Torment: Tides of Numenera *Kickstarter $4 million Achieved!

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Martimus

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Yeah, but most of these studios still allow you to buy the game from their site after the Kickstarter.

Very true. Plus, you can always buy the game when it is actually released. Most of the games thus far have been the same price even, so those that helped in the kickstarter didnt even get a discount.
 

motsm

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Very true. Plus, you can always buy the game when it is actually released. Most of the games thus far have been the same price even, so those that helped in the kickstarter didnt even get a discount.
Even with Planescape Torment likely being my favorite game of all time, I didn't back this. There is very little to motivate me to buy something I won't see until 2014. If the Kickstarter was struggling, or offered collectable goods (Oh my sweet temptress!) at a value, it would probably change my mind.

:Edit: As for the discount, Project Eternity still offers a digital copy for $29, which is up only $4 from the Kickstarter. Wasteland 2 offers quite a few tiers still, and most of the lower ones look to be about $10 more than their similarly outfitted Kickstarter tiers, some of the collector edition ones look to have a bigger increase though.
 
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gothamhunter

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Even with Planescape Torment likely being my favorite game of all time, I didn't back this. There is very little to motivate me to buy something I won't see until 2014. If the Kickstarter was struggling, or offered collectable goods (Oh my sweet temptress!) at a value, it would probably change my mind.

:Edit: As for the discount, Project Eternity still offers a digital copy for $29, which is up only $4 from the Kickstarter. Wasteland 2 offers quite a few tiers still, and most of the lower ones look to be about $10 more than their similarly outfitted Kickstarter tiers, some of the collector edition ones look to have a bigger increase though.

Kidding, right?
http://tormentrpg.tumblr.com/thekstiers
 

motsm

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I said at a value. The physical goods here are very over priced. The base game is $25, and the lowest physical tier is $65, which adds some unspecified box and a manual, that doesn't justify an extra $40 to me; and the collectors edition stuff is similarly done. Don't get me wrong though, I understand that they have to charge more for this stuff than you normally would pay because the extra money is going directly into the game, and that's fine, but it's just not for me.
 

DaveSimmons

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I said at a value. The physical goods here are very over priced. The base game is $25, and the lowest physical tier is $65, which adds some unspecified box and a manual, that doesn't justify an extra $40 to me; and the collectors edition stuff is similarly done. Don't get me wrong though, I understand that they have to charge more for this stuff than you normally would pay because the extra money is going directly into the game, and that's fine, but it's just not for me.

It costs a lot more per disc, box and manual to do a small print run than the million-copy run of an AAA title. Besides the mastering, pressing, printing, and assembly the design costs are the same for 10,000 vs. 1 million. Edit: it also includes free shipping in the US, which costs them a box, postage, and more labor.

Back to the game - $4m, yay!

And if you don't already have PS:T and the other infinity engine games, get them all from GOG for $21! :
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2311974

PS:T, BG 1-2, IWD 1-2, TOEE, Neverwinter 1-2 -- enough to keep you busy until Torment ships.
 
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CrackRabbit

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He is including their paypal contributions as well. The 4M stretch goal has been achieved on according the the infograph.

Yeah, having paypal contributions separate, but still counting against the tallies for the Castoff's Labyrinth and the stretch goals is a little confusing. Especially since they have something like 2000 people and $90k to add.
 

motsm

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It costs a lot more per disc, box and manual to do a small print run than the million-copy run of an AAA title.
Some price increase is justified, but that doesn't make it any more appealing. I backed Wasteland 2 and not Torment because it offered a decent value, that's all, doesn't need to be a big discussion.
 

irishScott

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4.15 mil + paypal + 200k from Brian Fargo and Some other doner, one hour to go. Just might hit that 4.5 mark. :awe:
 

StinkyPinky

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I think it will fall just short but still a great effort. I'm hoping for some huge vast world with that type of funding.
 

DaveSimmons

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PayPal counts towards the stretch goals but I thought that Fargo had clarified that the $200K does not -- it's insurance for overruns and backup for anyone cancelling their pledges.

$4.15 + .17 paypal = 4.32 with 41 minutes to go, so I'm guessing not $4.5. It's still the most successful KS to date and we're getting everything except strongholds.
 

irishScott

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PayPal counts towards the stretch goals but I thought that Fargo had clarified that the $200K does not -- it's insurance for overruns and backup for anyone cancelling their pledges.

$4.15 + .17 paypal = 4.32 with 41 minutes to go, so I'm guessing not $4.5. It's still the most successful KS to date and we're getting everything except strongholds.

Hell with as close as they're going to get I wouldn't be surprised if they spun strongholds off into some sort of DLC. Charge $5 for it or something.
 

KaOTiK

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I wasn't too far off with my initial 4.5m guess. With kickstarter and paypal they should probably clear close to 4.3m not bad
 

irishScott

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I wasn't too far off with my initial 4.5m guess. With kickstarter and paypal they should probably clear close to 4.3m not bad

Probably even more. They listed the 4.25 goal as achieved hours ago, and a lot of money has come in since then.
 

splat_ed

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Annnndd.... Finished

Not sure if the RPG genre is saved, holding judgement until release of this and other kickstarters. But it sure is an impressive total.

For those saying we're paying normal price/more for the game, this isn't about per-ordering. It's about being an investor in the game - showing that we want a decent game, not sequel number x

Personally, in for $75.
 

dighn

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Annnndd.... Finished

Not sure if the RPG genre is saved, holding judgement until release of this and other kickstarters. But it sure is an impressive total.

For those saying we're paying normal price/more for the game, this isn't about per-ordering. It's about being an investor in the game - showing that we want a decent game, not sequel number x

Personally, in for $75.

ditto. to me this isn't about getting a deal; it's about supporting developers who care about producing unique, high quality games, it's about raising a finger to all that mainstream crap.

that said, after making 2 kickstarter pledges, I'm going to wait and see the results before putting more money into new projects.
 

DaveSimmons

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Exactly. For me it's a combination of thank-you to some of my favorite Black Isle/Obsidian/early-EA developers for their existing games, and hoping to bring back a genre that the big publishers have buried.

So far I've done Eternity, Torment, Wasteland 2 and Shadowrun for single-player story RPGs, and the Grim Dawn action-RPG.

I'm considering the Divinty RPG since the latest movie looked interesting and it has a strong focus on user modding, but I haven't played the earlier Divinty games so am a little hesitant.
 
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