run in and grab Telford, take all their guns, then either put them in prison or space them all.

At least they should have sealed off all the corridors AROUND the gate room and had those pre-vacuumed.

 

[techs]

After like 12 years and 200+ episodes of SG1 and 5 years of SGA and two movies I think the show owes something to its loyal viewers.
People who complain that if you don't like the show, shut up and don't watch should just diaf.

I will bitch and moan all I want to.

The show is basically a rip off of the Stargate name and mythology to present a show that is so different it should be sued for trademark infringement.

It is ludicrously bad in terms of presenting believable scenarios. The very fact a criminal organization would want to go to a ship stranded so far away, that is basically a death trap, and has yielded no useful info to the scientists who are already on, it makes no sense.

The idea that Young was venting the air to make Telford pass out and overcome the brainwashing might make sense. But, not telling anyone else why he was doing it, and that it was with superiors approval, was as ridiculous and contrived a scene as I have ever seen. The idea, would the crew revolt, was just b.s. and completely dumb and unecessary.

Heavily promoting guest starring roles by previous Stargate actors, and then mostly making them act completely different, plus adding NOTHING to the plot is another slap in the face for loyal fanbase.

It may sound like I have a grudge against the powers that be at Syfy, and I do.
The abrupt ending of SGA, the denial of a two hour epi the writers said they needed to write a decent finale, the cancellation of the movies, all tick me off.
And now the "bait and switch" with a show that has so little in common the Stargate franchise, AND is so poorly done, just pisses me off.

I am not a ratings expert, but from what I have read the ratings have been going down. In fact, SGU would be overjoyed to just have the ratings SGA had when it was cancelled.

One other thing, quickly. Rhona Mitra is completely wasted as a one dimensional, unbelievable, caricature of a criminal mastermind.

So, I say two and out for SGU. Let them find a way home next season. Any more of this drivel, and we will have to change its name to Stargate:Enterprise and have to get JJ Abrams to reboot the franchise.

 

[rstove02]

Any more of this drivel, and we will have to change its name to Stargate:Enterprise and have to get JJ Abrams to reboot the franchise.

Stargate:Lensflare Universe

 

[flashbacck]

Yeah lame. Why the hell didn't they just have the gate room pre-vacuumed? Or at least have it with low enough atmosphere that the people would be alive but incapacitated. Think top of Everest levels.

Make everyone pass out, run in and grab Telford, take all their guns, then either put them in prison or space them all.

At least they should have sealed off all the corridors AROUND the gate room and had those pre-vacuumed.

that makes far too much sense for this retarded show.

 

[lupi]

interesting ep. too bad they didn't just vent them at the beginning

the guy getting zapped by the shield was definitely a new thing. too bad the old place blew, would have been nice to have a supply source for the ship. and the no-countdown also is another new twist.

 

[techs]

interesting ep. too bad they didn't just vent them at the beginning

the guy getting zapped by the shield was definitely a new thing. too bad the old place blew, would have been nice to have a supply source for the ship. and the no-countdown also is another new twist.

Speculation is that the ship stopped someplace where the weak ass shield couldn't prevent the radiation leakage and is also responsible for the ships failure to go back into ftl. Perhaps near a pulsar or a nova.

 

[Kev]

colonel young is a god damn moron. He keeps making dumber and dumber decisions. His character annoys me so much that I think I might stop watching unless they kill him off.

 

[Jadow]

gay show

Too bad SG1 didn't get another season.

And O'neill needs to meet up with Jenny Craig

 

[Newbian]

I wonder how far TJ is in her real life pregnancy since she got huge between this and the last episode so they must had filmed them with a lot of time between.

 

[Wag]

Can't they just disable the gate from their side so they get no incoming incursions except when they want it? I could have sworn they must have disabled the gate a million times in SG-1 and Atlantis...

 

[Eug]

And now the "bait and switch" with a show that has so little in common the Stargate franchise

Err.. It's not as if the tone and approach of the show were top secret. If you didn't like it you should have stopped watching it a long time ago, since it's been like that since the first episode, and it was done intentionally.

Personally, I find it rather refreshing, even if it is in some ways a knockoff of the tone of Battlestar Galactica.

I am not a ratings expert, but from what I have read the ratings have been going down.

Correct.

In fact, SGU would be overjoyed to just have the ratings SGA had when it was cancelled.

No. The ratings of Stargate Atlantis were worse in season 5 than Stargate Universe. I'm not saying SGU has great ratings, but that SGA in its last season had worse.

 

[techs]

Can't they just disable the gate from their side so they get no incoming incursions except when they want it? I could have sworn they must have disabled the gate a million times in SG-1 and Atlantis...

In the other series you can only bury the gate to stop it from working.
You can also place a barrier very close to the event horizon that will prevent anything from reintegrating when it comes thru. In SG1 they used a titanium shield they raised when they want to keep others out. In SGA they use an energy field the ancients built into Atlantis.
They have no way to do it on Destiny. Though if they get control of the ship, there may be a mechanism in place to block the gate they could use from then on.

 

[techs]

Err.. It's not as if the tone and approach of the show were top secret. If you didn't like it you should have stopped watching it a long time ago, since it's been like that since the first episode, and it was done intentionally.

Personally, I find it rather refreshing, even if it is in some ways a knockoff of the tone of Battlestar Galactica.



Correct.


No. The ratings of Stargate Atlantis were worse in season 5 than Stargate Universe. I'm not saying SGU has great ratings, but that SGA in its last season had worse.

(actually SGA had better ratings then Universe has been getting during this "second" half of the first season.)
EDIT: Universe ratings can be found in this thread at Syfy:
http://forums.syfy.com/index.php?showtopic=2342845&st=420&start=420



First off SyFy continues to show previews that present the show as an action based space show. When in fact, its a mostly personality driven soap opera that happens to be set on a space ship.

Second, the writers and SyFy kept saying that they were trying to ADD a human dimension to Stargate and that the first episodes were merely to get us interested in the characters as people. Well, the primary focus of the show is basically the same as a soap opera. Not a space scifi drama.

Third, if they wanted to do something completely different they should not have named it Stargate. They cleary did so in an attempt to draw in prior Stargate viewers. They also use prior Stargate actors to hype the show. Why not name the show just "Destiny"

Fourth, the writers (and syfy) have gone out of their way to alienate Stargate fans. Just read what the writers have said about the fans.

Fifth, when the ratings started to plummet, suddenly the writers and syfy said they had made a mistake, and apoligized to the fans. They said they would take the show in a more Stargate direction. Then when they did so only barely, they once again criticized the fans. For not watching the show!

Sixth, SyFy is falling into a deep, deep hole. I think they had began to think they were better then they are. Remember that they have Dr. Who to thank as a major factor for their SciFriday success.

Lastly. What's left on SyFy? Eureka and Warehouse 13. Caprica? May be cancelled due to low ratings. Universe should be cancelled due to its ratings and cost. Only the Stargate name might save them for another year. The great yearly mini series have been dropped. Taken, the Lost Room and The O.Z. were pretty good. Now that seems to be gone too.

 

[Wag]

In the other series you can only bury the gate to stop it from working.
You can also place a barrier very close to the event horizon that will prevent anything from reintegrating when it comes thru. In SG1 they used a titanium shield they raised when they want to keep others out. In SGA they use an energy field the ancients built into Atlantis.
They have no way to do it on Destiny. Though if they get control of the ship, there may be a mechanism in place to block the gate they could use from then on.

Why not just place a movable barrier in front of the gate when they're not using it (something temporary on wheels maybe)? Seems from past experience that would be the first thing they'd want to do.

 

[techs]

Why not just place a movable barrier in front of the gate when they're not using it (something temporary on wheels maybe)? Seems from past experience that would be the first thing they'd want to do.

IIRC it needs to be precisely a certain distance away.
And that may not be possible by just putting something in front of it.

 

[silverpig]

IIRC it needs to be precisely a certain distance away.
And that may not be possible by just putting something in front of it.

Spikes.

Come flying through the gate -> impaled on spikes.

 

[lupi]

Speculation is that the ship stopped someplace where the weak ass shield couldn't prevent the radiation leakage and is also responsible for the ships failure to go back into ftl. Perhaps near a pulsar or a nova.

that was my first thought while watching, but unless they had a supernova parked just off the bow assuming that the leak lets in/out similar ratios of radiation and atmosphere for that much radiation to get through the room would have been near vacuum. the more i think about it the more i like the he who ascended is responsible theory.

 

[Eug]

(actually SGA had better ratings then Universe has been getting during this "second" half of the first season.)
EDIT: Universe ratings can be found in this thread at Syfy:
http://forums.syfy.com/index.php?showtopic=2342845&st=420&start=420

SGA got all of 1.5 for its series finale, and was significantly lower for the preceding episodes. That 1.5 was about what SGU had been averaging in the second half of its season, and the first half was significantly higher.

Personally I think SGA tanked after they got rid of Dr. Weir. The producers thought a fresh leader would pull up the ratings, but she was not the cause of the poor ratings. It was the show overall, and getting rid of Weir just made things worse.