**[Town Wins!]** Werewolf Mafia Game #15

[ALIVE]

EDIT: Damnit, nvm.

lol you post 1 mesage per day and now you prefer to say never mind please share your thoughts with us
cause my thoughts get me killed it does not mean that will happen to you :whiste::whiste::whiste::whiste:

 

[ALIVE]

My post with the current tally was supposed to show the top 3 players at risk of being lynched. I wasn't listing other players with votes, and I didn't intend to exclude any visible votes, though I may have missed one in error.

6 LUCYM0N0
3 krazy
2 alive
1 yamamoto
1 penguin power

as stated public of course the savant vote will not count

 

[PenguinPower]

by the way where is the ghost talker question!?!?!??!
so either he missed doing that
or he was allready dead
thus lucky was the ghost talker??
or the ghost talker was out!!?!!??!
some more thought for the brain

You are trying way too hard to convince people that I was lying and that you are not the fool.

 

[ALIVE]

i like this aproach of not revealing too much info it makes the game darker

well i tried in the last game i host and everyone was complain and guess what killed me at first day next game lol

 

[ALIVE]

You are trying way too hard to convince people that I was lying and that you are not the fool.

strange post you choose to reply the one that talked about ghost talker?!?!?
well i point out some things what the other will do is their one business
i made day 2 so now i am happy
and after all because you say you are the savant it does not means you are also that PPP

and i made you a favor i asked noone to lynch for you what more you want?!?!?!
the town wont lynch you cause they afraid you are the fool
the woolfs wont eat you cause you might be the savant
so you will see the whole game

only a FOOL would complain at this point penguinpower

 

[ALIVE]

the title change to day 2????

 

[HamburgerBoy]

My post with the current tally was supposed to show the top 3 players at risk of being lynched. I wasn't listing other players with votes, and I didn't intend to exclude any visible votes, though I may have missed one in error.

Ah, ok, thanks for the clarification. That explains quite a bit.

lol you post 1 mesage per day and now you prefer to say never mind please share your thoughts with us
cause my thoughts get me killed it does not mean that will happen to you :whiste::whiste::whiste::whiste:

I'm not at my home computer where my notes are, so I've posted a few theories and to realize I don't have the exact numbers to back them up. However, Chiro's post I quoted above destroys the theories I had anyways.

Right now I'm tempted to believe DixyCrat, especially since that if dustb0wlkid really was the spirit reader, it would make sense to give info to the one guy that will definitely be around to tell the tale (although DixyCrat could know that and play that angle). I'm not sure that I want to kill the baby werewolf however, since the alpha basically knows all of team bad (assuming PP wasn't lying; if there are no 2 mystery lynch votes tonight, it would imply that LUCYM0N0 was indeed the bad witch). If we kill the baby, it just means two good people dying tonight instead of one.

 

[PenguinPower]

strange post you choose to reply the one that talked about ghost talker?!?!?
well i point out some things what the other will do is their one business
i made day 2 so now i am happy
and after all because you say you are the savant it does not means you are also that PPP

and i made you a favor i asked noone to lynch for you what more you want?!?!?!
the town wont lynch you cause they afraid you are the fool
the woolfs wont eat you cause you might be the savant
so you will see the whole game

only a FOOL would complain at this point penguinpower

That's fine. I don't care if people vote for me or not. I just don't want you to win, so I really don't want them voting for you.

 

[ALIVE]

That's fine. I don't care if people vote for me or not. I just don't want you to win, so I really don't want them voting for you.

exacly fool you have no problem people voting on you
but we surelly have

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Actually, further determining the truthiness of DixyCrat in this game would be worth two innocents dying by the claw of an angry werewolf, so I'll vote Krazy4Real.

by the way where is the ghost talker question!?!?!??!
so either he missed doing that
or he was allready dead
thus lucky was the ghost talker??
or the ghost talker was out!!?!!??!
some more thought for the brain

Hmm, good point. I assume that LUCYM0N0 is the only player that the ghost talker could have asked a question. Maybe ElFenix, seemingly afk, was the ghost talker?

 

[ALIVE]

Ah, ok, thanks for the clarification. That explains quite a bit.



I'm not at my home computer where my notes are, so I've posted a few theories and to realize I don't have the exact numbers to back them up. However, Chiro's post I quoted above destroys the theories I had anyways.

Right now I'm tempted to believe DixyCrat, especially since that if dustb0wlkid really was the spirit reader, it would make sense to give info to the one guy that will definitely be around to tell the tale (although DixyCrat could know that and play that angle). I'm not sure that I want to kill the baby werewolf however, since the alpha basically knows all of team bad (assuming PP wasn't lying; if there are no 2 mystery lynch votes tonight, it would imply that LUCYM0N0 was indeed the bad witch). If we kill the baby, it just means two good people dying tonight instead of one.

well yamamoto vote for the bad witch!?!?!?
when he could not have done it you said it yourself so many times
dixycrat kept calling penguin a liar

and dixys suggestions for today will destroy team good if they are true.

woolfs fear the good witch as long she heals noone the woolf that tries to kill her dies
since noone talks noone knows who was the witch??
is it yamamoto and made a mistake voting !?!?!?

bad witch is in a bad situation she does not want to vote random cause she does not know team bad
so who knows maybe the bad witch did not sent any actions
remember chiro i wait for night actions!?!??! witch trying to play low?!?!?!?

 

[ALIVE]

Actually, further determining the truthiness of DixyCrat in this game would be worth two innocents dying by the claw of an angry werewolf, so I'll vote Krazy4Real.



Hmm, good point. I assume that LUCYM0N0 is the only player that the ghost talker could have asked a question. Maybe ElFenix, seemingly afk, was the ghost talker?

and if the bad witch is still alive then what??
the woolf will also lynch us during the game??
if dixycrat is the bad witch and lets saz the spirit reader choose him
and randomly learned the baby woolf?!?!?
he sacrifices the woolf
knows woolfs want attact him cause they thign his is the herbalist and then
at night cast 2 votes to swift the voting at day and hmmmmmmmm
wooolfs will be killing us day and night

hamburger boy you sound more and more as a woolf yourself

 

[PenguinPower]

exacly fool you have no problem people voting on you
but we surelly have

:sigh;

 

[HamburgerBoy]

and if the bad witch is still alive then what??
the woolf will also lynch us during the game??
if dixycrat is the bad witch and lets saz the spirit reader choose him
and randomly learned the baby woolf?!?!?
he sacrifices the woolf
knows woolfs want attact him cause they thign his is the herbalist and then
at night cast 2 votes to swift the voting at day and hmmmmmmmm
wooolfs will be killing us day and night

hamburger boy you sound more and more as a woolf yourself

What makes you so certain that Dixy is the bad witch? I'll admit that he is being ambiguous at best (first he calls PP a liar, then he admits to being a herbalist, then he calls PP a liar again), but couldn't he be a number of things? It's not surprising that the big players of team good wouldn't want their roles pulled out in the open, and that DixyCrat would try to have PP not believed.

I agree that having 2 villagers tonight isn't ideal; it would be much better to kill the baby last. However, if two villagers are eaten following Krazy's lynching, it is yet another bit of evidence indicating that Dixy is indeed the herbalist. If someone wants to counter-claim Dixy, however, I am all ears.

 

[JujuFish]

If PenguinPower is actually the fool, he's a pretty damn lucky fool to somehow name 4 good players, none of whom dispute his claim about their role. If he were one of the bad guys that knows two other bad guys, he'd still have to be lucky in his other claims.

I see no other choice but believing ALIVE is the fool.

 

[MonKENy]

based on what I am seeing my guess would be alive is a fool, I mean the fool Hes on top of the list thus far.

 

[ALIVE]

What makes you so certain that Dixy is the bad witch? I'll admit that he is being ambiguous at best (first he calls PP a liar, then he admits to being a herbalist, then he calls PP a liar again), but couldn't he be a number of things? It's not surprising that the big players of team good wouldn't want their roles pulled out in the open, and that DixyCrat would try to have PP not believed.

I agree that having 2 villagers tonight isn't ideal; it would be much better to kill the baby last. However, if two villagers are eaten following Krazy's lynching, it is yet another bit of evidence indicating that Dixy is indeed the herbalist. If someone wants to counter-claim Dixy, however, I am all ears.

well the question are 2?
1)fist if someone says you are the herbalist why not say yes???
the good team will not lynch you and the woolfs wont try to eat you??
so being good or bad is a good role to hide. and badwitch or the savant needs hiding from the woolfs also
2) well the spirit reader will be someone and he will learn random so that not makes dixy the herbalist only that he claims to be choosen to learn a role at night.
3) so even if the woolfs eat 2 will only proove that dixy was choosen by the spirit reader.
4) is the bad witch dead?!?!?!

if not is a suicide to kill the baby right now.
witch lives kill the baby and game won by woolfs

penguin is still calling for people to kill him!!!!!!!!! how foolish that is??
the savant would like to stay alive the more he could. and if he lies the true savant wont come out saying i am the true one lol

also the voting incident with yamamotot!?!?!?!!?

savant is either alive, monkey or highland
cause chiro said 2 votes when there should be 3

so is not these a good lead to follow?!?!?!!?!?!??!
also dixycrat suggestions is bad
and if he is a woolf he can sacrifice the baby???

town must not play random if it wants to win
and surelly dixy is giving bad advice

 

[HamburgerBoy]

well the question are 2?
1)fist if someone says you are the herbalist why not say yes???
the good team will not lynch you and the woolfs wont try to eat you??
so being good or bad is a good role to hide. and badwitch or the savant needs hiding from the woolfs also

Wouldn't it be better that a werewolf waste a meal on someone he DIDN'T know was the herbalist?

2) well the spirit reader will be someone and he will learn random so that not makes dixy the herbalist only that he claims to be choosen to learn a role at night.

Uh, I don't understand this at all. As I understand the roles, the spirit reader picks one person to learn the identity of someone randomly. As I've said, the spirit reader, if the claimed herbalist isn't lying, would know for a fact that his message would get through. It's not airtight right now whether Dixy is lying or not, but the probability of everything else PLUS two villagers eaten after Krazy's lynching is so low that it's good enough for me.

3) so even if the woolfs eat 2 will only proove that dixy was choosen by the spirit reader.

Ok, that's true. I think I get your point now. However, the alpha can't vote against a cub, which means that either he'd be breaking the rules or that there will be at least one missing vote against Krazy when we see the tally.

4) is the bad witch dead?!?!?!

If two mysterious votes appear tonight, we'll know he isn't. If not, it's a good possibility (although I don't think the bad witch HAS to vote).

if not is a suicide to kill the baby right now.
witch lives kill the baby and game won by woolfs

penguin is still calling for people to kill him!!!!!!!!! how foolish that is??
the savant would like to stay alive the more he could. and if he lies the true savant wont come out saying i am the true one lol

also the voting incident with yamamotot!?!?!?!!?

savant is either alive, monkey or highland
cause chiro said 2 votes when there should be 3

so is not these a good lead to follow?!?!?!!?!?!??!
also dixycrat suggestions is bad
and if he is a woolf he can sacrifice the baby???

town must not play random if it wants to win
and surelly dixy is giving bad advice

My previous explanation for the Krazy discrepancy was that you, MonKENy, or Highland is witch X and Krazy is witch Y. This would also fix the T_Yamamoto problem. PP would still be the savant, although it would mean that he lied about T_Yamamoto AND that T_Y accepted the lie (which is possible, but risky to say the least). However, clarification on the voting tally kind of screwed that theory up for me, so I'm not sure what to say right now. I'll have to check my notes at home later.

EDIT: And Chiro also said there may have been an error in his tally. To me this makes it hard to determine anything from the tally.

 

[ALIVE]

If PenguinPower is actually the fool, he's a pretty damn lucky fool to somehow name 4 good players, none of whom dispute his claim about their role. If he were one of the bad guys that knows two other bad guys, he'd still have to be lucky in his other claims.

I see no other choice but believing ALIVE is the fool.

come on who does not want the the cover of the herbalist or the witch???
dust did not say anything if it penguin was telling the truth??

and by the way i have no problem if you believe that i am the fool
that mean no votes for me

so named 4 people
i called him a liar dust did not confirm it
so that leaves 2 people confirming!?!?!?!?
actually because yamamoto said a name does not make him the good the witch?? does it????
so far may we have lost 2 good players already lost
where is the ghost talker story??
is he dead or forgot to ask???
he could ask lucu are you the bad witch???
and then all would know
but ghost talker is dead?!?!?!?! or mising
and know kill the baby so the woolf can have 2 kills?!?!?!
great lets go for game 16 this one is owned by the woolfs

 

[ALIVE]

based on what I am seeing my guess would be alive is a fool, I mean the fool Hes on top of the list thus far.

so i call you the savant and you call me the fool
thank you is a role i do not mind people giving it to me
at least i will be the last standing at the
game and win with my team
the good or the bad (not to tell right now)

 

[ALIVE]

chiro talked of an eror not counting a vote
there are 2 votes error from the numbers chiro posted
6 not 5 for lucy
3 not 2 for krazy

penguinpower voted for yamamoto so it is irelevant

also the savant vote will not count
witch to witch is not allowed
one vote error so that leaves us with the other error or an indication
that savant is not penguinpower thus thats why chiro did not count it

chiro is having a closed game so you must be carefully for the details
one detail is the not counting vote of savant?!?!?
thus savant is not penguin savant would not voted for the witch not in the first round well everything is pale even if he vote did not count he would not wanted to give wrong impresions

the only guestion is ghost talker
killed by lynch or eaten by the woolfs???

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You mean 4 not 5 for LUCYM0N0. There were five votes prior to Chiro's list, one of which was T_Yamamoto's. Krazy placed the 6th vote after Chiro's tally. As a result, 3 not 2 for Krazy could have been a miscount for all we know.

Chiro stated officially that he only included the top 3 lynching candidates, explaining why Dixycrat's vote for PP and PP's vote for T_Y were not included.

 

[PenguinPower]

I do have to say, regardless of what happens this is the most interesting and participative game so far.

Oh, and Alive is the Fool.

 

[ALIVE]

lets consider this fictional scenario
dixy for the fun is a mason
yamamoto is a woolf
me is herbalist
dust is the spirit reader

the fool comes plays the savant card and says
dixy is herbalist
yamamoto is good witch
me is the fool
dust is the spirit leader (lets sat he got one but luck)

dixy will say i am the herbalist why not. town wont lynch him woolfs wont eat him and if woolf targered the real herbalist will loose a turn win win for the town
yamamoto just have to give a name he can vote thus no woolf which hmmm he has voted and then said oups. also town will not try to lynch him at lynch at early rounds
me accused as the fool noone will not vote for me sure it is a nice cover role also
dust no protection nothing from the wolfs remains silent and says nothing

so in this scenario why the witch or the herbalist the true ones come out?!!?!? to draw attention to them?!?!? after all if you are true something you do not know who is claiming your role a good or bad so you stay hiden
as long you do not face lynch you stay hiden.

and what penguin the savant says all the time kill me vote for me
so foolish words

so
as we see in this fictional scenario either good or bad you simple say yes if they give you the role of the herbalist or the good witch
unfortunetely i can not accept the safety of the fool cause that mean penguin will be lynched and win the game i want to win more than penguinpower wants to win
what ever you do do not vote for penguin
and not for me also would be nice but the team is above all
and penguin power stated i will destroy the team by revealing i am the savant so not that teamplay unless you are the fool

 

[drum]

I'm thinking pretty much everyone is who has been claimed. PP-savant, dixy-pot smoking hippy, t-yam-good witch that F-ed up his vote, alive-fool.
which would also mean Krazy4real = baby wolf.
I am going to wait until I see more discussion tomorrow before voting for krazy, which is what I will be doing unless otherwise moved.