Tony Stewart killed a 20 year old dirt track driver....

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Attic

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I don't watch a lot of Sprint *car, but from highlights (crashes) I seem to always see drivers out of the car yelling at passing cars during the ensuing caution. Thought this was standard fare for these races.

Certainly the least surprising thing here would be the kid out of the car yelling at TS.
 
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xBiffx

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I don't watch a lot of Sprint Cup, but from highlights (crashes) I seem to always see drivers out of the car yelling at passing cars during the ensuing caution. Thought this was standard fare for these races.

Certainly the least surprising thing here would be the kid out of the car yelling at TS.

Obviously you don't watch a lot. This wasn't Sprint Cup. They are called sprint cars. Sprint Cup is the main event for NASCAR.

In case I am wrong in my interpretation, still no, this situation is still not common in sprint car or Sprint Cup racing.
 

xBiffx

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The only time you really see a driver exit their car quickly before safety crew is at the scene is when the driver's safety, by staying in the vehicle, is at risk such as a fire.
 

zerocool84

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Can some of you explain to me how you are coming to those conclusions from watching the YouTube video in the OP? It's literally impossible to see what is Tony Stewart is doing right before the person is hit.
 
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Can some of you explain to me how you are coming to those conclusions from watching the YouTube video in the OP? It's literally impossible to see what is Tony Stewart is doing right before the person is hit.
The fact you hear Tony goose the throttle and coming around the corner sideways during a caution might tip one off if they weren't retarded.
 

Attic

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Yea, meant sprint car, not cup. Watched the vid again, looks that Ward is just out of his mind here.

I don't think wrongful death suit makes sense here if Tony throttling to avoid. Ward was pretty far down on the track. Really I can't say much though with any certainty, i'm looking at video that for the most part shows the driver walking into oncoming traffic. I just can't really believe Ward is doing that, despite seeing him doing it. I kinda have to think he knows he is within safety distance, but appears that's not the case.

Part of what got me is the audio where video taker says, "Stewart hit him!", I drew some intent from that at first.
 
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zerocool84

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The fact you hear Tony goose the throttle and coming around the corner sideways during a caution might tip one off if they weren't retarded.
I don't understand where you're seeing that. He only turns once he hits the person, you only see him hit the person in the YouTube video because the video is on another driver right before. Sorry but you cannot see him doing anything right before he hits the person.
 

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The fact you hear Tony goose the throttle and coming around the corner sideways during a caution might tip one off if they weren't retarded.
Are you 100% certain that the car that revved was Tony's car, which was some distance away from the camera, and not a car that was nearer to the camera?
 

motsm

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Are you 100% certain that the car that revved was Tony's car, which was some distance away from the camera, and not a car that was nearer to the camera?
The eye witnesses seem to say it was Tony's car, but I'm not agreeing with OILFIELDTRASH by a long shot.
 

waggy

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The eye witnesses seem to say it was Tony's car, but I'm not agreeing with OILFIELDTRASH by a long shot.

have you been to a event like this? how anyone can pinpoint WHAT car revved is amazing to me.
 

xBiffx

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have you been to a event like this? how anyone can pinpoint WHAT car revved is amazing to me.

This. Even if it was Stewart that goosed the throttle, its not indicative of intent to hit the other driver.

I still think this ends in a guilty wrongful death verdict. Stewart's actions are still directly responsible for another person's death and that's all its about in a civil suit.
 
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This. Even if it was Stewart that goosed the throttle, its not indicative of intent to hit the other driver.
I don't think it was his intent at all. He's Johnny bad ass behind the wheel so he figures he'd give that kid a scare for even daring to say anything to the big bad wolf. Johnny bad ass lost control while he was trying to prove his point and killed a man. He should be held liable for his actions. He's wealthy, good looking, white, and famous so he'll just cut a check to the family and you toothless rednecks can go back to worshipping him soon enough.
 

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It looked like the other guy was obviously a terrorist and Stewart was just being a patriotic American.
 

waggy

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This. Even if it was Stewart that goosed the throttle, its not indicative of intent to hit the other driver.

I still think this ends in a guilty wrongful death verdict. Stewart's actions are still directly responsible for another person's death and that's all its about in a civil suit.

I don't see how they can find him guilty even in a wrongful death trial. Stewart was not directly responsible. the guy that got out of his car and into the path of oncoming racers is.
 

xBiffx

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I don't see how they can find him guilty even in a wrongful death trial. Stewart was not directly responsible. the guy that got out of his car and into the path of oncoming racers is.

Its a civil suit, it works different when all that's at stake is money. Especially when the pocket run so deep. I won't necessarily agree with that ruling but I'm still guessing that it ends up like this. You've already seen that hatred of Stewart is blinding people in regards to this incident.
 
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Hatred of Stewart? Don't know the guy except for the occasional commercial on tv. Haven't watched more than 5 minutes of NASCAR since I was 10 years old and decided it was below my still undeveloped intellect at 10 years of age.
 

xBiffx

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Hatred of Stewart? Don't know the guy except for the occasional commercial on tv. Haven't watched more than 5 minutes of NASCAR since I was 10 years old and decided it was below my still undeveloped intellect at 10 years of age.

Pretty conceited to think that was directed specifically at you. Every article out there, even linked here, with comments is filled with anti Stewart vitriol.

Yet you still decided to display your complete ignorance on the matter. Thanks for that information.
 

TallBill

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The fact you hear Tony goose the throttle and coming around the corner sideways during a caution might tip one off if they weren't retarded.

Oh really, you can tell which car was throttling? I didn't know that iphones had directional microphones.
 

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I've never driven a race car myself but if you see how these guys are strapped in they don't actually have the same kind of vision when driving a regular car. Pretty much straight ahead and that's it. It's quite possible he did not see him or could not react fast enough. What I find odd is why they did not issue a caution till he gets off the track. He probably should have tried to stay more towards the wall till everyone passes. Though I guess that is a risk too. Don't want to stay in the car either in case there's a gas leak and it explodes. Pretty sure Michal Bay designs race cars, they sure like to explode lol. Tough situation to be in and you don't have much time to react.

I don't really think anyone is guilty of anything here, this was just an accident. A bad one, but an accident nonetheless. It seems to always be human nature to want to blame someone and bring to justice when something happens.
 
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