Toshiba Projection TV'S, any good?

amoeba

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I have a toshiba 55 inch. got it for 1200 or so a few years ago. great TV. holding up quite well. for projections, toshiba is pretty good.

The way that plasma tv proliferation is going though, I should expect that you can get a 40 inch+ plasma for that price very soon.

 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: amoeba
I have a toshiba 55 inch. got it for 1200 or so a few years ago. great TV. holding up quite well. for projections, toshiba is pretty good.

The way that plasma tv proliferation is going though, I should expect that you can get a 40 inch+ plasma for that price very soon.

but don't Plasmas have a limited lifespan...I have an old 50 inch Hitachi from 1997 that works great to this day.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: amoeba
I have a toshiba 55 inch. got it for 1200 or so a few years ago. great TV. holding up quite well. for projections, toshiba is pretty good.

The way that plasma tv proliferation is going though, I should expect that you can get a 40 inch+ plasma for that price very soon.



Define soon.

 

amoeba

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: amoeba
I have a toshiba 55 inch. got it for 1200 or so a few years ago. great TV. holding up quite well. for projections, toshiba is pretty good.

The way that plasma tv proliferation is going though, I should expect that you can get a 40 inch+ plasma for that price very soon.

but don't Plasmas have a limited lifespan...I have an old 50 inch Hitachi from 1997 that works great to this day.



I don't know about plasma limited lifespan. not that well in tune with plasma.

problem with projection is you can never get HD. its like buying a top of the line VCR in 1997 or so, right before the DVD boom.
 

Intelman34

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Toshiba ProJo's are some of the best. Very reliable with a super bright picutre. My parents have the 57H83 and love it. HDTV looks better through component versus using DVI.

I am thinking about getting a 51H94.

IMO CRT ProJo's look much better than the new DLPs and LCD Projections.
 

welst10

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wow, pretty good price. I have a 51" (got it for 1300 plus tax and delivery) and I like it. The only problems with CRT rear projection is: 1) it's heavy, 2) it's very time consuming to tweak (converge) the 3 picture tubes. If you're not that TV savvy, get a DLP or LCD projection.
 

amoeba

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: amoeba
I have a toshiba 55 inch. got it for 1200 or so a few years ago. great TV. holding up quite well. for projections, toshiba is pretty good.

The way that plasma tv proliferation is going though, I should expect that you can get a 40 inch+ plasma for that price very soon.



Define soon.



in the next year.

hell, the local fry's had a 42inch plasma going for 1500 the day after thanksgiving, but obviously thats a one time thing. 40 inch plasma going for 1700 or 1800 should be a fairly common thing in the next year.

 

Intelman34

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Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: amoeba
I have a toshiba 55 inch. got it for 1200 or so a few years ago. great TV. holding up quite well. for projections, toshiba is pretty good.

The way that plasma tv proliferation is going though, I should expect that you can get a 40 inch+ plasma for that price very soon.



Define soon.



in the next year.

hell, the local fry's had a 42inch plasma going for 1500 the day after thanksgiving, but obviously thats a one time thing. 40 inch plasma going for 1700 or 1800 should be a fairly common thing in the next year.

The cheap plasmas are pretty crappy as of now. They are all EDTV with terrible color. The 42" Dell HD Plasma for $2900 is attractive though.
 

PatrickBateman

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I have had a 50" Toshiba proj TV for about 6 years now and it is as good as the day I bought it. My bro in law bought the 60" version a year later and is also mint.

I love it and dvd's look very nice
 

tnitsuj

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This will only be for DVD's. I was considering getting a LCD projector..but the bulb costs discouraged me.
 

amoeba

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: amoeba
problem with projection is you can never get HD.

WTF are you talking about?



Ok I take that back, I just mean HD doesn't look as good on a projection for some reason.

 

welst10

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Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: amoeba
problem with projection is you can never get HD.

WTF are you talking about?



Ok I take that back, I just mean HD doesn't look as good on a projection for some reason.

That's because CRT projection TVs require extensive tweaking, which costs $300-400 if you hire a professional technician to do it. Many people on avsforum do it themselves. But most regular people don't even know about it. They just get it out of box, turn it on and just watch it.
 

MidasKnight

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Have the 43" version of the 57H83. Have had it almost a year. It's great / clear / sharp picture. The sound system built in is very impressive. I don't even turn on my Bose system/speakers watching DVD's. Still don't have it running HD yet through Dish Network but will soon.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Intelman34
Toshiba ProJo's are some of the best. Very reliable with a super bright picutre. My parents have the 57H83 and love it. HDTV looks better through component versus using DVI.

I am thinking about getting a 51H94.

IMO CRT ProJo's look much better than the new DLPs and LCD Projections.

wow dude you must need really thick glasses ...

the only problem with that RPTV in the link is that its CRT RPTV. This means its susceptible to burnin (where as the new DLP's arent) and it weighs a ton (my new 50" DLP is only 77lbs), not to mention the picture over all isn't as great as the newer types. if you plan on gaming with your TV i would suggest not getting a CRT RPTV due to the fact that burnin can occur on them. The reason these CRT RPTV's are dropping in price is because new technology is taking over the RPTV position (dlp and lcd).

i personally wouldn't get it, but it is a great price on a 65" mammoth TV.

EDIT: and as far as DLP's go, i can tell you toshiba is good. it was between the samsung and toshiba for me, and i went with the samsung (personal opinion that it looked better). so i would assume the CRT's also look good for toshiba.
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: amoeba
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: amoeba
problem with projection is you can never get HD.

WTF are you talking about?



Ok I take that back, I just mean HD doesn't look as good on a projection for some reason.

That's because CRT projection TVs require extensive tweaking, which costs $300-400 if you hire a professional technician to do it. Many people on avsforum do it themselves. But most regular people don't even know about it. They just get it out of box, turn it on and just watch it.

Yeah, of current TVs on the market I'll take a Mitsubishi Tube Projection over everything else. Once you have it adjusted correctly nothing else on the market can touch it.
 

Intelman34

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Intelman34
Toshiba ProJo's are some of the best. Very reliable with a super bright picutre. My parents have the 57H83 and love it. HDTV looks better through component versus using DVI.

I am thinking about getting a 51H94.

IMO CRT ProJo's look much better than the new DLPs and LCD Projections.

wow dude you must need really thick glasses ...

the only problem with that RPTV in the link is that its CRT RPTV. This means its susceptible to burnin (where as the new DLP's arent) and it weighs a ton (my new 50" DLP is only 77lbs), not to mention the picture over all isn't as great as the newer types. if you plan on gaming with your TV i would suggest not getting a CRT RPTV due to the fact that burnin can occur on them. The reason these CRT RPTV's are dropping in price is because new technology is taking over the RPTV position (dlp and lcd).

i personally wouldn't get it, but it is a great price on a 65" mammoth TV.

EDIT: and as far as DLP's go, i can tell you toshiba is good. it was between the samsung and toshiba for me, and i went with the samsung (personal opinion that it looked better). so i would assume the CRT's also look good for toshiba.

I know about them bud... I have sold A/V equipment for 2 years now and kept it has a hobby since I was a kid.

The burn-in does suck and the size does suck, but the picture quality is great. I've seen a DirecTV HD feed on a Samsung HL-P5063W DLP next to a Toshiba 51H84 CRT Projo running the same feed with the same hookup. Yes, the DLP has a better viewing angle and a damn fine black level, but the CRT handled motion much better and had a much more lifelike image with more depth. Customers and fellow employees agreed. I need to try it with one of the HD2+ DLP's.... I bet i'd like the DLP then as the Toshiba and Mitsubishi DLPs with the HD2+ look stunning.

I just don't trust most DLP's yet. I am tired of getting back service return Samsung DLP's and dealing with customer problems with their DLP. It's flat out anoying. I am very interested in the xHD3 DLP chipset though.

If I had to buy a DLP now... it would definetly be the Mitsubishi 52". It is heavy at 130+lbs, but the picture quality is unmatched and I have yet to hear of a customer issue with it. I will admit... if money wasn't an option.... I'd buy a Mitsubishi DLP over a Toshiba CRT.

You are correct though... DLP, LCD Projection, HD-ILA, and LCoS (maybe) will soon be completely taking over the projection market.

I need a new TV and heck... I can't decide on what I want.
 

Papagayo

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Originally posted by: Intelman34
Toshiba ProJo's are some of the best. Very reliable with a super bright picutre. My parents have the 57H83 and love it. HDTV looks better through component versus using DVI.

I am thinking about getting a 51H94.

IMO CRT ProJo's look much better than the new DLPs and LCD Projections.


Are you smoking crack? DVI is better than Component..
If your DVI connection doesn't look good , then it's probably the digital tuner..

Plus you get additional component connections for other items.

I have HD Cable Tuner on DVI
Xbox on Component 1
DVD on Component 2

Newer Digital tuners does really well on DVI..


I
 

Intelman34

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Originally posted by: Papagayo
Originally posted by: Intelman34
Toshiba ProJo's are some of the best. Very reliable with a super bright picutre. My parents have the 57H83 and love it. HDTV looks better through component versus using DVI.

I am thinking about getting a 51H94.

IMO CRT ProJo's look much better than the new DLPs and LCD Projections.


Are you smoking crack? DVI is better than Component..
If your DVI connection doesn't look good , then it's probably the digital tuner..

Plus you get additional component connections for other items.

I have HD Cable Tuner on DVI
Xbox on Component 1
DVD on Component 2

Newer Digital tuners does really well on DVI..


I

DVI is not always better than component. It depends on the individual devices being used. Read the AVSForum... you will find those who agree with me. How did I find out component looked better on the Toshiba? I bought my parents a nice DVI cable and hooked it up without telling them hoping they would notice that the picture looks better. Nope... they called me and asked why the HD doesn't look so good anymore...


On most of the new cable HD boxes in the area... Time Warner has the DVI disabled.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: Intelman34

DVI is not always better than component. It depends on the individual devices being used. Read the AVSForum... you will find those who agree with me. How did I find out component looked better on the Toshiba? I bought my parents a nice DVI cable and hooked it up without telling them hoping they would notice that the picture looks better. Nope... they called me and asked why the HD doesn't look so good anymore....

You calibrated for both inputs individually? It's pretty rare that DVI looks worse than component, but as you said, it definitely does happen with some sets. I guess I wouldn't be that surprised Toshiba skimped on their digital to analog conversion.
 
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