**[Town Wins!]** Werewolf Mafia Game #15

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ALIVE

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You mean 4 not 5 for LUCYM0N0. There were five votes prior to Chiro's list, one of which was T_Yamamoto's. Krazy placed the 6th vote after Chiro's tally. As a result, 3 not 2 for Krazy could have been a miscount for all we know.

Chiro stated officially that he only included the top 3 lynching candidates, explaining why Dixycrat's vote for PP and PP's vote for T_Y were not included.

that is still 2 mistakes not one
thus the savant vote was not counted
and i talked for the top 3 voted people

thus the savant in not penguinpower
 

ALIVE

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as you wish
but noone is paying attention to what i say
where is the ghost talker question and answer???
nowhere cause he is dead
killed at day one

and you know that everyone is who they say because???
penguin cries for death
i do not mind not voted what a change for once
and bad team is having a party

even if krazy is the baby that does not proove dixy is the herbalist
but by all means
me and penguin are both fools do not vote for us
one fool was simple tooo fool so needed 2 to act as a normal person
so no votes to me or my fellow fool penguin
 

HamburgerBoy

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so in this scenario why the witch or the herbalist the true ones come out?!!?!? to draw attention to them?!?!? after all if you are true something you do not know who is claiming your role a good or bad so you stay hiden
as long you do not face lynch you stay hiden.

Why wouldn't they come out? Those are the exact two classes that COULD come out and make a counter-claim without fear of being eaten. They could be lynched, of course, but in such a case I think people would err on the side of lynching PP rather than 50/50 between herbalists and good witches.

I agree with a couple of points in the rest of your post, but overall it's just not convincing. If we're going to throw out wild theories, it's probably just as likely that PP is a werewolf and claims you (a fool) as an innocent as well as one other person. Not that I believe that, but the amount of chance isn't much different vs PP being a fool and all these other members playing along.
 

ALIVE

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okey going to sleep
have fun discussing the game
i make some points
if you want you take them into consideration if not
game will end sooner than you think.

roles will be revealed when game ends
so everyone can say anything

DO NOT VOTE ALIVE AND PENGUIN

well penguin was some suicidal crysis and ask for lynch just do not give it to him

as for me see you in the morning
i only wish you will not ruin the game from my side :whiste::whiste::whiste:

ALIVE IS THE FOOL DO NOT VOTE
 

ALIVE

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Why wouldn't they come out? Those are the exact two classes that COULD come out and make a counter-claim without fear of being eaten. They could be lynched, of course, but in such a case I think people would err on the side of lynching PP rather than 50/50 between herbalists and good witches.

I agree with a couple of points in the rest of your post, but overall it's just not convincing. If we're going to throw out wild theories, it's probably just as likely that PP is a werewolf and claims you (a fool) as an innocent as well as one other person. Not that I believe that, but the amount of chance isn't much different vs PP being a fool and all these other members playing along.

so if the trough herbalist come out
then what??? it is he said i said
people have so much faith people will come and say i am a liar
they wont come out cause if yamamoto and dixy are both bad
and only the good with comes out it will be 1 vs 2??
or even there will be 2 vs 2 what then???
lynch random?!?!? or leave them for the time being?!?!?!
and dixy always say he lies he lies he lies
all people assume that he is what penguin says
 

HamburgerBoy

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4 instead of 5
and 2 instead of 3

Either one of those could be explained by someone lying about their roles. See my pre-night action theory in #218, which would in fact account for both discrepancies. My point is that until we know for certain that there are no errors in the tally (or what the error is), we cannot be certain of anything based on voting records.
 

ALIVE

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I lost my powers. I can't revive anyone at night. and my vote doesn't count anymore

or maybe you say that cause you were never the good witch and you are the savant
so convenient i can not vote cause i make an eror at day one
the person that has no vote know says i can not vote?!!?!?

YAMAMOTO YOU ARE THE SAVANT
your evil must be eliminated
my final vote is for you
you already cost us the ghost teller
 

ALIVE

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Either one of those could be explained by someone lying about their roles. See my pre-night action theory in #218, which would in fact account for both discrepancies. My point is that until we know for certain that there are no errors in the tally (or what the error is), we cannot be certain of anything based on voting records.

anyway the yamamoto i can not vote suddenly is suspicious
is he is the savant of a woolf and thus he can not vote for krazy?!!??!
and thus ohhhhhhhh i can not vote
skin the evil yamamoto out of existance
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
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so if the trough herbalist come out
then what??? it is he said i said
people have so much faith people will come and say i am a liar
they wont come out cause if yamamoto and dixy are both bad
and only the good with comes out it will be 1 vs 2??
or even there will be 2 vs 2 what then???
lynch random?!?!? or leave them for the time being?!?!?!
and dixy always say he lies he lies he lies
all people assume that he is what penguin says

Yes, it would be he said she said. That's my point. As a result of that, PP is the only person that team good KNOWS is evil, and it would be a relatively safe lynch vote (unless he was the fool). Additionally, it screws with the werewolf: he isn't going to try to eat either the real herbalist (because he can't) nor the fake herbalist (because it might be another werewolf). Same applies to the good witch.
 

ALIVE

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Yes, it would be he said she said. That's my point. As a result of that, PP is the only person that team good KNOWS is evil, and it would be a relatively safe lynch vote (unless he was the fool). Additionally, it screws with the werewolf: he isn't going to try to eat either the real herbalist (because he can't) nor the fake herbalist (because it might be another werewolf). Same applies to the good witch.

and you will not also touch the penguinpower of fearing he is the fool
and mess up the game
his first words i know you will lynch me but hear me i am the savant and alive is the fool?!?!!??
so that would make 6 people out of lynching 2 fools herbalist and good witches
so people would target the rest?!?!
given how few the bad guys are then the first day lynch will take a good guy
where is again the ghost tallker story!?!?!?! have he lost him??? by lynch???
 

ALIVE

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one extreme story
lucky the baby
woolf targeted the real herbalist
or the herbalist protect someone that was targeted thus one death from the woolfs

well that is so silly even to talk with
but woolfs need to know more or less good witch and herbalist
then they can sacrifice the baby and score 2 kills at one night.

but even if krazy is the baby there is one odd compination we will not find out
cause will lead to one death
 

HamburgerBoy

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anyway the yamamoto i can not vote suddenly is suspicious
is he is the savant of a woolf and thus he can not vote for krazy?!!??!
and thus ohhhhhhhh i can not vote
skin the evil yamamoto out of existance

If T_Y is the savant, how come his vote counted against LUCYM0N0? As we've established, Chiro may have missed a vote, but he didn't say that he could have accidentally added an extra one.
 

ALIVE

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If T_Y is the savant, how come his vote counted against LUCYM0N0? As we've established, Chiro may have missed a vote, but he didn't say that he could have accidentally added an extra one.

you already said yamamoto vote was after chiro post the lynch votes
so the mistake is the 3 votes for krazy when he shows 2
one mistake as chiro says
all add up know
with yamamoto is 6 votes
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
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you already said yamamoto vote was after chiro post the lynch votes
so the mistake is the 3 votes for krazy when he shows 2
one mistake as chiro says
all add up know

No, I said Krazy's vote against LUCYM0N0 was after. T_Yamamoto was the fourth person to vote for LUCYM0N0 (which you can see for yourself), and therefore should have been a null vote if he was the savant.
 

ALIVE

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No, I said Krazy's vote against LUCYM0N0 was after. T_Yamamoto was the fourth person to vote for LUCYM0N0 (which you can see for yourself), and therefore should have been a null vote if he was the savant.

chiro said savant votes do not count for deciding the outcome of the voting???
you can vote but it wont count towards to determine the outcome
thus 3 votes to one and 3+1 from savant will give us a tie
but we had already 4 not 5 votes
argggggggggggg the vote not vote is confusing
vote but not count in the telly
count when it does not matter
 

ALIVE

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Only the apparent vote tally. You won't be directly told if some of the votes don't count, unless it is enough that an alternate player is killed instead of the apparent lynch "winner."

from chiro himself it will show as a valid as long it does not mess up the result
so yamamoto vote would show but not counted
and the 1 error as said by chiro would be the 2 not 3 to krazy
 

HamburgerBoy

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That being said, T_Yamamoto's most recent post reeks of bullshit, especially since he hasn't tried to explain it at all. If he is a baddie, I'm surprised he'd make up something like that, especially so early on.

I do agree that he wielded incredible power when he made his accusation of the bad witch, and now I am fairly suspicious that he is in fact a werewolf working with PowerPenguin. Not sure if that explains the role of you or DixyCrat in the conspiracy, however.

Of course, that almost seems too easy, so I'm very open to anything to disprove such a possibility.
 

ALIVE

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That being said, T_Yamamoto's most recent post reeks of bullshit, especially since he hasn't tried to explain it at all. If he is a baddie, I'm surprised he'd make up something like that, especially so early on.

I do agree that he wielded incredible power when he made his accusation of the bad witch, and now I am fairly suspicious that he is in fact a werewolf working with PowerPenguin. Not sure if that explains the role of you or DixyCrat in the conspiracy, however.

Of course, that almost seems too easy, so I'm very open to anything to disprove such a possibility.

penguinpower is the fool tried and failed to make people vote for him as the savant
yamamoto is the savant or a woolf happily accepting the role of the good witch
and now this!?!?!?!? i can not vote i have a penalty
thus he knows he vote does not count and we all had our doubts about him voting the lucy so?? he voted cause he could vote 5 votes counted the error was at krazy chiro said i forgot a vote

so yamamoto is a safe bet for today better than the baby
since if yamamoto is not the good witch the the bad is in the game thus
if we loose 2 villagers at night it will turn the game to the woolfs day and night

so that makes dixy the bad witch???? spirit reader choose dixy cause he believed him to be the herbalist and know dixy is sacrificing the baby to swift the game to them

as i said in a fictional scenario maybe i am the herbalist maybe i am the fool
we will see
 

HamburgerBoy

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If he is the savant, why would he bother stating that he's sorry that his vote does not count? If I was in his shoes, I'd stay quiet and wait for the next round of voting, so that someone else could possibly be accused of being a savant. I'm leaning towards daddy wolf at this point. Of course, that also means that PP was complicit in this to some extent, which implies that he too is a wolf, being that the savant does not know the wolves and vice versa, so maybe he's a good guy trying to throw others off of him. All I know right now is that I want an explanation from him.
 

ALIVE

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If he is the savant, why would he bother stating that he's sorry that his vote does not count? If I was in his shoes, I'd stay quiet and wait for the next round of voting, so that someone else could possibly be accused of being a savant. I'm leaning towards daddy wolf at this point. Of course, that also means that PP was complicit in this to some extent, which implies that he too is a wolf, being that the savant does not know the wolves and vice versa, so maybe he's a good guy trying to throw others off of him. All I know right now is that I want an explanation from him.

i said the savant before he come out with that silly post
now i look more likely he is a woolf
cause he can not vote for a fellow woolf
krazy seems to be the baby thus yamamoto not able to vote for him
and penguin is the fool cause he named the wrong people
dixy got lucky to be picked from the spirit leader so
now i think of it more calm
either he is the bad witch trying to check mate us
or he is team good and revealed the knowledge he learned
or he is bull and made that up to force a voting to someone

either way yamamoto is really suspicious right now
and a far better choice from krazy
but lets krazy tell something for his defence
 

ALIVE

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lol high magistrate where is that role also??
noone is been accused today
no ghost talker no high magistrate
hmmmm how bad was the first day???
 
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