Tony Stewart killed a 20 year old dirt track driver....

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Red Squirrel

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I wont pretend to be a professional driver, but it seems like lot of you have never driven in a foot or so of snow before. To make a fast turn such as when you want to turn into an intersecting road and some ass is tailgating you sometimes you need to actually hit the gas otherwise the car wants to keep going straight. I would imagine loose dirt acts a bit similar to loose snow and hitting the gas was in an attempt to try to quickly correct the vehicle's direction after the wheels were turned. Though, are these things front wheel drive or rear wheel drive? I think this would apply more to front... Rear wheel drive is a bit more tricky in these conditions.
 

disappoint

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Why am I not surprised a 20 year old doesn't know any better than to attempt to intimidate a car with his crunchy human body?

The minimum legal age for race car driver should be 25. That's when insurance companies lower your rates due to statistical analysis of rampant stupidity below that age.
 

edro

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I take it people haven't see the video where it looks like ward is handing from the wing of Stewarts car on purpose.

wow, i just watched it and that video changes everything.
i used to think tony was 1% at fault, now its 0%.
 

zokudu

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I want to see this second angle video they have. Also if this kid grabbed the wing he's a complete moron instead of a mild short tempered one. It does kind of explain why Tony's car reacted the way it did though.
 

LTC8K6

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I want to see this second angle video they have. Also if this kid grabbed the wing he's a complete moron instead of a mild short tempered one. It does kind of explain why Tony's car reacted the way it did though.

It's the same video with a different description.
 

waggy

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The minimum legal age for race car driver should be 25. That's when insurance companies lower your rates due to statistical analysis of rampant stupidity below that age.

terrible idea. many race car drivers start out young and move up to faster and bigger vehicles.

This kid was just a fucking idiot. Don't put a blanket statement on the thousands of young racers who are common sense and drive safely every year.
 

xBiffx

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Why am I not surprised a 20 year old doesn't know any better than to attempt to intimidate a car with his crunchy human body?

The minimum legal age for race car driver should be 25. That's when insurance companies lower your rates due to statistical analysis of rampant stupidity below that age.

I really don't think we should be using insurance company policies to dictate laws. Do you honestly know how fricken retarded that sounds?
 

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Don't put a blanket statement on the thousands of young racers who are common sense and drive safely every year.

Are common sense? You mean have common sense? I honestly think I live in some bizarre universe where most of the people have some subconscious aversion to the word "have". I do of to say, you almost had me convinced. I would of changed my mind but my subconscious was all like nope nope nope.
 

MongGrel

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I really don't think we should be using insurance company policies to dictate laws. Do you honestly know how fricken retarded that sounds?
They all ready do to a large extent.

What alternate universe are you living in ?
 

disappoint

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terrible idea. many race car drivers start out young and move up to faster and bigger vehicles.

Wow. What is this weak argument day? I'm glad I wasn't informed of it if so.

Murder should continue to be illegal.

terrible idea. many serial killers start out young and move up to more and more victims.

Facepalm. What was I thinking? Of course because many do it, then it must be a great idea.
 

VulgarDisplay

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It looked like Stewart thought the guy was going to keep moving toward the infield so he was going to go high. Stewart likely had no idea the guy was going to attempt to confront him on the track like that.

Like I said earlier the slow motion video shows was definitely looks like Ward hanging off the right side wing on Stewarts car the instant before he gets sucked into the rear wheels. You never see him get hit by the front tire. Only sucked under the rear tire. If stewart was trying to hit him why wouldn't he have gone under the front tire also?

You guys are nuts to think Stewart meant for any of this to happen.
 

eng2d2

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The dude has anger issues. he may not have intended to kill the kid, but he wanted to send a message and ended up f*cking up bigtime.

This. Anger issue or not.

Partial blame also for the guy who walks on the track.
 

LegendKiller

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Police: A first sprint car swerved to avoid

Are you contesting their account of the incident?

Of course they are - they know far more from watching a single YouTube video and trying, convicting, and sentencing Stewart before a single thing outside of the video is known.

Here's my take - Stewart had a higher line, saw the first car swerve (after gunning it) and tried to do the same. Meanwhile, as the first car went by, idiot kid kept coming down the track, into stewarts line, which he tried to brake, then go high or low to avoid, but it was too late. Idiot kid took the line, Stewart couldn't avoid, and idiot kid decided to jump onto his car. Idiot kid died, stewart gets pilloried because people have an axe to grind.
 

Wyndru

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Of course they are - they know far more from watching a single YouTube video and trying, convicting, and sentencing Stewart before a single thing outside of the video is known.

Here's my take - Stewart had a higher line, saw the first car swerve (after gunning it) and tried to do the same. Meanwhile, as the first car went by, idiot kid kept coming down the track, into stewarts line, which he tried to brake, then go high or low to avoid, but it was too late. Idiot kid took the line, Stewart couldn't avoid, and idiot kid decided to jump onto his car. Idiot kid died, stewart gets pilloried because people have an axe to grind.
But your take on it is just as invalid as everyone else's. There isn't much to go on, and I doubt that will change. The only person who knows for sure is Tony.

The big problem here is when you have other drivers that were there getting emotional and stating that it was intentional. People need to be cautious of making statements like that, the media eats that shit up and now everyone is skewed and calling for legal action.
 
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LegendKiller

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But your take on it is just as invalid as everyone else's. There isn't much to go on, and I doubt that will change. The only person who knows for sure is Tony.

The big problem here is when you have other drivers that were there getting emotional and stating that it was intentional. People need to be cautious of making statements like that, the media eats that shit up and now everyone is skewed and calling for legal action.

I agree 100%, which is why I put my version there.
 
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