Tony Stewart killed a 20 year old dirt track driver....

[Ns1]

So I just found out this kid has weed in his system and people are saying it is a non issues?
LOL

Stoners going to stone.

weed in system =/= under the influence

not saying that's the case here, just sayin.

 

[smackababy]

I'm pretty sure this is one of those "new math" things where they now use the word "narcotic" to cover stuff politicians don't like. Where it used to mean

Does marijuana not "make numb", does it not reactive primarily on the central nervous system? Sounds a lot like a narcotic to me.

If you truly believe marijuana does not impair judgement, effect mood or brain function, or such things; you are literally to dumb to insult.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Does marijuana not "make numb", does it not reactive primarily on the central nervous system? Sounds a lot like a narcotic to me.

If you truly believe marijuana does not impair judgement, effect mood or brain function, or such things; you are literally to dumb to insult.

:|

 

[TechBoyJK]

Does marijuana not "make numb", does it not reactive primarily on the central nervous system? Sounds a lot like a narcotic to me.

If you truly believe marijuana does not impair judgement, effect mood or brain function, or such things; you are literally to dumb to insult.

Dial back the insults, yo.

There's a difference between controlled substance and narcotics.

First, go back to my original post about this. I absolutely acknowledge it can impair. So please don't put words in my mouth. I said if the kid was doing bong rips of a heavy indica strand before his race, he's an absolute idiot. And no, marijuana does not 'make numb'. Feel free to challenge this assertion. I'm open minded.

By medical definition, marijuana, in and of itself, is not a narcotic. I'm not here to defend this; just saying if you were in a medical class and you were asked the question, it'd be incorrect to say it's a narcotic. It's not. The only reason it's called one in a legal situation is because the drug war agenda distorted the word to include things beyond the original definition so that the penalties for 'narcotics' could be applied to them.

Don't you think it's silly to call marijuana a schedule 1 controlled substance, like heroin, when it's nothing of the sort? It's not a narcotic nor is it anything like heroin.

If you think marijuana is a narcotic, do you also believe OTC Tylenol is as well?

 

[kevman]

The fact remains, that he tried to intimidate the kid by goosing the throttle, fucked up by killing him and at the end of the day got away with it.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

The fact remains, that he tried to intimidate the kid by goosing the throttle, fucked up by killing him and at the end of the day got away with it.

When did him goosing the throttle become a fact? I thought the fact was that the kid going under his tired cause the engine to rev because it lost traction.

 

[Adrenaline]

The fact remains, that he tried to intimidate the kid by goosing the throttle, fucked up by killing him and at the end of the day got away with it.

You mean the adult that came onto a racetrack where a race was currently happening. The adult that knew it was a dirt track. This adult tried to intimidate Stewart. That intimidation didn't turn out so well.

 

[arkcom]

If you think marijuana is a narcotic, do you also believe OTC Tylenol is as well?

nar·cot·ic -
A drug or other substance affecting mood or behavior and sold for nonmedical purposes, especially an illegal one.

 

[LTC8K6]

The fact remains, that he tried to intimidate the kid by goosing the throttle, fucked up by killing him and at the end of the day got away with it.

There's no way to tell if the sound of an engine revving up is coming from Tony's car, or one of the other cars on the track closer to the camera.

Since we can hear it well, it's likely from a car that is closer to the camera.

 

[slugg]

There's no way to tell if the sound of an engine revving up is coming from Tony's car, or one of the other cars on the track closer to the camera.

Since we can hear it well, it's likely from a car that is closer to the camera.

Not true, especially with cheapo cameras and cell phones. They all have automatic gain control, capable of making even a pin drop sound like a gunshot.

 

[LTC8K6]

Not true, especially with cheapo cameras and cell phones. They all have automatic gain control, capable of making even a pin drop sound like a gunshot.

Well, we know that there are cars closer to the camera, since the track is a circle, so which is more likely?

Tantillo said two videos of the incident were examined and revealed there was "no aberrational driving by Tony Stewart."

That would seem to rule out "gunning the engine to intimidate".

 

[xBiffx]

At least this thread has exposed the idiots who:

a) don't know the meaning of the word narcotic, especially in legal terms.

b) think that having said narcotic in the system of a RACE CAR DRIVER isn't a big deal.

Wow, fucking retards abound.

 

[kevman]

There is way to much cognitive dissonance going on in this thread. On both sides of the coin.

 

[TechBoyJK]

nar·cot·ic -
A drug or other substance affecting mood or behavior and sold for nonmedical purposes, especially an illegal one.

And where did you get that definition?

That's the non-medical definition that isn't representative of what the word means to the medical community. It's legal bs.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071228160521AAuZaSj

http://marijuana.com/community/threads/marijuana-a-narcotic.150395/page-2

Here is the DEA's definition of narcotic

(17) The term "narcotic drug" means any of the following whether produced directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of vegetable origin, or independently by means of chemical synthesis, or by a combination of extraction and chemical synthesis:

(A) Opium, opiates, derivatives of opium and opiates, including their isomers, esters, ethers, salts, and salts of isomers, esters, and ethers, whenever the existence of such isomers, esters, ethers, and salts is possible within the specific chemical designation. Such term does not include the isoquinoline alkaloids of opium.
(B) Poppy straw and concentrate of poppy straw.
(C) Coca leaves, except coca leaves and extracts of coca leaves from which cocaine, ecgonine, and derivatives of ecgonine or their salts have been removed.
(D) Cocaine, its salts, optical and geometric isomers, and salts of isomers.
(E) Ecgonine, its derivatives, their salts, isomers, and salts of isomers.
(F) Any compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of any of the substances referred to in subparagraphs (A) through (E).

 

[xBiffx]

And where did you get that definition?

That's the non-medical definition that isn't representative of what the word means to the medical community. It's legal bs.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071228160521AAuZaSj

http://marijuana.com/community/threads/marijuana-a-narcotic.150395/page-2

Here is the DEA's definition of narcotic

Only a moron quotes medical definitions in a thread clearly about a legal matter and calls the legal definition bs.

 

[smackababy]

Only a moron quotes medical definitions in a thread clearly about a legal matter and calls the legal definition bs.

And, the medical community shies away from the term narcotic in general, as it isn't defined narrowly enough, AFAIK.

Marijuana is as much of a medical narcotic as cocaine, however, as legally defined (and the commonly used term throughout the world), both are considered narcotics.

 

[Ronstang]

The only "facts" I see in the video is a complete dumbass kid doing the stupidest thing ever by getting out of a race car...ON A TRACK WITH CARS BUZZING BY...and instead of running for safety he runs to confront a 1500 lb car like he's a matador. DARWIN!!!!

 

[surfsatwerk]

Guys let's not get sidetracked from the real issue here, that Tony Stewart got away with... MURDER!


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[cabri]

Guys let's not get sidetracked from the real issue here, that Tony Stewart got away with... MURDER!


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So that is your opinion.

the law and Grand Jury say otherwise.

People need to be considered responsible for their actions.
Ward contributed heavily to the incident.

No one was able to provide evidence that Stewart intended on killing anyone let alone hitting Ward.

 

[surfsatwerk]

So that is your opinion.

the law and Grand Jury say otherwise.

People need to be considered responsible for their actions.
Ward contributed heavily to the incident.

No one was able to provide evidence that Stewart intended on killing anyone let alone hitting Ward.

But the VIDEO!!!!!

 

[Ronstang]

Guys let's not get sidetracked from the real issue here, that Tony Stewart got away with... MURDER!


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And you seem to get away on a daily basis without having your thoughts based in reality....see how that works?

 

[HumblePie]

surfsatwerk

/hats off

you reeled in a couple there

 

[TechBoyJK]

Only a moron quotes medical definitions in a thread clearly about a legal matter and calls the legal definition bs.

Right. Because the legal matter is being decided on a medical issue.

Bottomline is that marijuana, technically, is no more a narcotic than water. It's simply not a narcotic, and the definition of a narcotic was only twisted to include it in attempt to demonize marijuana and associate it to actual dangerous narcotics.

Essentially, a definition of narcotic that includes marijuana is a corrupted definition.

That's all I'm getting at.

It'd be like someone stretching the definition of vegetable to include tomatoes because most people already think it's one. In reality, it's not.

 

[smackababy]

Right. Because the legal matter is being decided on a medical issue.

Bottomline is that marijuana, technically, is no more a narcotic than water. It's simply not a narcotic, and the definition of a narcotic was only twisted to include it in attempt to demonize marijuana and associate it to actual dangerous narcotics.

Essentially, a definition of narcotic that includes marijuana is a corrupted definition.

That's all I'm getting at.

It'd be like someone stretching the definition of vegetable to include tomatoes because most people already think it's one. In reality, it's not.

So, you agree that cocaine should be treated in the same manner as you wish marijuana to be treated, since it is also not a "medical narcotic".

 

[cabri]

But the VIDEO!!!!!

What does the video show.


Ward going into on-going traffic on foot?
Ward running toward Stewart's car?
Stewart targeting Ward?
Stewart's car hitting Ward?


Without #3 being concrete, the best you have is negligence.
Adding in #1 & #2; negligence does not exist. - only stupidity of Ward

Now if you are playing devil's advocate for all the idiots out there - good for you.