HannibalX

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Well, it's 5:07. Time to head out into the madness that is Orlando traffic. There are 2 million people in the Orlando metro and no viable mass transit, not to mention that no part of this area is realistically walkable. So, our traffic sucks and I'm about to go do my part!
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
36,041
472
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Well, it's 5:07. Time to head out into the madness that is Orlando traffic. There are 2 million people in the Orlando metro and no viable mass transit, not to mention that no part of this area is realistically walkable. So, our traffic sucks and I'm about to go do my part!

You know nothing about real traffic. LA traffic is infinitely worse with infinitely more people. LA Metro has 12.9 million people.
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
31,046
321
136
but it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest
'twas the low spark of high heeled boys
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,143
30,095
146
You know nothing about real traffic. LA traffic is infinitely worse with infinitely more people. LA Metro has 12.9 million people.

LA sucks donkey dick for traffic, that's for sure.

It seems like there is no escape, though I've only driven through a few times and on only 2-4 of the expressways.
 

DingDingDao

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srsly. i used to think norcal/bay area traffic was bad til i lived a year in the Inland Empire... <shiver>

Yup. The problem with the traffic in LA IMO stems from four major factors:

1) Mass transit here sucks.
2) Commute distances are far (compared to places like SF, NY, Boston, etc.)
3) Traffic density is ridiculously high (no one carpools or rides buses).
4) Fairweather drivers - As soon as the weather turns even mildly bad (i.e. light rain) people shit in their pants and traffic turns into a clusterfuck.
 

JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
26,271
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Well, it's 5:07. Time to head out into the madness that is Orlando traffic. There are 2 million people in the Orlando metro and no viable mass transit, not to mention that no part of this area is realistically walkable. So, our traffic sucks and I'm about to go do my part!

You do not know what traffic is unless you've experienced LA traffic. Trust me on this.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,534
911
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Well, it's 5:07. Time to head out into the madness that is Orlando traffic. There are 2 million people in the Orlando metro and no viable mass transit, not to mention that no part of this area is realistically walkable. So, our traffic sucks and I'm about to go do my part!

Have they put in any decent roadways in the Orlando area? Last time I was there it was all 2 lane roads with zero shoulder...at least that's how it was outside of the city.

I hate Florida. Too humid, too flat, and way too many old people.
 

joesmoke

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Yup. The problem with the traffic in LA IMO stems from four major factors:

1) Mass transit here sucks.
2) Commute distances are far (compared to places like SF, NY, Boston, etc.)
3) Traffic density is ridiculously high (no one carpools or rides buses).
4) Fairweather drivers - As soon as the weather turns even mildly bad (i.e. light rain) people shit in their pants and traffic turns into a clusterfuck.

2 n 3 kinda come with the territory but 1 n 4 are what really shocked me, 'specially 4. It never failed, even a light drizzle and people start crashing into each other. 45 minute commutes turn to 2 hours...
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,143
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146
2 n 3 kinda come with the territory but 1 n 4 are what really shocked me, 'specially 4. It never failed, even a light drizzle and people start crashing into each other. 45 minute commutes turn to 2 hours...

I'm not sure if this happens in LA, but here in the Bay Area, not a traffic report goes by without mention of a mattress, fridge, large steel cylinders, office chair, sofa, blah blah blah, lying in the middle of one of the expressways.

What is it with these people? does no one know, or even care, how to secure their fucking loads?
 

jtvang125

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Nov 10, 2004
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Not to mention all the idiots that brake and slow down to read those lighted warning signs. I mean really, how hard is it to read "Accident on 10. Left left land blocked". Can't even count all the times I had to slam on my brakes cause everyone slows down to read the damn thing.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Not to mention all the idiots that brake and slow down to read those lighted warning signs. I mean really, how hard is it to read "Accident on 10. Left left land blocked". Can't even count all the times I had to slam on my brakes cause everyone slows down to read the damn thing.

That and all the looky-loos who drive slow just to see two people that had a little fender bender and are parked in the emergency lane.
 

HannibalX

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May 12, 2000
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I've lived and experienced traffic all over this country including LA, DC, Chicago, Cleveland, Nashville, Tampa, Miami and find that every metro area is terrible when it comes to traffic, one not being more so than the other because it largely depends on what route you're taking, distance, proximity to freeways, etc.

When it comes to Orlando, if you don't have a car in this town you're screwed, plain and simple. If I were to take the bus to work each day the ride would be 4 hours. You heard that right, 4 hours. It just took me 50 minutes to go 7.4 miles by car.

Jules, the old people in Florida don't live in the urban areas, they live out in little communities by themselves for the most part. Orlando has one single Interstate that runs north/south. This interstate was designed for 20k cars/day - right now it's getting around 625k cars/day. The majority of the road is 3 lane each way with sections of 4 lanes in a few areas. All of the other usefull, dedicated highways are toll roads so your options are take city streets everywhere you go and sit for hours in traffic OR pay up. SR408 runs east/west through town and is the busiest. When I moved to Orlando in 1993 it was just being complete and was 2 lanes each way, now it's 4 lanes each way in most places and still comes to gridlock. SR429 is a newer road which runs north/south on the far west end and is usually flowing ok - it's getting to it that's the problem. SR417 runs north/south on the far east end and typically runs smoothly but again, it's getting two it. The FL Turnpike runs through Orlando with exactly four exits so for the majority of people it's completely useless.

If you asked me a few years ago where I thought the most terrible traffic was I would say Atlanta. Dear god I have wasted a lot of time in Atlanta traffic.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
74,534
911
126
I've lived and experienced traffic all over this country including LA, DC, Chicago, Cleveland, Nashville, Tampa, Miami and find that every metro area is terrible when it comes to traffic, one not being more so than the other because it largely depends on what route you're taking, distance, proximity to freeways, etc.

When it comes to Orlando, if you don't have a car in this town you're screwed, plain and simple. If I were to take the bus to work each day the ride would be 4 hours. You heard that right, 4 hours. It just took me 50 minutes to go 7.4 miles by car.

Jules, the old people in Florida don't live in the urban areas, they live out in little communities by themselves for the most part. Orlando has one single Interstate that runs north/south. This interstate was designed for 20k cars/day - right now it's getting around 625k cars/day. The majority of the road is 3 lane each way with sections of 4 lanes in a few areas. All of the other usefull, dedicated highways are toll roads so your options are take city streets everywhere you go and sit for hours in traffic OR pay up. SR408 runs east/west through town and is the busiest. When I moved to Orlando in 1993 it was just being complete and was 2 lanes each way, now it's 4 lanes each way in most places and still comes to gridlock. SR429 is a newer road which runs north/south on the far west end and is usually flowing ok - it's getting to it that's the problem. SR417 runs north/south on the far east end and typically runs smoothly but again, it's getting two it. The FL Turnpike runs through Orlando with exactly four exits so for the majority of people it's completely useless.

If you asked me a few years ago where I thought the most terrible traffic was I would say Atlanta. Dear god I have wasted a lot of time in Atlanta traffic.

My Mom lives in Melbourne so everytime I go visit her I fly in and out of Orlando. I remember being stuck in traffic once on an early evening in the winter...can't remember what day of the week it was but the traffic sucked.

I lived in Los Angeles for 7 years and now live in San Diego. Traffic here sucks ass too and you definitely need a car in L.A. San Diego has some public transportation (Coaster/Sprinter). I used to take the Coaster every Friday and ride my bike to work. It took me the same amount of time to do that as it did to drive because traffic is horrible on Friday afternoon.
 

aigomorla

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You know nothing about real traffic. LA traffic is infinitely worse with infinitely more people. LA Metro has 12.9 million people.

+1

not to mention lack of coordination from traffic lights, so you stop at every light.

And your 12.9 million people does not include the illegals who also drive in that area.
And its a considerable amount too.

When it comes to Orlando, if you don't have a car in this town you're screwed, plain and simple. If I were to take the bus to work each day the ride would be 4 hours. You heard that right, 4 hours. It just took me 50 minutes to go 7.4 miles by car.

LOL and LA isnt?
When my friends come over, they always comment, why is EVERY PLACE VALET?

50 minutes for 7.4 miles by car... Thats considered light traffic on the 405 in LA.

Public transportation system? Los Angeles by far has THE WORST public transportation system.
 
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aigomorla

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Haha...the 405, aka 4 o' 5 hours to get anywhere.

110 N near pasadena is infinitely more worse...

You need to go 0-60 in 3 seconds to merge on the freeway, and go from 75 -> 10 in 2 seconds to get off..

()
 

HannibalX

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LOL and LA isnt?
When my friends come over, they always comment, why is EVERY PLACE VALET?

50 minutes for 7.4 miles by car... Thats considered light traffic on the 405 in LA.

Public transportation system? Los Angeles by far has THE WORST public transportation system.

Don't be silly, you don't need me to confirm for you that LA has bad traffic.

At least you guys have trains. :awe:
 

SphinxnihpS

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Don't kid yourselves; Atlanta is the worst city to drive in BY FAR! LA is dreamland in comparison.
 

HannibalX

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Atlanta is really, really bad. I used to think taking the bypass helped but as the city has expanded beyond the bypass it's now just another road through town, albeit a big, circular road.
 

grrl

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but it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest
'twas the low spark of high heeled boys

Either the band or the movie:

Caroline Wakefield: Is this like freebasing?
Seth Abrahams: Not like. It is.
 
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