Too good to be true?!?!?!?!?!

[OdeonKreel]

Stumbled across this at another forum I frequent.

http://free.aizohndirect.com/systems.htm

Is this too good to be true? How can thy make any money on this?

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Look at the registration info in d2ass's post. This should be more than enough warning.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[Sunmansfx]

Linkified

 

[PHiuR]

looks to good to be true... (kinda)

 

[Bowman795]

Sounds like a scam to me.

 

[Sunmansfx]

If it smells like a scam, feels like a Scam, IT IS a SCAM.

If it is too good to be true...it isn't true.

Gimme $150 I'll process your level 4 order. Send via Paypal. I'll include free Internet Scam for Dummies book in.

 

[giant96]

I saw this also..you get to keep the PC or Laptop for 2 years pay the service charge up front..then you get emails with surverys and you have to fill out 12 within 2 years. After 2 years is up you have to return it or buy it outright. I guess they do not track your internet usage which seems cool.

 

[cmbehan]

What's the catch?

I mean, you recieve junk mail (so) and crap E-mail (set up a separate account).

In return, you get a P3 1Ghz laptop w/ 256MB ram 8x8x4x32x dvd/cd-rw and 15" TFT for $200 for 24 months?

How can this company even last for 24 months? If they go out of bus. what happens then?


Any lawyers in here? read through the terms and give me your opinion.


cmbehan

 

[slycat]

These are the Terms in a nutshell:
Fine print...

You select a Freedom System
Pay the attendant Processing Fee
Your term of use for the system is two years (24 months)
You agree to receive targeted direct mail and email sales campaigns from Aizohn Direct. These special offers will be generated based upon your responses to monthly surveys.
At the end of your term of use you may:
Return the system with no further obligation*
Upgrade to a new system at a reduced processing fee**
Purchase the system for a flat fee***

What we don't do:
We don't sell your information to third parties
We don't monitor your Internet activities
We don't require a specific Internet provider

Advertising splash screen on computer startup
Homepage on browser locked to special offers page
Subscription to email mail list of special offers
Customer interest surveys 12 times a year
Direct Mail sales materials

 

[MackGoose]

*2 year agreement, one-time processing fee, agreement to view sales materials and answer 12 surveys each year. Limited time offer. Prices and specifications subject to change without notice. Actual system may differ from photograph.
Copyright © 2001, Aizohn Direct Suppliers? Inc. All rights reserved.

This just means....."We'll follow your every move and bombard your e-mail (and snail mail) with advertising crap. Not to mention, we'll sell your phone number too......"

RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN

 

[Jabronie]

This is scary.......

 

[Rally1]

mmmmm

pay with paypal...... sweet
Community Participation: New Member*
Account Status: Verified
Account Type: Business
Account Creation Date: October 02, 2001
PayPal Member For: 3 days


answer: yes, too good

STAY AWAY!!!!!

 

[MontyBurns]

You pay by PayPal, and these jokers created their PayPal account on OCT 2!!! STAY AWAY!!

This is such an obvious scam.

 

[Ranger X]

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

... yeah sounds like a scam to me.

 

[namlook]

S-C-A-M ALERT

This kind of business model has been proven not to work. No advertisers would be giving loaded notebooks in exchange for looking at ads and sending in 12 surveys. No way.

They also say on the web page they accept credit cards but there is no way to pay by credit card - only paypal.

No phone number to contact them.

No one answers when you go to the live help window.

S-C-A-M ALERT

 

[Salvador]

No fraud protection for paying by paypal. I'd pay by regular credit card only, so I could dispute the charges if I got screwed.

Sal

 

[d2ass]

Registar Information (has to be a scam):

Jonathon Rowell (template COCO-1090026)
manager@aizohndirect.com
850N 50E
Provo, UT 84604 US

Domain Name: aizohndirect.com
Status: production

Admin Contact:
Jonathon Rowell (COCO-1090026) manager@aizohndirect.com
xxx-xxx-xxxx
Technical Contact:
Fast DNS (COCO-68844) reg@fastdns.net
999-999-9999

CORE Registrar: CORE-95

Record created: 2001-07-24 19:56:59 UTC by CORE-95
Record expires: 2002-07-24 14:02:21 UTC

Domain servers in listed order:

ns.host4u.net
ns2.host4u.net

 

[OdeonKreel]

yeah...that's what I figured....
but the funny or actually sad thing is that SOMEBODY out there either fell for it or is going to fall for it and loose some cash

 

[namlook]

Hey this is interesting. Look at this page:

http://www.associateprograms.com/search/Electronics/hardware/index1.shtml

About half-way down the page:

Freedom Systems Rate It [ 0.00 / 0 Votes ]
Freedom Systems makes it easy for you to have a computer and get online. Get a Freedom System as a second computer, for a college student or to replace an old, outdated system. As an affiliate you will refer individuals to sign up for a free Aizohn Direct Freedom System of their choice. The affiliate program pays you 10% of the processing fee for each confirmed sale. There is also a pay-per-click program which offers a 5 cent bounty on each hit received from your link. You will receive weekly payments whenever your balance exceeds $25. Submitted by John Andrews, Freedom Systems..

 

[stso]

<< What we don't do:

We don't sell your information to third parties
We don't monitor your Internet activities
We don't require a specific Internet provider >>


They forgot to say "We don't EAT YOUR MONEY"

Stay away!!

 

[ieee]

just send me your money instead....

 

[peterframpton69]

Yes, please paypal me!! I promise not to give you anything!!

 

[Jabronie]

This method is just SO much more efficient than Cyberrebates.com....

 

[DEFIANT1]

<< Aizohn Direct Freedom Systems reserves the right ... >>

to institute new or additional fees, and to change its policies, methods, and procedures with respect to pricing, billing, cancellations, and surcharges.


<< ... nothing in this Agreement shall require Aizohn Direct Freedom Systems to provide prior notice to its users before taking any of the actions set forth above. >>




<< 2.4 YOUR OBLIGATION TO PAY ALL FEES, CHARGES AND AMOUNTS DUE UNDER THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE ABSOLUTE AND UNCONDITIONAL, >>



<< YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY BE BILLED DIRECTLY FOR ANY REFUSED CHARGES TO THE CREDIT CARD ACCOUNT PROVIDED BY YOU TO AIZOHN DIRECT FREEDOM SERVICES. >>



<< By using a credit card or debit card to pay for any billable portions of the Service, you expressly authorize Aizohn Direct Freedom Systems or its agents to charge all fees and other charges incurred in connection with your user name and password (including any shipping and handling fees and taxes) to the credit card or debit card you have designated. Each time you use your account on the Service will be deemed to be a reaffirmation of the foregoing authorization, and such authorization will remain valid unless revoked by you in writing to Aizohn Direct Freedom Systems. >>



For a scam, they've got some good lawyers writing airtight boilerplate for them.....

This has a very bad odor about it....

 

[khtm]

Damn I hope this is a valid deal, but it looks pretty sketchy.

Who has $200 to gamble with?

 

[Packy]

RUN AWAY!! RUN AWAYYYYY!!

This is really freaky...