Could also be out of fear of a transboy (assuming that's a thing - I can never keep these terms straight) being injured by a male.
Could also be out of fear of a transboy (assuming that's a thing - I can never keep these terms straight) being injured by a male.Don't see what bathroom usage has to do with sports competition.
I would say it was more fear of being unmanned by a girl out wrestling the "boys".
Agreed, and I think that's probably the best solution overall IFF his levels of testosterone are low to average for boys. I'm not sure if that's the case or if his therapy might actually grant him an advantage.Competing with men is what he wants to do though. It ain't the lefties here. The state of Texas won't let him.
Did anyone read the OP??
lol Point."Simply in one's mind", as in "the organ that's responsible for our entire perception of reality"?
"Simply in one's mind", as in "the organ that's responsible for our entire perception of reality"?
Which is an externally independent fact that can be verified, and was drawn from observation on how the universe appears to work. I don't know that scientifically we are at the point where we can say what the cause of non-conforming gender identities is, but there is progress being made.Just because someone's mind believes 2+2=5 doesn't mean it's true.
Which is an externally independent fact that can be verified, and was drawn from observation on how the universe appears to work. I don't know that scientifically we are at the point where we can say what the cause of non-conforming gender identities is, but there is progress being made.
Biological sex, and the physical attribute it confers upon you, is no less independently verifiable.
Just because someone's mind believes 2+2=5 doesn't mean it's true.
So what? We're talking about the brain, and non-conforming gender identities. They're called "non-conforming" for a reason, and rather than going "oh, it's imaginary", science is attempting to understand it. Much like we did when discovering that 2+2=4 (to continue using your asinine analogy).Biological sex, and the physical attribute it confers upon you, is no less independently verifiable.
But there's a lot of room within that position. On the one hand, we have people here who say "Hey, I'm biologically male, but internally I feel more like a female, and I want to modify my behavior and my body to reflect that in pursuit of my own happiness." As long as the person recognizes that some accommodation of that will require things from other people and agrees to be reasonable as long as others are reasonable, I'm very supportive of that, as it's just exercising a basic human right and we're all adults. But on the other hand, now we're increasingly seeing people who say "Hey, I'm biologically male, but internally I feel more like a female, and I want to modify my behavior and my body to reflect that in pursuit of my own happiness - AND I expect everyone else to pretend that I am female, to the point of allowing me to shower with your pubescent daughters and compete with them using my biologically stronger muscles and/or performance-enhancing substances that would get them barred."So what? We're talking about the brain, and non-conforming gender identities. They're called "non-conforming" for a reason, and rather than going "oh, it's imaginary", science is attempting to understand it. Much like we did when discovering that 2+2=4 (to continue using your asinine analogy).
It's hard for me to form much of an opinion on the specific topic at hand because it would be hard for me to give less of a shit about sports, let alone high school sportsBut there's a lot of room within that position. On the one hand, we have people here who say "Hey, I'm biologically male, but internally I feel more like a female, and I want to modify my behavior and my body to reflect that in pursuit of my own happiness." As long as the person recognizes that some accommodation of that will require things from other people and agrees to be reasonable as long as others are reasonable, I'm very supportive of that, as it's just exercising a basic human right and we're all adults. But on the other hand, now we're increasingly seeing people who say "Hey, I'm biologically male, but internally I feel more like a female, and I want to modify my behavior and my body to reflect that in pursuit of my own happiness - AND I expect everyone else to pretend that I am female, to the point of allowing me to shower with your pubescent daughters and compete with them using my biologically stronger muscles and/or performance-enhancing substances that would get them barred."
These are people who have been dealt a rough hand in life, and I think we owe them reasonable accommodation. But other people matter too. Normal people deserve to compete on an even playing field, and if something is illegal for one, it should be illegal for all. Allowing biological boys and men to compete against girls and women is like allowing a paraplegic to use his 15hp Honda-powered wheelchair to compete in track events.
Now the claim you're making implicitly is that biological sex is more important than the self of a person as determined by their brain when determining how someone fits into societal ideas of gender. Which is pretty strongly limiting personal freedoms.
Somebody can believe that a triangle can have three right angles and be right (Non-euclidean geometry is fun). Why should we give preference to your version of the parallel postulate over theirs?
What prevents an astute male who is not going to get an academic scholarship, is a good - but not superior - athlete from making the decision that senior year, he's going to "realize he's transgender", compete in the Girls division, and by virtue of smashing the state and National records gets a full ride to a D1 school?
This is exactly as stupid and meaningless as the "now people are going to marry goats" argument regarding same sex marriage.A person's self-perception needs to have some correspondence to reality. I might personally believe, in all sincerity, that I'm a dolphin, or a snail.
The fact that you don't just say "Hi principal, I'm transgender and I'm gonna play girl's sports now". Not sure it would seem worth committing to changing your name and wardrobe and starting hormones just so you can get a scholarship.What prevents an astute male who is not going to get an academic scholarship, is a good - but not superior - athlete from making the decision that senior year, he's going to "realize he's transgender", compete in the Girls division, and by virtue of smashing the state and National records gets a full ride to a D1 school? Sh1t, he could be a Bi-Transgender, still date chicks.
Just because someone's mind believes 2+2=5 doesn't mean it's true.
What is worse is in the army, women are allowed much relaxed physical standards compared to men. And the Army will now fund transgender operations which is batshit insane.
Yes. She has a choice of taking drugs to make her ineligible to compete or not.
Choices are sometimes hard.
Don't need as much muscle if you're not going to rape civilians.
It goes beyond fear. A friend's son lost at the state level for declining to wrestle a girl. It probably cost him a scholarship. Around half her "wins" were the same, and nobody really went at her. At least in the south, slamming a girl to the mat goes against everything we are taught. A man just doesn't do that shit, period. Plus, it's a lose-lose situation. Lose and you lost to a girl, win and you've been mean to a girl.Because the boys that she wants to compete against, and it's not like this is unheard of in wrestling as a lot of states have mixed sex wrestling, are scared to wrestle her? I seriously think not. Why shouldn't she be allowed to wrestle the boys? That is the real issue here, he was forced to play in a certain group by legislative rule. Blaming a 17 year old for following said rules is just dumb.
What about the showers? That kid who wanted to shower with the "other girls" did not even look feminine; no breasts, no waist, no long or aggressively styled hair, no feminine clothing. Just a boy in jeans and tee with moderately waved hair and a small amount of make-up. If that had gotten us into the girls' showers, that would have been half the boys in my graduating class.However 2+2=10 is a true statement in certain circumstances just as gender dysphoria is.
For physical sports, on a sport by sport basis, I happen to agree that trans men and trans women should probably not compete against women. Outside of this one exception there is no legitimate reason for the law to treat them any differently than the gender they feel they are.
What about the showers? That kid who wanted to shower with the "other girls" did not even look feminine; no breasts, no waist, no long or aggressively styled hair, no feminine clothing. Just a boy in jeans and tee with moderately waved hair and a small amount of make-up. If that had gotten us into the girls' showers, that would have been half the boys in my graduating class.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mack-beggs-transgender-boy-wins-texas-state-wrestling-title/
Seems to me that if people are going to get all up in arms over testosterone giving him an advantage then they should just let him compete with the boys like he wants.