Trade in value of SUVs is crashing

[dennilfloss]

Who cares about trading value? Do you people change your car so often that it makes a difference?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: BUTCH1
I just rent a truck@ home depot whenever I have something that can't be carried
in a car. $20 for the first 75 minutes. Why someone would buy a vehicle that even
greedy car dealers wont take in trade is baffling to me... I've also noticed large trucks
and SUV's driving ever slower and running W/ no AC on as their owners try to coax
mileage out of their lumbering beasts.. HAHAHAHAH, joke's on you shit for brains!..

If we're lucky, one of those truck drivers will run you down so we never have to see you post here again.

Your not that lucky..or smart since you must have bought one-Hey I've got an idea,
drive it to the nearest sand pit and burn it for the insurance$$ before it's value drops
to nil...

Nope, don't own a truck or SUV. But I would pay good money to see you run over by one.

 

[rbV5]

I know a guy who bought a Ford F-250 and a huge trailer to haul his family around once a year for a week or two. How do you rationalize that?

Same way someone may rationalize 33000+ mostly meaningless posts to a bunch of mostly disinterested strangers over a relatively short period of time. At first glance, it may seem a little ....but, they probably have reasons that make sense to.......<get this>..... THEM?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: rbV5
OK, how about if you DON'T own a SUV, or large truck and yet you complain about someone elses decisions and the price of someone elses fuel..wtf does that make you then? Just curious.

well, if people didn't drive giant trucks there would be less demand for gasoline and so the price would be lower.

Well, it's easier to blame iconic SUV owners than weak dollar policies and our involvment in the Middle East. Its easier to blame SUV owners than Gov policies for fuel economy standards. Its easier to blame SUV owners than speculators in the commodities markets and its certainly easier to blame lump all SUV owners as the bad guy when its "they" instead of "Me"

don't confuse me with an SUV basher. you specifically asked about SUVs. i couldn't give a rat's ass what people drove. i just want people to pay the proper price for it, and take responsibility for their choices.

 

[StrangeRanger]

Do some of you really think the number of big pick-ups or SUV's on the road, or not on the road, will make a shit of difference to gas prices? Gas prices are only a small part of the problem. If someone choose to buy a truck or SUV, so be it. It's their problem to feed it. And those that whine about "I can't see around them" etc., suck it up, get over, quit being such a little bitch.

The real problem is how the cost of oil is affecting every other aspect of our lives. Look how much your heating bills/groceries/consumables are increasing. Look how much building supplies are increasing. Look at how it's affecting truckers and shippers, road crews, emergency vehicles, power plants, production facilities, recycling facilities etc. I was at a fueling station the other day and the FTE (full trucker effect) in line ahead of me was paying for his truck fill up... $465!!! I almost shat myself right there in line.

How much of an increase in things do you need to see before you realize the problem is much worse than simply gas prices?
j

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
What's amusing is that I've already met a few idiots who need their gas guzzlers (hauling their campers or boats on the weekend, etc.), but have spent over $10,000 on an extra vehicle just to "save money" on gas. i.e. "We'll make an extra $300 a month car payment, just to avoid paying an extra $100 a month for gas.

My wife has a Grand Caravan for her commuter. Gas price? Ouch. It's the family vehicle though. Not many other vehicles really fit our needs except for worse gas guzzlers along the SUV line.

maybe it's the principle of it that bothers them? hahaha

 

[desy]

Yep everytime I tried to talk the wife into an SUV it always came back
Does it have as good as gas mileage as the van with the same storage.
no
No SUV for you ! I've owned a couple in the past and I did enjoy them but life BK now I have to haul their little carcasses around and all their stuff.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: rbV5
OK, how about if you DON'T own a SUV, or large truck and yet you complain about someone elses decisions and the price of someone elses fuel..wtf does that make you then? Just curious.

well, if people didn't drive giant trucks there would be less demand for gasoline and so the price would be lower.

Well, it's easier to blame iconic SUV owners than weak dollar policies and our involvment in the Middle East. Its easier to blame SUV owners than Gov policies for fuel economy standards. Its easier to blame SUV owners than speculators in the commodities markets and its certainly easier to blame lump all SUV owners as the bad guy when its "they" instead of "Me"

don't confuse me with an SUV basher. you specifically asked about SUVs. i couldn't give a rat's ass what people drove. i just want people to pay the proper price for it, and take responsibility for their choices.

*How do you determine the proper price for it? How do you determine responsibility?

*Is it more important in terms of the price of fuel at the pump that MY car get better fuel economy relative to YOUR car, or is it more important that MY car uses less fuel in May relative to what YOUR car uses in May?

*If the price of crude oil is rising relative to the value of the dollar as economist suggest rather than free market supply/demand , is this Countries financial policy to blame, Big Business, or individual drivers?

*Is crude oil a supply issue or an environmental issue? How much oil reserves are ultimately available worlwide, and how long before they run out?

*If you only use your RV to sit in the driveway to watch NASCAR should you be more embarrassed because;
a) You're a NASCAR fan? (and they burn all that fuel!)
b) Your neighbor notices that you have absolutely no rational reason to have that beast and you haven't used your hot tub in ages?

 

[ElFenix]

*How do you determine the proper price for it? How do you determine responsibility?

same way everything else is determined. various studies and experts battling back and forth, with an eventual compromise decision that gets it close enough. better than people who use less oil subsidizing people who use more.

*Is it more important in terms of the price of fuel at the pump that MY car get better fuel economy relative to YOUR car, or is it more important that MY car uses less fuel in May relative to what YOUR car uses in May?

who cares? if the price more accurately reflects the true cost of the use of oil then we'll reach a much more efficient outcome than what we've got now.

*If the price of crude oil is rising relative to the value of the dollar as economist suggest rather than free market supply/demand , is this Countries financial policy to blame, Big Business, or individual drivers?

what are you talking about? i can't answer incoherent questions.

*Is crude oil a supply issue or an environmental issue? How much oil reserves are ultimately available worlwide, and how long before they run out?

ask a petroleum engineer.

*If you only use your RV to sit in the driveway to watch NASCAR should you be more embarrassed because;
a) You're a NASCAR fan? (and they burn all that fuel!)
b) Your neighbor notices that you have absolutely no rational reason to have that beast and you haven't used your hot tub in ages?

ummk

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: rbV5

*How do you determine the proper price for it? How do you determine responsibility?

same way everything else is determined. various studies and experts battling back and forth, with an eventual compromise decision that gets it close enough. better than people who use less oil subsidizing people who use more.[/b]

OK, so which is it? "better than people who use less oil subsidizing people who use more", or "who cares" (as in, who cares if you USE less" from your next answer.

*Is it more important in terms of the price of fuel at the pump that MY car get better fuel economy relative to YOUR car, or is it more important that MY car uses less fuel in May relative to what YOUR car uses in May?

who cares? if the price more accurately reflects the true cost of the use of oil then we'll reach a much more efficient outcome than what we've got now.

So now you don't care if I actually USE LESS?

*If the price of crude oil is rising relative to the value of the dollar as economist suggest rather than free market supply/demand , is this Countries financial policy to blame, Big Business, or individual drivers?

what are you talking about? i can't answer incoherent questions.

Investors are dumping the US Dollar and flocking to speculation in Crude Oil commodities. So, as the value of the US dollar drops due to the"weak dollar" policies of the Fed concerning lower interest rates and providing huge amounts of capital influx into the financial sector, the price of Crude Oil rises..ultimately raising the cost of fuel at the pump...whos to blame?

*Is crude oil a supply issue or an environmental issue? How much oil reserves are ultimately available worlwide, and how long before they run out?

ask a petroleum engineer.[/quote]

Isn't that pretty much a "bullshitters quess" considering Oil producers themselves aren't exactly forthcoming with the amount of their actual reserves, new huge oil field discoveries with unknown quantities (just heard of a huge find off the coast of Brazil) and new techniques for extracting from Canada's huge reseves of Oil Sands/Shale and also recent new discoveries (Huge) in the Dakotas?

*If you only use your RV to sit in the driveway to watch NASCAR should you be more embarrassed because;
a) You're a NASCAR fan? (and they burn all that fuel!)
b) Your neighbor notices that you have absolutely no rational reason to have that beast and you haven't used your hot tub in ages?

ummk[/quote]

 

[TallPilot]

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Just bought a new RAV4. I'm sure I won't have any problem trading it in a few years from now.

A few years from now, that will be a gas hog!

 

[ElFenix]

as long as the costs are properly accounted for in the price it does not matter whether you use more or less than someone else. if the costs are properly indicated in the price then people who use less are not subsidizing those who use more. right now, because the costs are not properly accounted for in the price, those who use less are subsidizing those who use more. so, if the price did reflect the costs, the correct answer is who cares? the only reason anyone cares is because the price does not currently reflect the costs.

Investors are dumping the US Dollar and flocking to speculation in Crude Oil commodities. So, as the value of the US dollar drops due to the"weak dollar" policies of the Fed concerning lower interest rates and providing huge amounts of capital influx into the financial sector, the price of Crude Oil rises..ultimately raising the cost of fuel at the pump...whos to blame?

i don't know, and it's not really relevant to what i'm talking about, so i'm not going to get dragged into your argument about it.

Isn't that pretty much a "bullshitters quess" considering Oil producers themselves aren't exactly forthcoming with the amount of their actual reserves, new huge oil field discoveries with unknown quantities (just heard of a huge find off the coast of Brazil) and new techniques for extracting from Canada's huge reseves of Oil Sands/Shale and also recent new discoveries (Huge) in the Dakotas?

there is uncertainty in anything. if i knew for a fact i sure as hell wouldn't publicize it on an internet message board. i'd be off making money.