Tony Stewart killed a 20 year old dirt track driver....

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MikeyLSU

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The video on liveleak shows Tony stopped just 10 seconds after the crash. The one thing that will really help Tony in this is that the blue car had to swerve to avoid this guy so it couldn't have been that easy to see him. He was crazy for getting on the track and paid the price. Sad.
 

Miramonti

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Someone can run into traffic in the middle of the highway, however that doesn't mean if I don't avoid him when I easily can, I'm not going to be found liable.

I think there is undisputable evidence Tony Stewart is guilty of being a douchebag, but that was clear before this race. I find the video inconclusive, even tho Stewart seems to be doing something antagonistic towards Ward. Imo it warrants a thorough investigation of all available videos, witness accounts, and other relevant information. I wouldn't rule out nor rule in homicide until I have a clearer picture of all the evidence and facts.
 

Remobz

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Someone can run into traffic in the middle of the highway, however that doesn't mean if I don't avoid him when I easily can, I'm not going to be found liable.

I think there is undisputable evidence Tony Stewart is guilty of being a douchebag, but that was clear before this race. I find the video inconclusive, even tho Stewart seems to be doing something antagonistic towards Ward. Imo it warrants a thorough investigation of all available videos, witness accounts, and other relevant information. I wouldn't rule out nor rule in homicide until I have a clearer picture of all the evidence and facts.

Tony will still be cleared. That is how things tend to work out most of the time.
 

Number1

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I would be more than happy to meet Stewart face to face and call him a fat fuck - because he is a fat fuck.

This applies to anyone and all on the internet.

Well, it did not turn out so well for the last guy who tried it, did it?

The "fat fuck" won I guess.
 

Newell Steamer

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Well, it did not turn out so well for the last guy who tried it, did it?

The "fat fuck" won I guess.

You sure went out of your way to allude to Kevin Ward Jr. getting out of his car to call him fat - which then resulted in getting run over,... what other fantasies are you cooking up in your brain, to justify Tony Stewart killing him?

Was Kevin Ward getting out of his car to invade Stewarts home?

Was Kevin Ward getting out of his car to let in Al Qaeda into the race track?

Please, enlighten us, how this fat piece of shit saved the day, or justified his actions.
 

Jaskalas

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... what other fantasies are you cooking up in your brain, to justify Tony Stewart killing him?

The video it pretty clear in this regard. The guy walked in front of race cars at night, on a dirt track, in a turn. Many factors making that an incredibly suicidal move.

It's absurd to believe that the drivers have full control over that situation, as if it was their choice whether the victim lived or not.
 

Newell Steamer

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That right there is some good old fashioned murder. Thank Christ that terrorist was wearing orange and black so we could see he was, without any doubt, a terrorist. Here's to you Tony Stewart, a real American!

Kevin Ward Jr. was probably trying to infect all the drivers AND the spectators with ebola.

Stewart should be made KING of the United States Of America Stewart.
 

MikeyLSU

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That right there is some good old fashioned murder. Thank Christ that terrorist was wearing orange and black so we could see he was, without any doubt, a terrorist. Here's to you Tony Stewart, a real American!

Funny how that's what you see. Without seeing what his wheels were doing before he was in the frame it is impossible to know his intentions. What I see in the slow motion is his front wheels going away but that kicks the back wheels back into the guy, and then he steers back towards the guy in a possible attempt to get the rear wheels to not hit him.

In this video I see him trying to avoid the guy, the big part is what did Tony do before he is on screen. Did he turn into the guy too much and then tried too late to avoid him? Or just waited too long to avoid him?

One thing I just can't get past is an idiot putting himself on that position. He was also not just standing there but being very aggressive and going further and further into the track, I think he intended to get Tony to stop his car and bet wrong.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
Oh look yet another anonymous Internet coward spewing shit, color me surprised.

I would be more than happy to meet Stewart face to face and call him a fat fuck - because he is a fat fuck.

This applies to anyone and all on the internet.

Ooooh, I'm sure Tony and all of the world are now scared of you.

Asshole

Why the admins let you continue to spew such shit is beyond me but spew away.
 

Newell Steamer

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The video it pretty clear in this regard. The guy walked in front of race cars at night, on a dirt track, in a turn. Many factors making that an incredibly suicidal move.

It's absurd to believe that the drivers have full control over that situation, as if it was their choice whether the victim lived or not.

To me, it looks like he turned into him - OK, he didn't see the driver; why turn into the area where there is a stopped/stalled car?
 

dmcowen674

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You sure went out of your way to allude to Kevin Ward Jr. getting out of his car to call him fat - which then resulted in getting run over,... what other fantasies are you cooking up in your brain, to justify Tony Stewart killing him?

Was Kevin Ward getting out of his car to invade Stewarts home?

Was Kevin Ward getting out of his car to let in Al Qaeda into the race track?

Please, enlighten us, how this fat piece of shit saved the day, or justified his actions.

Really, just keep letting this guy slander Stewart on your site?
 

Newell Steamer

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Ooooh, I'm sure Tony and all of the world are now scared of you.

Asshole

Why the admins let you continue to spew such shit is beyond me but spew away.

I dont think you understand - I don't care what Tony thinks about me. Nor fat people.

You have something to take up with the mods, you go to them. Stop bitching and moaning about it to me.
 

Newell Steamer

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Really, just keep letting this guy slander Stewart on your site?

Slander - how?

I am posting my observations on the video. He clearly veered INTO the area of a stopped/stalled car.

Why?

If he didn't see the driver, OK - that is fine and understood. But, why drive into the area of a pretty LARGE obsticle that was stopped?

My reasoning is that he saw the driver and felt it was necessary to teach him a lesson. So, he tried to scare him, by getting closer and then he ended up murdering him.

If we are not allowed to reply to give our opinions and thoughts on videos and content,.. then so be it.

Oh, but, I am sure you have NO problem with what others are saying on Stewart doing this on purpose,...

Or, worse yet - how Kevin Ward deserved to die - how he should be a recipiant of the Darwin Award.. Stop being a hypocrite.
 

pontifex

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So let's say he DID do it on purpose? How stupid would you have to be? Even if this race isn't televised (don't watch racing so have no idea on what is or isn't), there's probably 1000s of spectators plus people recording the race.
 

BUTCH1

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Well, after watching that I'm gonna have to flip opinion again as in slo-mo you can see where the car fishtailed to the right first, then back to the left. I still think TS just wanted to scare the crap out of the kid and probably never thought he would try and get that close to his car. Bad decisions by both people here with tragic result, I'm still sticking with one settles this type of deal AFTER the race is over as is the usual manner.
 

Jaskalas

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To me, it looks like he turned into him - OK, he didn't see the driver; why turn into the area where there is a stopped/stalled car?

Many of us don't believe the video shows us how he was driving until the impact. Therefore we can't say what he did or did not do to avoid the victim.

What we can say is that it's a race track. The entire field of cars will drive around a stopped/stalled car. That's 100% standard practice unless a red flag is called.
 

BUTCH1

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
Oh look yet another anonymous Internet coward spewing shit, color me surprised.



Ooooh, I'm sure Tony and all of the world are now scared of you.

Asshole

Why the admins let you continue to spew such shit is beyond me but spew away.

Kinda lame bitching about someone else's conduct in this thread when you describe that person as "asshole", can you look up the word "hypocrite" in a dictionary?..
 

Newell Steamer

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Many of us don't believe the video shows us how he was driving until the impact. Therefore we can't say what he did or did not do to avoid the victim.

What we can say is that it's a race track. The entire field of cars will drive around a stopped/stalled car. That's 100% standard practice unless a red flag is called.

Great - Stewart did nothing wrong. I'm glad you guys cleared him of any wrong doing on this matter.

Now, how about the comments that Kevin deserved to die - does anyone care to address those? Or, rather you? And, I ask you, since you stated "Many of us"; does this collective many of us feel this way?
 

Miramonti

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Tony will still be cleared. That is how things tend to work out most of the time.

I would certainly bet that him being cleared has greater odds than betting he won't be charged. Something like this is probably going to depend on local politics, community sentiment, and DA ambitions.
 
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