Originally posted by: crystal
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: CPA
who gives a rat's ass about some violin player?
Apparently not you. :roll:
I actually know Josh Bell personally. This was not an ego thing, just a fun experiment to see if people would notice. Kinda interesting to read about/watch.
And to those calling classical music "elitist" and whatnot...hey, if you're not into the music, that's fine, but you don't have to be a dick about it.
Hehe, it's kind of ironic that you say this with your sig right below.
Haha, did you bother to read that it's a Frank Zappa quote? It's tongue-in-cheek, obviously, given the source.
No, the "-Frank Zappa" at the end of it totally confuses the hell out of us non-classical-music-listening riff raff
?? I was just responding to the guy who attacked me based on my sig. What are you saying?
That we don't know who the hell Frank Zappa is/was and take the quote as face value?
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: EKKC
what, he thinks he should get recognition? most people in subway are too busy going to/from work, they don't have their appreciation of music on their minds.
:roll:
Try reading the article. :roll: He never says anywhere that he felt he should have gotten recognition. It was just a fun experiment concocted by someone to see what would happen
Originally posted by: Tango
Well, the composers are public domain but the performers are not. I actually find myself consistently paying more for classical cds than for other genres...
But nothing beats live classical music.
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Tango
Well, the composers are public domain but the performers are not. I actually find myself consistently paying more for classical cds than for other genres...
But nothing beats live classical music.
The music is PD, the performance by a specific performer at specific venue and time would not be PD. You pay more for the good/favorite performances I don't mind buying Naxos at all.
Unfortunately I don't have time to go to concerts...
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Being a musician, I can tell you that being sucessful in the music business requires 50% talent and 50% hype. Without someone hyping him up, everyone walking by just said "hmmm...he's pretty good" and walked away. If there was an annoucement and some kind of build up to the event, people would have crowed.
However, woodwinds aren't exactly the most popular instruments these days.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Being a musician, I can tell you that being sucessful in the music business requires 50% talent and 50% hype. Without someone hyping him up, everyone walking by just said "hmmm...he's pretty good" and walked away. If there was an annoucement and some kind of build up to the event, people would have crowed.
However, woodwinds aren't exactly the most popular instruments these days.
Um, the violin is a string instrument...
Same here.Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I thought this was a really interesting article.
Originally posted by: Kaido
Sad. BUT...they went in with incorrect assumptions. People in a subway are usually off somewhere. If you've gotta be at work at 9 and you spend 5 minutes listening to watching in the subway and miss your train, you're gonna catch some flack at work. People in subways typically have specific plans as to where they are going and need to get there and not screw around. So the Post does a story on how the human race is unappreciative, when they knew that not many people would stop because they had somewhere to be.
Great essay though :thumbsup:
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Being a musician, I can tell you that being sucessful in the music business requires 50% talent and 50% hype. Without someone hyping him up, everyone walking by just said "hmmm...he's pretty good" and walked away. If there was an annoucement and some kind of build up to the event, people would have crowed.
However, woodwinds aren't exactly the most popular instruments these days.
Woodwind? That would be a clairinet or a oboe. Not quite the same family as the violin.
DOH! Not woodwind...bowed. Bowed instruments aren't very popular.
Hehe, I think you mean stringed instruments. Someone posted it above.
No, stringed instruments are very popular. Guitar, mandolin, banjo. Bowed instruments are the cello, viola, and violin.
Originally posted by: Bacstar
Out of the 3 or 4 people who had comments in the article, only one actually did recognize him. The rest had some musical background or was at one time a musician themselves.
I found it quite interesting that every child that walked by, the article stated each child wanted to stay and listen. Nowadays, I find myself stopping to listen or look at things that catch my attention. Life has a way of slipping by too fast, and i think it's a good idea now to make sure I enjoy as much of it as possible. So what... if i'm a little late for work...
Originally posted by: Looney
Very great article. And it explains perhaps why people didn't notice or pay him more attention. Lots of factors were at work, but one thing i noticed in this article was this:
There was no ethnic or demographic pattern to distinguish the people who stayed to watch Bell, or the ones who gave money, from that vast majority who hurried on past, unheeding. Whites, blacks and Asians, young and old, men and women, were represented in all three groups. But the behavior of one demographic remained absolutely consistent. Every single time a child walked past, he or she tried to stop and watch. And every single time, a parent scooted the kid away.
So i think that most people did hear it, and really did appreciate it. But they didn't want to feel guilty about passing by and not giving money, so they pretended to ignore it. Children don't feel guilt like that, so they wanted to stay and watch.
Still, ~$30 for one hour, is pretty decent, and i would say much higher than the average street performerr.
Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Originally posted by: Looney
Very great article. And it explains perhaps why people didn't notice or pay him more attention. Lots of factors were at work, but one thing i noticed in this article was this:
There was no ethnic or demographic pattern to distinguish the people who stayed to watch Bell, or the ones who gave money, from that vast majority who hurried on past, unheeding. Whites, blacks and Asians, young and old, men and women, were represented in all three groups. But the behavior of one demographic remained absolutely consistent. Every single time a child walked past, he or she tried to stop and watch. And every single time, a parent scooted the kid away.
So i think that most people did hear it, and really did appreciate it. But they didn't want to feel guilty about passing by and not giving money, so they pretended to ignore it. Children don't feel guilt like that, so they wanted to stay and watch.
Still, ~$30 for one hour, is pretty decent, and i would say much higher than the average street performerr.
A kid would stop to watch a clown making animals out of balloons, I guess that proves that clowns are art and everyone who doesn't watch clowns is a moron.
Originally posted by: Tango
Yeah... I just paid 74$ for a Richter's double cd...
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: bigdog1218
Originally posted by: Looney
Very great article. And it explains perhaps why people didn't notice or pay him more attention. Lots of factors were at work, but one thing i noticed in this article was this:
There was no ethnic or demographic pattern to distinguish the people who stayed to watch Bell, or the ones who gave money, from that vast majority who hurried on past, unheeding. Whites, blacks and Asians, young and old, men and women, were represented in all three groups. But the behavior of one demographic remained absolutely consistent. Every single time a child walked past, he or she tried to stop and watch. And every single time, a parent scooted the kid away.
So i think that most people did hear it, and really did appreciate it. But they didn't want to feel guilty about passing by and not giving money, so they pretended to ignore it. Children don't feel guilt like that, so they wanted to stay and watch.
Still, ~$30 for one hour, is pretty decent, and i would say much higher than the average street performerr.
A kid would stop to watch a clown making animals out of balloons, I guess that proves that clowns are art and everyone who doesn't watch clowns is a moron.
Well yeah, because it's entertainment to them. But would the kids stop to watch and listen to a bad performer? For some reason i doubt it.
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Kaido
Sad. BUT...they went in with incorrect assumptions. People in a subway are usually off somewhere. If you've gotta be at work at 9 and you spend 5 minutes listening to watching in the subway and miss your train, you're gonna catch some flack at work. People in subways typically have specific plans as to where they are going and need to get there and not screw around. So the Post does a story on how the human race is unappreciative, when they knew that not many people would stop because they had somewhere to be.
Great essay though :thumbsup:
Maybe it's a commentary about the human lifestyle where people are always so "busy" doing things and are in so much of a rush that they can't even slow to see such mastery of the arts even when it's technically free. If I hear someone amazing playing on the street, I like to stop for at least awhile to enjoy their talent. It's not hard to spot someone talented at the violin as an amateur at the instrument is easily spotted. Someone standing in a subway platform playing masterful pieces would lead one to believe that people would stop and at least ponder why someone so good would be playing in the subway.
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I guess the dude test drove his ego...he gambled and lost.