Top Load Vs. Front Load HE Washer?

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Dr. Zaus

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Front load; but leave the door open when you're done using it.
Top-load agitator is good for the clothing too, but are flakey.
Higher RPM spin cycle means faster finish of spin;
-larger tank means dryer post-spin
-dryer post-spin means faster drying
-faster drying means less money spent on dryer
 

Broheim

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The thing I don't like about top loaders is when you wash something heavy they get out of balance too easily.

My mom has a small top loaded centrifuge that I use on my more delicate knitwear after hand washing it, if it's not perfectly balanced I'll need an old priest and a young priest.

Front load; but leave the door open when you're done using it.
Top-load agitator is good for the clothing too, but are flakey.
Higher RPM spin cycle means faster finish of spin;
-larger tank means dryer post-spin
-dryer post-spin means faster drying
-faster drying means less money spent on dryer

we always did this when i lived at home and never ever had a smelling issue. The little consumer washing machine in my apartment complex sometimes smell a bit because some idiots in the building doesn't realize this. The big professional ones never smell though.
I don't think anyone in Denmark actually have a top loaded washer or dryer.
 

notposting

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We bought a Frigidaire laundry center (full size stacked units) front load setup in 2008 (got $200 off with Live Cash on eBay!).

It's really basic control wise, regular old knobs, few basic cycles, a moisture sensing dryer is great. No problems with vibration (granted, I leveled it AND it was on a concrete basement floor ) or mold/mildew. Couple times a year I just run a cycle with bleach only, rest of the time just make sure to leave the washer door open. You also don't want to let a washed load sit in there too long (like overnight) with the door still shut. It is AMAZING how little water the front load will use, and we NEVER had a problem with getting clothes clean (and I was working construction at the time so my work clothes were filthy).

However, when we end up buying again we are NOT getting a laundry center again, what a pain in the rear to move!

(note: was model GLGH1642FS if you want to see an example)
 

Lalakai

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if space is an issue, then the stack combo units are hard to beat.

we've had a front load for several years now and I won't go back to the top load. With 5 kids, 2 adults and tons of sports being played, the washer gets a severe workout. The front load units will save on water and cause less wear and tear on garments unless you get a high end top load that has the special agitator in it. Odor has been an issue when we go on vacation but we've learned to throw a handful of boraxo into the drum and let it sift down into the water. My biggest compliant is how some of the clothes can get very intertwined with other clothes. From my wife's perspective it's a great unit and she loves how well it cleans her "hand wash only" clothes, on the hand wash cycle. If we have to buy another washer, it will be a front load again.
 

OutHouse

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Ive had front loaders for over 10 years and never had a complaint. I've also never noticed a smell in the tub as so many people claim. My experience with them has been positive and if they save me money as far as reduced water, less wear and tear on clothes then I am happy.

im going on 7 years for me. love the electrolux front loaders.
 

CraigRT

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I picked up a top load LG HE washer about a year ago and it has been great. Runs quiet, gets stuff clean, have had no issues with it, I am very happy with this one!
 

alkemyst

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Top loaders are great when your family doesn't tell you all their laundry.

I love my HE top loader. I can put a queen sized comforter plus the mattress pad in at once.
 

tortillasoup

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For people are having issues with their clothes not drying or not getting wrinkles out, here are some things to consider:
1. Don't wash half a load of terry cloth (lots of cotton) towels with half a load of your regular clothes unless you're willing to risk getting a bunch of lint onto your clothes. You can put a small proportion of towels to clothes ratio but you're risking still getting lint on them. Another reason it's a bad idea to mix towels with clothes is that towels take longer to dry than clothes in a clothes dryer (assuming you use one).
2. If you want your clothes load to dry quicker, keep a single dry towel in the dryer. The towel will absorb moisture and increase the surface area for the moisture to dissipate.
3. If you're getting a lot of static on your clothes after drying, you're overdrying your clothes. If you notice certain items are getting static but not others, it's because you're likely drying synthetics with cottons. Synthetics dry significantly faster than cotton so you may consider either stopping the drying load prematurely to remove those items or to air dry the synthetics since they'll self dry relatively quickly.
4. Clothes dryers damage clothing, all that "lint" is your clothes flying out the exhaust.
5. If you have clothes that have been exposed to mold, have strong body odor or any other "living organisms" that won't come out with detergent or whatever, use Twenty Mule Team Borax.
6. Add a cup or two of White Vinegar to the "Fabric Softener dispenser" as it works as a great fabric softener. Using this will assist in the removal of soap suds from your clothes, leaving less soap behind. (With less soap on clothes, clothes will get less dirty)
7.If you're cleaning really really soiled clothing (such as those from a person with strong/bad body odor) but the rest of the load isn't so dirty, consider pre-soaking the clothes with some detergent, warm/hot water and borax in a bucket for at least 30minutes, preferably 2 hours, drain, squeeze out clothes then you can add with rest of wash load and it won't contaminate the rest. Don't pre-soak really dirty clothes in the washing machine as the odor will infect the machine.
8. Leave the lid open to your washing machine otherwise odors will build up in the machine and leave your clothes smelling bad. If you read the instructions, washing machines are suppose to have their lids up so they can dry out and ventilate.
 

Pacfanweb

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What makes home front-loads smell? Not leaving the door open when not in use like you're supposed to. The lids on top loads don't seal, because they don't need to to hold the water in, so they vent just fine. Front loads tell you to leave the doors open when not in use. Guaranteed the only people having that problem are the ones that don't.

All laundromats have front loads, and I've never seen one of theirs that smelled.
 
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bononos

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What makes home front-loads smell? Not leaving the door open when not in use like you're supposed to. The lids on top loads don't seal, because they don't need to to hold the water in, so they vent just fine. Front loads tell you to leave the doors open when not in use. Guaranteed the only people having that problem are the ones that don't.

All laundromats have front loads, and I've never seen one of theirs that smelled.

It doesn't look nice when you leave the door ajar.
 

tortillasoup

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All laundromats have front loads, and I've never seen one of theirs that smelled.

You haven't been to ghetto laundromats, tons of them have odor issues. Also the laundromat I used to go to had instructions to leave the doors open when you're finished. There are obviously ways to mitigate issues with odor but that requires running a whole cycle with the machine empty, using borax, etc.

It doesn't look nice when you leave the door ajar.

If you read the owners manual, it states that you should do so. If you do laundry once a week, you can probably just close the door the next morning as it will be dried out but if you do it everyday then you need to leave the door ajar. I've had odor issues with Top loading and Front Loading equally.
 

Kaido

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I don't like HE & I don't like front-load washing machines. I've had the most luck with basic top-load washers & front-load dryers. Like others have mentioned, you can get a funky smell if you don't remember to leave the front-load washer door open, and nobody every remembers, so better to skip that design in my house. Also, look into a Dryer Box if you're replacing stuff - prevents the dryer exhaust hose from getting squished:

http://www.dryerbox.com/

So I would just go with a basic top-load non-HE washing machine and a basic front-load non-HE drying machine.
 

Soundmanred

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We have a nice red front load set from LG.
They really are awesome. They are quiet, don't use much water, I can wash large items, the list goes on.
 

tortillasoup

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There are no high efficiency clothes dryers. A front loading washing machine is easier on the clothes, they require less hot water to fill up, can spin much faster removing more water run less time in the clothes dryer which saves energy and does less damage to clothes. Front loading can be perfectly reliable as evidenced by a large number of laundromats using these. There is also no transmission to repair on the front loader though there is the front "seal" that can be problematic.

Top loading washing machines aren't really high efficiency by any measure.
 
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Meghan54

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I can only speak from our experiences with front loaders, but it's mostly very positive.

Overall, the front loaders have cleaned noticeable better than the top loaders they replaced, are quieter, use much less water and electricity, the driers dry faster--because the washers wring more water out of the clothes during spin cycle.

The downsides to the front loaders are the spin was sometimes so fast it'd knot up all the clothes, esp. bad with jeans, but our new washer allows you to adjust spin speeds, and that issue is long gone, and the drum smell, described below.

We bought our first front loader, a Frigidare set, about 8-9 years ago. Liked it a lot, but it was a very low/mid range set and ended up being less than stellar. It had the drum smell, combated effectively by leaving the drum door open after washes. But its fatal flaw was a poorly designed circuit board for its controls, used cheap caps in it, causing us to have to replace it once at around 5 years, and it needed it again when we left the set on Cape Cod when we moved.

The second set is our current set, a Whirlpool Duet Steam pair. This set has, so far, proven vastly superior to the Frigidaire set that I regret wasting the money on the Frigidaire pair.

The drum smell problem doesn't exist and have yet to have to leave the door cracked open at all...we wash 4-6 loads per week. The spin speed is adjustable so the uber tangled clothes issue doesn't exist, once we figured out what spin speed is appropriate for what load...the default spin speeds sometimes were too fast and did tangle clothes a bit.

But, to buy new right now, I doubt we'd buy such a higher line of washer/dryer like we did. Whirlpool has at least 4 lines of washers/dryers in their front loaders....Duet HT, Duet Steam, Duet Sport HT, and Duet Sport. We bought the Steam set because they were being discounted because they were year-end models. We've used the steam function rarely---wife has, really, I haven't at all---and it seems to work OK, but if they'd not been so discounted, we'd have moved one model line down. (The models being closed out below ours were already gone by the time we were buying).

From what we've read, Maytag, LG, Samsung, Kenmore and Whirlpool are all brands to consider. All produce excellent performing washers and dryers, but the major knock against LG and Samsung has been lack of qualified service persons and parts availability. While probably not an issue for people living in big cities/urban areas, it is a current issue for those of us living out in the sticks, or further out like us. The Korean brands still have not gotten their service and parts infrastructure as widespread as the "American" brands are. So, just something to consider.

And I wouldn't consider a top loader HE washer at all, unless under complete duress and no other option. They don't clean quite as well as front loaders, are a bit noisier, do not spin as fast so don't extract as much water from the clothes, causing increased drying times, and to match the front loader capacities, mfgrs. have been making top loaders slightly taller and taller to create drums that hold as much as front loaders. The down side is the drum is deeper, top to bottom, and if you're fairly short like my wife is at 5' 3", it could be difficult to reach the bottom of the washer's drum. I know we looked at a couple and she absolutely could not touch the bottom of the drums without standing on something.

I'd make sure you by with a stainless steel drum in both washer and dryer, or at least the washer. The stainless in a washer gives the ability to spin faster than plastic drums. I'd never consider any washer with a porcelain coated steel drum at all....never. Dryer has to have a moisture sensor in it, not a thermostat type drying control/sensor.
 

trevor0323

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My 1 year old front load Samsung is louder than sin during the spin cycle! It also shakes terribly and anything on top of the washer will fall on the ground. I just recently purchased a horse mat upon someones advice. Basically its a large hard rubber mat that you can get for like $35 at farm supply stores. It is probably better quality then the expensive anti vibration stuff some companies sell. Regardless the thing still shakes pretty badly during the start of the spin cycle. I am tempted to file a warranty claim because I have leveled this thing over and over it has been nothing but problems. On the other hand my neighbor just bought a HE top load and the thing makes zero noise.
 

schmuckley

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Those front loaders are not good.Just about everyone I know that jumped on that bandwagon is regretting it.
 

sportage

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Reading reviews top vs front will make one insane.
It comes down to what you want.
I went front load years ago and never would consider switching back, even though the newer top loaders are pretty impressive and redesigned to work like front loaders.
Me, what I noticed and love about front loaders is that they are almost totally silent, take a lot less water, and my shirts come out inside out so I know the washer is really doing a job on the clothes. Even socks and pants have been turned inside out during the wash.

But... if you get a front loader, get the pedestal to go with it.
Not fun crawling around on the floor looking in and removing clothes after a wash.
Unless you had too much to drink and that is the preferred method of mobility.
We all been there, done that.

Ps. When I said shirts, I meant pull over shirts and sweats.
 
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CPA

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Seems we have this question about every six months.

There is one major thing you need to know about the front loaders that may help with your decision:

Eventually the gasket that connects the drum to the front panel WILL crack and leak. Repairing it is a pain in the ass and the leak can cause damage to the interior of the machine, especially if water comes in contact with any of the pump electronics.

You've been warned.
 

sportage

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Seems we have this question about every six months.

There is one major thing you need to know about the front loaders that may help with your decision:

Eventually the gasket that connects the drum to the front panel WILL crack and leak. Repairing it is a pain in the ass and the leak can cause damage to the interior of the machine, especially if water comes in contact with any of the pump electronics.

You've been warned.

The years I've owned front loaders (two total) I never had that happen once.
After 14 years the motor went out on my first.

Here again, everyone has their own experience. Top and front.
I'd concentrate more so on capacity, price, warranty and brand experience.
Be that winner either top or front.
 

Meghan54

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The years I've owned front loaders (two total) I never had that happen once.
After 14 years the motor went out on my first.

Here again, everyone has their own experience. Top and front.
I'd concentrate more so on capacity, price, warranty and brand experience.
Be that winner either top or front.


I was going to say the same thing. Our low end Frigidaire set, after 8 years of use with the last 2.5 years being fairly heavy use (>10 loads/week) never suffered from that dreaded cracking of the drum seal.

Then again, the same thing could be said of almost any rubber part in any washing machine...drain hose, etc. They all will wear out....eventually.

Overblown rhetoric, methinks.
 

JimmiG

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My previous front loader lasted 15 years. The new one (Electrolux) is much quieter than the old one. Just a muted whirring sound during the spin cycle. The old one would vibrate like crazy and move 0.5 - 1m across the floor.

Top loader is not an option here due to lack of space. With a front loader you can stuck stuff on top of it.
 

Capt Caveman

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Those front loaders are not good.Just about everyone I know that jumped on that bandwagon is regretting it.

Yet, hardly anyone here with a front loader has regretted their decision.

Front loader for me:

1. Stacked in my master bedroom for space
2. Uses 1/3 of the water of a top loader
3. Cleaner, less damage to clothing and comes out dryer
4. Use less energy to dry

Only negative is that it takes a little longer to do a wash.
 
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