Tonight's Stargate Universe Episode [10-09-2009]...

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techs

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Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Newbian
How far in the future is this show compared to around the end or SG1 or Atlantis in this time area?

Such as 5 years after the end or Atlantis or such.

Post Atlantis i could see it going something like this for a show end:

"Hey, remember when we ported atlantis right to earth instantly? Lets wait for them to drop out of warp, port atlantis in, rescue them, and return to earth with the ship as well. Oh yeah, now that we have the full resources of earth, we figured out how to make ZPMs and we chew them like candy!"

It would likely take a few months at minimum for Atlantis to reach Destiny. Keep in mind, judging by the first episode Destiny was some half-dozen or more GALAXIES away from the milkyway at least (they cut the scene short and didn't let it finish the plot). Pegasus was simply in our back yard, hence the short travel time of "a few hours".

I think though you're all taking this too literally. Just enjoy the show or don't watch it.

Ah. That might explain why they say Universe occurs before the end of SGA. If it occurred after then they would have Atlantis to fly out and retrieve the losties on Destiny
Universe takes place after Atlantis. Outside of the made-for-DVD movies, Stargate is set in real time, so it's 2009. Atlantis has been "home" for about a year now. Potentially it's no longer home since the Atlantis movie would be set soon after the finale, but we'll never know until they film the bloody thing.
I do remember seeing it somewhere that Universe would take place before the end of Atlantis. Whether it was speculation, or has been changed I don't know.
I do remember in the episode where the wraith stole the location of earth (the first time) and set off for earth and caldwell is asked to take his damaged x303 after it, it is mentioned there are no x303's available except his. He says (ships name) is on a mission so secret even he doesn't know what it is. And somewhere I read that was the ship that would be in the Universe plot, though the name was Hammond, it was assumed that was just because the writers chose to rename the ship for him.

It could also have changed since the expected to do an SGA movie and that Atlantis would end up back in Pegasus without enough ZPM's to go search for destiny.

 

Strk

Lifer
Nov 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Newbian
How far in the future is this show compared to around the end or SG1 or Atlantis in this time area?

Such as 5 years after the end or Atlantis or such.

Post Atlantis i could see it going something like this for a show end:

"Hey, remember when we ported atlantis right to earth instantly? Lets wait for them to drop out of warp, port atlantis in, rescue them, and return to earth with the ship as well. Oh yeah, now that we have the full resources of earth, we figured out how to make ZPMs and we chew them like candy!"

It would likely take a few months at minimum for Atlantis to reach Destiny. Keep in mind, judging by the first episode Destiny was some half-dozen or more GALAXIES away from the milkyway at least (they cut the scene short and didn't let it finish the plot). Pegasus was simply in our back yard, hence the short travel time of "a few hours".

I think though you're all taking this too literally. Just enjoy the show or don't watch it.

Ah. That might explain why they say Universe occurs before the end of SGA. If it occurred after then they would have Atlantis to fly out and retrieve the losties on Destiny
Universe takes place after Atlantis. Outside of the made-for-DVD movies, Stargate is set in real time, so it's 2009. Atlantis has been "home" for about a year now. Potentially it's no longer home since the Atlantis movie would be set soon after the finale, but we'll never know until they film the bloody thing.
I do remember seeing it somewhere that Universe would take place before the end of Atlantis. Whether it was speculation, or has been changed I don't know.
I do remember in the episode where the wraith stole the location of earth (the first time) and set off for earth and caldwell is asked to take his damaged x303 after it, it is mentioned there are no x303's available except his. He says (ships name) is on a mission so secret even he doesn't know what it is. And somewhere I read that was the ship that would be in the Universe plot, though the name was Hammond, it was assumed that was just because the writers chose to rename the ship for him.

It could also have changed since the expected to do an SGA movie and that Atlantis would end up back in Pegasus without enough ZPM's to go search for destiny.

Sun Tsu or something like that.

As far as the Hammond, that was just sort for thrown in there to acknowledge the actual actor (he passed away).
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: v1001
The episode needed way more content and to be speeded way the hell up. It barely kept me interested. And by the end I just kind of getting into it and felt something could come of it, then it ends. Bah. I'm sticking with it though.
When he saw the head in the sand I thought something interesting was going to happen. Then it was just an apparition.
Let down.

btw even more like bsg. Gotta find water, gotta find air, gotta find food. BSG season 1.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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The episode was ok. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and stick with it for the season, they will have to come to a point where they find everything they need off-world and the story will have to eventually move on to more interesting things.

Rush is really becoming one of those annoying characters you just wish bad things will happen to. Aside from that, they didn't reveal shit about his motives, just that he's a bigger douche bag than I initially thought.
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: darkxshade
The episode was ok. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and stick with it for the season, they will have to come to a point where they find everything they need off-world and the story will have to eventually move on to more interesting things.

Rush is really becoming one of those annoying characters you just wish bad things will happen to. Aside from that, they didn't reveal shit about his motives, just that he's a bigger douche bag than I initially thought.
When they came back thru the gate the Colonel asked what happened and Rush immediately answers "Greer shot him"


 

vudood

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: v1001
The episode needed way more content and to be speeded way the hell up. It barely kept me interested. And by the end I just kind of getting into it and felt something could come of it, then it ends. Bah. I'm sticking with it though.
When he saw the head in the sand I thought something interesting was going to happen. Then it was just an apparition.
Let down.

btw even more like bsg. Gotta find water, gotta find air, gotta find food. BSG season 1.

stop comparing sgu to bsg. i love bsg but bsg wasn't the first show where a group of people have to find water, air or food heh.
 

drnickriviera

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Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
28,561
4
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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
You would think SOMEWHERE there would be a book "How to build ZPM's for Dummies"

 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
You would think SOMEWHERE there would be a book "How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr Rodney McKay"

fixed
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
28,561
4
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
You would think SOMEWHERE there would be a book "How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr Rodney McKay"

fixed
McKays worst nightmare:
"How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr. Radek Zelenka "

btw here's McKay training his replacement:
http://www.adogsbreakfastmovie...stories/dadcompbaz.jpg


 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,130
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
You would think SOMEWHERE there would be a book "How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr Rodney McKay"

fixed
McKays worst nightmare:
"How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr. Radek Zelenka "

btw here's McKay training his replacement:
http://www.adogsbreakfastmovie...stories/dadcompbaz.jpg

hehe
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
28,561
4
0
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
You would think SOMEWHERE there would be a book "How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr Rodney McKay"

fixed
McKays worst nightmare:
"How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr. Radek Zelenka "

btw here's McKay training his replacement:
http://www.adogsbreakfastmovie...stories/dadcompbaz.jpg

hehe

I debated. Should I have said:
btw here's McKay breast feeding his replacement?


 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
You would think SOMEWHERE there would be a book "How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr Rodney McKay"

fixed
McKays worst nightmare:
"How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr. Radek Zelenka "

btw here's McKay training his replacement:
http://www.adogsbreakfastmovie...stories/dadcompbaz.jpg
Well it was Zelenka that actually got the wormhole drive working.
 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
28,561
4
0
Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Random though, but where is the Ori galaxy? Could universe be set in the ori galaxy? Easy way to add humanoids?

No. They already said that any "aliens" in the show would end up being truly "alien", likely far less humanoid than anything we've seen before.

(No bearing on SGU, but...)

My biggest gripe so far is that okay, humans have Atlantis, and the full collective knowledge of the Ancient database - and on earth no less. They ALSO have the Asgard Core, and the full collective knowledge of the Asgard. Also, canon states that Asgard hyperdrives are pretty much the most advanced in the universe (second only to the Atlantis city-drive, but that's only because that drive is so massive).

You'd think with all that tech at our disposal... just sayin.
You would think SOMEWHERE there would be a book "How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr Rodney McKay"

fixed
McKays worst nightmare:
"How to build ZPM's for Dummies by Dr. Radek Zelenka "

btw here's McKay training his replacement:
http://www.adogsbreakfastmovie...stories/dadcompbaz.jpg
Well it was Zelenka that actually got the wormhole drive working.
That's only because no one on the show, in the audience, or even McKay who was working on it, had ever heard of the super secret drive that would be introduced at the last minute to save the day.

 

WingZero94

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Um, did no one here watch the 'VERY' end of the show. A 'craft' of some type took off from the Destiny. WTF was that???
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: WingZero94
Um, did no one here watch the 'VERY' end of the show. A 'craft' of some type took off from the Destiny. WTF was that???

A craft of some kind.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: WingZero94
Um, did no one here watch the 'VERY' end of the show. A 'craft' of some type took off from the Destiny. WTF was that???

since you know as much as anyone else that watched we're waiting for you to tell us.
 

guyver01

Lifer
Sep 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: techs
At some point we will see the "big reveal" where we find out Rush's motivation, and it will surely be something that we can sympathize with.

My guess would be this happen in Episode 14..

14 "Human"
The episode focuses on Nicholas Rush (Carlyle), who risks his life in an experiment involving the ship's computer, and flashes back to the time when he was recruited into the Stargate Program. His now dead wife, Gloria Rush, will appear in these flashbacks, as will Michael Shanks as Daniel Jackson. This episode was originally entitled "Lucid".


 

techs

Lifer
Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: WingZero94
Um, did no one here watch the 'VERY' end of the show. A 'craft' of some type took off from the Destiny. WTF was that???

since you know as much as anyone else that watched we're waiting for you to tell us.
I've been "spoiled" about the craft. I can't say the source is reliable but I will say it's not what you think.

pm if you want to know.


btw interesting that they they chose to put the stones in the Pentagon and not Stargate Command.
Also, does anyone else feel RDA's character is kinda miscast? O'neill isn't the wisecracking, bewildered character he was in the other two series, and its just hard to see him in his new role.

And psycho Greer really had a good epi. I hated the character, and couldn't understand why the Air Force would assign him to such an important post. However, I am now thinking of him as sorta of a mix Steven Seagal in Under Seige, the good soldier who can't tolerate authority and Ronin, who shoots first, asks questions later. Greer's apparent liking of Eli really helped the character. I know see him as someone who values loyalty and courage, which Eli did at the gate.

Greer is going to be the "warrior" like Ronin and Tealc were.
Just like Eli and Rush are Dr. McKay split into two with each having part of his personality.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Wow. If they get all religion-y, like BSG did, I'm going to flip a bitch.

Ya, that's what bugged me about this Episode. Not so mu7ch the Priest/Catholic stuff, but the swirl of dust, Mystical discovery, and the whole Realtime dealing with past issues. What was great about SG1 and Atlantis was that they all Worked to get results. Some Mystical Force didn't deliver it to them.
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: manowar821
Wow. If they get all religion-y, like BSG did, I'm going to flip a bitch.

Ya, that's what bugged me about this Episode. Not so mu7ch the Priest/Catholic stuff, but the swirl of dust, Mystical discovery, and the whole Realtime dealing with past issues. What was great about SG1 and Atlantis was that they all Worked to get results. Some Mystical Force didn't deliver it to them.

Morgan le Fay did assist sandorski!
 
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