Transgender teen joins girls track team

UglyCasanova

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http://www.courant.com/sports/high-...ack-andraya-yearwood-0407-20170406-story.html


No doubt we'll be seeing more and more stories like this, just doesn't seem fair to anyone else. Bizarro world

"I know they'll say it is unfair and not right, but my counter to that is: Why not?" her mother said. "She is competing and practicing and giving her all and performing and excelling based on her skills. Let that be enough. Let her do that, and be proud of that."



 
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brycejones

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To complete the sentence fragment in the thread title:

and the world continued to turn and the end times were not upon us.
 

woolfe9998

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I'm in favor of equality for TG, but I can understand the problem here. I think a solution is to allow her to compete but with a handicap. If males at that level of competition average, say, 1.8 seconds faster time in the hundred yard dash compared to females, just add that as a handicap to her time.
 

Zstream

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I'm in favor of equality for TG, but I can understand the problem here. I think a solution is to allow her to compete but with a handicap. If males at that level of competition average, say, 1.8 seconds faster time in the hundred yard dash compared to females, just add that as a handicap to her time.

Would you please just rethink your entire thought process, please? Making stupid handicaps for this crap is nauseating at best and listening to people like you make me want to throw up.

You want equal protection, sure. You want equal rights based off of what standard? Hell no.
 

Double Trouble

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This is the kind of bizarre can of worms that gets opened up when you accept that everyone is whatever they "identify as". It's obviously unfair to women, there's no way they can compete with a male in terms of physical performance. I don't care if he identifies as a woman or not, biologically he's male, which means he should not be competing against women in sports where physical attributes matter.
 

UglyCasanova

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This is the kind of bizarre can of worms that gets opened up when you accept that everyone is whatever they "identify as". It's obviously unfair to women, there's no way they can compete with a male in terms of physical performance. I don't care if he identifies as a woman or not, biologically he's male, which means he should not be competing against women in sports where physical attributes matter.

I agree
 

Paladin3

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It is impossible for a trans athlete to become a woman and leave all the physical advantages, increased strength and speed of being born a man behind. That makes it unfair to let them compete in sports as a woman. Is that "fair" to the trans athlete? Maybe not, but you can't make all born female athletes suffer just to allow the trans athlete to compete.

And before anyone compares the two, this isn't like allowing transgenders to use the bathroom of their preference, which I support.
 
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Well this already happened in the Olympics and was ridiculous there as well. Local sports is one thing but allowing the advantages of the male physique in female professional sports is anti-competitive. The problem is equal rights groups have been allowed to become so vocal and the internet and social media has allowed these unthinking followers to cause such harm for institutions and companies that they just don't dare use logic.
 

Ackmed

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Stuff like this is funny to me. Seems a lot of people are all for letting people feel whatever way they want. Until feels meets real world results.

Guy used to compete as a man. Decided he is a girl, wins easily in woman's class. Besting the closest female by 41lb in a power lifting competition.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/23/health/transgender-weightlifter-controversy-trnd/index.html

If they continue down this path, no woman will ever place in anything that depends on strength or speed. Men will win all women's track events, lifting events, etc. Men are just the fastest and strongest. There is no denying that. There are plenty of things women are better than men at, those are not them.
 

Sonikku

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Natural born women on that team would probably still kick my butt in sports.
 

Zorba

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Again, either direction trans should be competing with males. At high levels, people will do anything to win, including becoming trans to win women's events.
 

Blue_Max

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It is impossible for a trans athlete to become a woman and leave all the physical advantages, increased strength and speed of being born a man behind. That makes it unfair to let them compete in sports as a woman. Is that "fair" to the trans athlete? Maybe not, but you can't make all born female athletes suffer just to allow the trans athlete to compete.

And before anyone compares the two, this isn't like allowing transgenders to use the bathroom of their preference, which I support.

...but this is the progressive agenda, both bathrooms AND sports; make the 99% suffer to protect the delicate feelings of the 1% (even if that 1% is making a terrible decision and just doesn't want to suffer any consequences for it.)
 
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http://www.courant.com/sports/high-...ack-andraya-yearwood-0407-20170406-story.html


No doubt we'll be seeing more and more stories like this, just doesn't seem fair to anyone else. Bizarro world

"I know they'll say it is unfair and not right, but my counter to that is: Why not?" her mother said. "She is competing and practicing and giving her all and performing and excelling based on her skills. Let that be enough. Let her do that, and be proud of that."



I am afraid I must go with the Olympic Rules in sex segregated physical competitions, go by birth gender.
 

Sheep221

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Again, either direction trans should be competing with males. At high levels, people will do anything to win, including becoming trans to win women's events.
I really don't know much about psychology behind transgenders, but I highly doubt some guy did turn himself to woman just to unfairly compete in some sport.
 

agent00f

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Sounds like an end to women's sports.
Piece by piece, one man at a time.
...but this is the progressive agenda, both bathrooms AND sports; make the 99% suffer to protect the delicate feelings of the 1% (even if that 1% is making a terrible decision and just doesn't want to suffer any consequences for it.)
What the heck are you blabbing about? Go back to your manlet cave.

Worth noting these are more or less the same people posting the same alarmist threads about them gays (ie end of marriage, etc, etc) not long ago on the same wrong side of history. God must really hate them to dole out this punishment of never being right.
 

mikeymikec

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I really don't know much about psychology behind transgenders, but I highly doubt some guy did turn himself to woman just to unfairly compete in some sport.

No doubt it's all part of a life-long scheme: First there's all the wins from competing in sports events for women, then to reel in lots of poor unwitting men with false-rape allegations, then some hefty divorce settlements as well as pay-related workplace discrimination lawsuits. Ah, the oppression-free life of luxury these frauds lead. /s
 
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It is easily solvable : The transgender should only be able to compete in women competition after complete surgical change (no male parts and testes) and be on female hormones for enough time (for example 3 years) to completely flush out any male strength advantage. Of course, there might still be some muscles size advantage, but that will decrease over time.
 

child of wonder

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How long until colleges actively recruit transgender women to play in their women's sports programs?

Making 99.9% of female athletes suffer to pander to the 0.1% is ridiculous.
 

bshole

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How long until colleges actively recruit transgender women to play in their women's sports programs?

Making 99.9% of female athletes suffer to pander to the 0.1% is ridiculous.

Female athletics are not money generators at the college level like male athletics. In fact the overwhelmingly majority are money losers. On the men's side, the profiteering on elite male athletes is almost criminal. How is that a university can make millions on athletes while compensating the majority of them with degrees that are nearly worthless?

If you are going to worry about something, worry about how the NCAA is monetizing the labor of their athletes without just compensation.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/7/9/5885433/ncaa-trial-student-athletes-education
 
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