Transferring OS to new 850PRO questions

RobertR1

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I currently have M4 SSD as my OS drive and some old HDD for data.

I have a 1TB 850PRO coming in tomorrow and would like to move everything do it instead of reinstalling the OS.

Should I just use the Samsung Magician utlility or are there better options?

Also additional 8GB of RAM should be here to use Rapid 2.0
 
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Yeah, Clonezilla or something would do the trick too.

Since you're going from a smaller SSD to a bigger SSD, it's pretty much ideal. You don't have to worry about partition alignment or anything, just clone the M4 to the 850 and then use Windows Disk Management to expand the partition to fit.
 

RobertR1

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Thanks guys. Glad I don't have to install the OS. Will stick with the Samsung Utilities.
 

midwestfisherman

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I would not recommend transferring the OS install to a new drive. It generally never goes as planned. A fresh OS install is the way to go!
 

Topweasel

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SSD install with the only change being the drive shouldn't be an issue. Though I will say if you have even the slightest annoyance about your current install, I would use this as a chance to start fresh.
 

RobertR1

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Current install is completely trouble free so really don't want to redo the work. Going to do it tonight so we'll see!
 

jkauff

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SSD install with the only change being the drive shouldn't be an issue. Though I will say if you have even the slightest annoyance about your current install, I would use this as a chance to start fresh.
I know lots of people recommend a fresh install, but I'm not one of them. Try cloning first--you can always delete the partition on the new drive if you're not satisfied.

If you have lots of installed programs, as I do, a fresh install can be very time-consuming. You'll also need your serial numbers, order numbers, or activation codes for software you've paid for and are re-installing.

You need to weigh how much your time is worth. On mechanical HDDs, a fresh install would often give you better performance. You're not likely to notice a speed increase on an SSD, they're so fast already. If you're not having problems with your current install, go clone.
 

corkyg

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Agree with jkauff. It costs nothing to clone to a new SSD. Have done it many time with zero problems. A clean install is a lot of work when you have 50 or more programs all set up and working and many customizations. A clean install for me takes about 4 days of work to get it working as I like it.

The key to a good cloning operation is to use bootable cloning media so that the OS is not involved at all.

And, if you are cloning to a larger or smaller drive, use the Proportional mode. The whole operation takes about 10 minutes max. Clean install at best is over an hour.
 
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Topweasel

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I know lots of people recommend a fresh install, but I'm not one of them. Try cloning first--you can always delete the partition on the new drive if you're not satisfied.

If you have lots of installed programs, as I do, a fresh install can be very time-consuming. You'll also need your serial numbers, order numbers, or activation codes for software you've paid for and are re-installing.

You need to weigh how much your time is worth. On mechanical HDDs, a fresh install would often give you better performance. You're not likely to notice a speed increase on an SSD, they're so fast already. If you're not having problems with your current install, go clone.
Oh I agree. Mine was more for the "I don't see issues". But there is a mental portion that once you get it up and running a lot of people won't do the wipe. So now would be a perfect chance because you can have either OS install available at demand. That might not be the case later after he puts the old SSD to use somewhere else.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I would not recommend transferring the OS install to a new drive. It generally never goes as planned. A fresh OS install is the way to go!

That's a good "general rule" to follow, but I've done this about four times with my current sig-rig: three times for HDDs (to upgrade size) and once for my SSD. I also cloned my WD blue lappie HDD to an SSD -- without a hitch. In this latter case, I made the clone through a USB connection.

But -- figure the time lost on an unsuccessful cloning operation is a lot less than the time lost on a complete OS reinstall. Anyone could afford to try the first option before moving on to the second, and maybe save a lot of time.

Here are some thoughts, though , about cloning. With the freeware or proprietary clone software, you may not be able to re-size the source partition if it has to fit a smaller SSD. With the Acronis products (Disk Director, True Image) you can do that.

Going back to the "clone versus reinstall" options, I'd suggest some preparations before making a clone. (1) analyze the Event Logs and eliminate sources of all errors and warnings that are not benign or simply "Windows routine." (2) Run the SFC SCANNOW utility in a command window, to assure there aren't any significant problems to the previous installation. And (3) run a thorough CHKDSK with repair enabled for the original or source disk. You should be able to review the results within the Event Logs. (4) -- if cloning from an HDD to an SSD -- defrag the HDD as part of the cleanup effort. It won't have an effect on SSD performance after the clone; I just think it's a good idea and it doesn't take a lot of time, really.

After that -- clone that sucker! Also, another thought: a complete reinstall may likely increase the number of red and yellow bang events in the logs. Sometimes, you have to make some tweaks anyway. If you clean up your existing windows installation, you spend more time up-front, but you can save time on driver and software installs afterward through the cloning option.
 
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aviator79

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Just try cloning, in my case it worked 10 out of 10 times with the Samsung Migration software. No need to worry.
Just as jkauff said: you can always delete the partition on the new drive if you're not satisfied.
 

RobertR1

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Used the samsung clone utility and it worked great! All things are working as they should but just a tad bit faster

Turned on Rapid 2.0 to see how it does over the next few days of usage.
 
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