Top 1,000 U.S. High Schools

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Parrotheader
Originally posted by: xirtam
Didn't make the list, buit I find the criteria odd.
To say the least.

I'd barely even heard of the school that's #1 on the list and located less than a mile from my office. Apparently it's a program that only top students within the county school system are invited to join. If true, that's not exactly a fair comparison as you're taking the equivalent of a tiny school made up entirely of AP-caliber students and contrasting that with much larger schools with a much more diverse mix of students.

The criteria for getting into JCIB was based on several things. First of all you had to be in the RLC program for Jefferson County which required Teacher, Counselor, and Principal recommendation, have a certain IQ, and pass a battery of tests. Once you were in RLC you had to deal with your RLC representative which would meet with your teachers and determine if your current school was adequate or if you needed a more challenging curriculum. Once that happened the JCIB staff and administration reviewed all of that and would invite you to come. Typically there were about 50-70 people each year that were asked from 8th grade to come to JCIB for 9-12th grade education.

Yes, there was a selective admissions policy and we were cherry picked, but many other IB schools and schools on that list do the same thing. I enjoyed going there, and because we were located at the new Shades Valley Highschool we had the ability to play sports and participate in normal high school activities. Pierre Brown a classmate of mine plays football for the Arkansas Razorback, and another guy a grade ahead named Ronald Hatcher played football for Vanderbilt. We were normal highschool students who had our own building on Shades Valley campus with very relaxed rules and individualized curriculum. People from my class went to Harvard, Oxford, Yale, MIT, Vanderbilt, UAB, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State, etc. Our class of 60 received over 1.5 million in scholarship to colleges throughout the world.

I loved that school and my tenure there allowed me to get a great education in Public Schools. Not everyone is afforded the same treatment and education, but because of what we had achieved or approved we were given the chance to go there. You became very tight knit friends with the people in all grades, and we were able to fun things like several trips to Europe (teachers would take students during the Summer or Spring Break). I was lucky enough to go to Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, and Morocco my 10th grade year. I can honestly say that the curriculum there was entirely college based, so we were given a leg up in getting great scholarships and into great schools.

If you think about it the criteria makes sense, because it isn't like parents or students are going to throw away the money it costs for AP/IB exams and we would take between 10-20 of them. The IB diploma is Internationally Accepted at any University in the World, and many people started college as Sophomores or a few credits shy of being Juniors because of the AP/IB tests. A vast majority of people who took the AP/IB tests made high enough to get college credit. I received credit at UAB and Mississippi State for the tests I took. In hindsight I should have stayed there my Senior year and taken more tests, but I did not.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: KoolAidKid
That ranking system is questionable to say the least. All you have to do to rank high is to pay for each student to take 10 AP tests in random subjects. You instantly become the best school in America.

No, because NO ONE knew what their criteria would be, and secondly schools don't pay for the AP/IB tests, or at least they did not at my HS. I had to fully pay for each test I took.
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: ABitTooSpicy
Eh... reading the FAQ makes me not believe this list at all:
6. Why don?t I see famous public high schools like Stuyvesant in New York City or Thomas Jefferson in Fairfax County, Va., or the Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy in Aurora, Ill. or Lowell High in San Francisco on the NEWSWEEK list?

I do not include any high school that accepts more than half of its students into the school based on highly competitive academic criteria like grades and test scores.All of those schools you name are terrific places with some of the highest average test scores in the country, but it would be deceptive for me to put them on this list. The Challenge Index is designed to honor schools that have done the best job in getting average students into college level courses. It does not work with schools that have no, or almost no, average students. I want a list that measures how good the schools are, not just how good their students are.

Well in that case I don't understand, because my school had criteria to get in, and one of those was that you were not an average student. You were supposed to be one of the best students in the entire system.

 

eLiu

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Dubb
Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
note that this metric is:

# of AP or IB tests GIVEN / # grad seniors


a fairly simplistic measure of school excellence I would say....


PS I put the list into an excel table if anyone wants it.

now I know why mine isn't on there, even though we were supposedly among the top 10-15 in the state : No AP classes, and all the teachers except one or two actively discouraged taking them independently. I think they just didn't want to bother - I was so pissed off when I got to college and everybody had 15-40 credits to start.


I wouldn't worry to much about that - I had a roomate that bypassed part of Freshman Calc based on AP credits. He got smoked in 2nd semester calc and had to drop it and start from the beginning anyway (which completely fvcked his schedule), and the engineering dept. actively discouraged people from skipping calculus based on AP credit.

I wouldn't use AP credit for anything that's important to your discipline.

...wth? lol

Good grief I bypassed tons of freshman classes and I know the material better than most freshmen who take those classes..and this isn't any joker school either.
 

AmbitV

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Oct 20, 1999
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"Why don?t I see famous public high schools like Stuyvesant in New York City or Thomas Jefferson in Fairfax County, Va., or the Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy in Aurora, Ill. or Lowell High in San Francisco on the NEWSWEEK list?"

I went to one of those....knew something was wrong when I didn't see it on the first page
 

thraashman

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#676 Dunwoody. Though when I graduated I know it had to have been far worse. I know they changed some things around that would seriously improve the school.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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#113 - Providence (Charlotte): This is the one I graduated from

Heh, Anand's old HS is #52 (Enloe)
 

CrazyDe1

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That list isn't accurate.

There's no way a couple inner city schools ranked above the school district I went to. In fact, my high school, when I was there had the highest rate of kids going to college in the nation...
 

Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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Whoever formatted that article is a complete moron. I'm not even going to bother searching...

Anybody know what they abbreviated Oregon as? :roll:
 

ts3433

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Mine isn't on there, but this year is only its 5th year of existence. It's also a charter school, with only about 360 students (albeit on a campus of over 20,000).
I graduate in 2008.

Edison (our school's Academic Decathlon archrival) and Bullard in Fresno made the list, though. I was a bit surprised to see no Clovis schools on the list--they're known for good academic performance around here, and for prospective home buyers the Clovis school district is a significant attraction that brings many to northeast Fresno and north Clovis (where lots of development is ongoing).
 

Rayden

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60 | Oxnard | Oxnard | Calif. | 3.211 | 45

Wtf? Oxnard is right next to where I live and generally considered lower class. I can't believe it scores very high. It may be a wonderful school I don't know. Yet Foothill Technology Highschool, a magnet school that ranked a perfect 10 in some study for California schools isn't even on there.

Compare from the 2004 Academic Performance Index (API) Base Report

Oxnard High
Foothill Tech

Something is definately wrong with the list.
 

amol

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Rayden
60 | Oxnard | Oxnard | Calif. | 3.211 | 45

Wtf? Oxnard is right next to where I live and generally considered lower class. I can't believe it scores very high. It may be a wonderful school I don't know. Yet Foothill Technology Highschool, a magnet school that ranked a perfect 10 in some study for California schools isn't even on there.

Compare from the 2004 Academic Performance Index (API) Base Report

Oxnard High
Foothill Tech

Something is definately wrong with the list.

San Marino High

Look at my school's API score ... 897

Yet your school is ranked higher than mine, which is weird.
 

pray4mojo

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Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: Rayden
60 | Oxnard | Oxnard | Calif. | 3.211 | 45

Wtf? Oxnard is right next to where I live and generally considered lower class. I can't believe it scores very high. It may be a wonderful school I don't know. Yet Foothill Technology Highschool, a magnet school that ranked a perfect 10 in some study for California schools isn't even on there.

Compare from the 2004 Academic Performance Index (API) Base Report

Oxnard High
Foothill Tech

Something is definately wrong with the list.

San Marino High

Look at my school's API score ... 897

Yet your school is ranked higher than mine, which is weird.

I wish I go to your school.
 

amol

Lifer
Jul 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: pray4mojo
Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: Rayden
60 | Oxnard | Oxnard | Calif. | 3.211 | 45

Wtf? Oxnard is right next to where I live and generally considered lower class. I can't believe it scores very high. It may be a wonderful school I don't know. Yet Foothill Technology Highschool, a magnet school that ranked a perfect 10 in some study for California schools isn't even on there.

Compare from the 2004 Academic Performance Index (API) Base Report

Oxnard High
Foothill Tech

Something is definately wrong with the list.

San Marino High

Look at my school's API score ... 897

Yet your school is ranked higher than mine, which is weird.

I wish I go to your school.

No you don't.

People in my school don't have any fun.

Our prom was a couple days ago on Saturday at the Aquarium of the Pacific ... so many people didn't go ...

Why?

They needed to study for AP Biology and/or Physics and/or Chemistry

Not only that, but it's cutthroat. Four ... yeah, that's right ... 4 students got a 2400 on the March SAT I. That basically screws the rest of the Junior class.




I don't know if you read the Pasadena Star-News, but there was a very interesting front page article about San Marino High and it's "Asian-ness"

Article

The person who wrote it actually interviewed me but decided not to include me since I didn't fit "Asian" completely (I'm Indian).
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: pray4mojo
Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: Rayden
60 | Oxnard | Oxnard | Calif. | 3.211 | 45

Wtf? Oxnard is right next to where I live and generally considered lower class. I can't believe it scores very high. It may be a wonderful school I don't know. Yet Foothill Technology Highschool, a magnet school that ranked a perfect 10 in some study for California schools isn't even on there.

Compare from the 2004 Academic Performance Index (API) Base Report

Oxnard High
Foothill Tech

Something is definately wrong with the list.

San Marino High

Look at my school's API score ... 897

Yet your school is ranked higher than mine, which is weird.

I wish I go to your school.

No you don't.

People in my school don't have any fun.

Our prom was a couple days ago on Saturday at the Aquarium of the Pacific ... so many people didn't go ...

Why?

They needed to study for AP Biology and/or Physics and/or Chemistry

Not only that, but it's cutthroat. Four ... yeah, that's right ... 4 students got a 2400 on the March SAT I. That basically screws the rest of the Junior class.




I don't know if you read the Pasadena Star-News, but there was a very interesting front page article about San Marino High and it's "Asian-ness"

Article

The person who wrote it actually interviewed me but decided not to include me since I didn't fit "Asian" completely (I'm Indian).

I am about to read the article. I am glad that San Marino is becoming more "asian." Once the rich asians from Monterey Park, San Gabriel, and Alhambra outgrew this ghetto, they moved on up to San Marino and Pasadena. The whites there are undoubtedly trembling in their homes and very upset at this. They are going to have to move to maintain their race status quo. Change is good.
 
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