Transgender boy wins Texas state girls wrestling title

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xthetenth

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That should be the end of it. Let him compete with the boys. My guess as to why this subject is so complicated is that what if you had a male transitioning to a female. Even if they took hormones the person will still have an upper body strength advantage so I suppose it you do it one way you have to go the other.

Yeah, trans men/boys should definitely compete in the male bracket, and it's not a huge deal if not getting male hormones all their life sets them back, not everyone gets to be the top in their class and it's a fair way to compete. Trans women might be more contentious, and for sporting competitions in particular it's fine for it to be negotiable in the interests of fairness for all participants. If that means the men's division turning into an "unlimited" one, that might be what it takes, who knows. It'd probably be good in general for "men's" sports to just be whoever can compete at the top level.

Problem here is that Texas is trying to delegitimize the whole thing and say that he's still female, which just flat out isn't the case.

Or maybe mentally ill people shouldn't be allowed to participate in sports? Just a thought.

Piss off. Plenty of people compete just fine despite not being neurotypical. Hell, I've got depression and it was no big deal. If there's no overriding reason why they aren't flat out incompatible with the sports being played or the divisions available there's no reason whatsoever to let your ill-founded whim dictate their lives.
 

werepossum

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Or maybe mentally ill people shouldn't be allowed to participate in sports? Just a thought.
I don't think it is necessarily a given that he/she is mentally ill. Males and females are essentially the same until late in development. Sometimes things go wrong in utero or after which radically change our physiology. Absent some other evidence of mental illness, why should a desire to reshape one's body into the opposite sex be fundamentally different from a desire to reshape one's body into a muscle-bound body builder or zero-fat runner or multiple pierced, heavily tatted Goth or biker? Lots of people aren't happy with who they are and take action to make themselves into something different; I see no reason to treat trannies differently.

If the square pegs aren't hurting anyone, why do we need to pound them into round holes? I have little patience with those who want the power to decide their sex on a day to day basis or need 47 gender choices, but as long as trannies are willing to commit and aren't messing with kids, I say more power to them. More happy people equals a more happy society, and while my neighbor's sex is very important to his or her happiness, it can only affect my happiness if I choose to let it do so.
 

Darwin333

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So you are saying he wasn't using the women's locker room because he's was trans but to be a voyeur. Sounds prosecutable

I'm fine with schools requiring to be informed by the student and a parent or doctor before allowing a minor student to switch bathrooms.

Your assertion aside some simple checks will discourage straight kids who want to ogle the opposite sex.

The sad truth is that most trans kids would not be comfortable showering with the sex they associate with because even if they aren't ogling they will almost surely be getting ogled. The boys are going to be checking out the tits and vagina and the girls are going to be checking out the penis and what happens if he gets an erection while looking at the naked girls or hell what if he just happens to get one while in the locker room? As you can probably remember, during those years it kind of has a mind of its own and can just pop up for no reason.
 
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