The problem is people who won't give AMD any credit whatsoever. This relatively small company that was left for dead going to to toe with a foe who is probably 20x their size.
The problem is people who won't give AMD any credit whatsoever. This relatively small company that was left for dead going to to toe with a foe who is probably 20x their size.
Lisa Su, she is an impressive ceo to say the least. I bet Intel would take her in a heartbeat.Lisa Su has done an amazing job turning AMD around.
As for those silly guys you mentioned....They're in denial still.
Lisa Su, she is an impressive ceo to say the least. I bet Intel would take her in a heartbeat.
Let's hope that there are other motivators for her more powerful than money since Intel has a much larger piggy bank to entice her away with.
In the first place, where was Conroe mentioned ? Second, Conroe was over 10 years ago, it was great then, but we are talking about TODAY ! Give us a break. And sour grapes ? Over what ? The stuff Intel pulled that cost them over a billion dollars for cheating ? This entire thread is about the fact that Intel acknowledges that AMD is very competitive . So why are you in denial ?
You cant talk about the market share gains without talking about the product. Conroe, and Bulldozer were both a big reason AMD went in the toilet. The "sour grapes" I mention are the continual making of excuses for AMDs loss of market share in that time by blaming it on Intel marketing practices. Even if the tables were turned, and intel was , in your opinion, perfectly honest and AMD adopted the tactics you accuse intel of, are you really trying to say Bulldozer would have taken over the market? And I never said AMD isnt "competitive" now.
As Markfw wrote it was you who mentioned Conroe first. When talking about Intel fixing its market dominance by (convinced) illegal means the time scale is all the years before Conroe and Bulldozer, not after.You cant talk about the market share gains without talking about the product. Conroe, and Bulldozer were both a big reason AMD went in the toilet. The "sour grapes" I mention are the continual making of excuses for AMDs loss of market share in that time by blaming it on Intel marketing practices. Even if the tables were turned, and intel was , in your opinion, perfectly honest and AMD adopted the tactics you accuse intel of, are you really trying to say Bulldozer would have taken over the market? And I never said AMD isnt "competitive" now.
In retrospect, Rory Read also deserves some credit for laying the groundwork, since he was the one who made the decision to pull the plug on further Bulldozer family development and rehire Jim Keller.Lisa Su has done an amazing job turning AMD around.
In retrospect, Rory Read also deserves some credit for laying the groundwork, since he was the one who made the decision to pull the plug on further Bulldozer family development and rehire Jim Keller.
Admittedly, Read did kinda screw up by not having any immediate replacement product and thus letting Intel run riot during the Haswell and early Skylake era, but even that's now looking more and more like a case of short-term pain for long-term gain.
True, AMD aren't in as much of a position as Intel to be able to pull Emergency Edition-type product launches, but there was a gap of nearly four years between the releases of the FX-9590 and Zen where AMD literally had nothing new to compete against Intel's quad-core mainstream chips.If there was nothing in the pipeline to replace a failed bulldozer, I'm not sure what Reed could have done other than to stop throwing good money after bad.
With AMD's budget, would you have shrunk/facelifted K10 and still end up behind intel, or just ride out bulldozer while funding development of the new arch we know as zen? Not really sure what other options they had, with how long development cycles are in this industry.
You cant talk about the market share gains without talking about the product. Conroe, and Bulldozer were both a big reason AMD went in the toilet.
Indeed. Rory Read's years were all about the semi-custom business and paving the way for Lisa Su. I wouldn't even call his focus on (constantly underrated) semi-custom "ebb" years since that allowed AMD to achieve the flexibility (IP blocks, design independent from foundry nodes) they now use well as well as plenty industry contacts which they make increasing better use of as well.Zen was started under Rory Reed as was the semi custom unit. He did what he was supposed to do and passed the reins on to Lisa Su, who was hired under Rory Reed leadership as was Mark Papermaster.
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And of course as was Jim Keller.
Maybe Intel should just revive Xeon Phi to have a chip competitive at core and thread count...
https://www.techpowerup.com/256842/...that-even-intel-is-impressed-by-amds-progress
There are some good nuggets in there.
on direct memory access - https://ondma.com/ondma is amdno backwards ?
I rest my case
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