Trayvon Martin all over again.

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HumblePie

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Eagerly awaiting HumblePie to explain to us how this wasn't racist and was said in the heat of the moment.

Fuck you. Me not jumping to fucking conclusions and waiting until evidence and testimony is brought out isnt' what you like to hear. I get it. But fuck you for thinking I have made a stance on this case yet at all. I even said I was leaning on the side that racism was involved in their motivations here. I said that pages ago you fuckwit.
 

ecogen

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Fuck you. Me not jumping to fucking conclusions and waiting until evidence and testimony is brought out isnt' what you like to hear. I get it. But fuck you for thinking I have made a stance on this case yet at all. I even said I was leaning on the side that racism was involved in their motivations here. I said that pages ago you fuckwit.

r u ok?
 

ecogen

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Fine, just not putting up with shit from idiots like you who think their funny calling other people racist because they feel like it.

I don't think you're in a position to call anyone an idiot. Did you learn how regressions work yet?
 

brycejones

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Fuck you. Me not jumping to fucking conclusions and waiting until evidence and testimony is brought out isnt' what you like to hear. I get it. But fuck you for thinking I have made a stance on this case yet at all. I even said I was leaning on the side that racism was involved in their motivations here. I said that pages ago you fuckwit.

Hmmm....maybe your posts in this thread have led people to the conclusion that you're not being honest.
 

interchange

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Firstly, I'd like to apologize to @HumblePie because I mistakenly thought it was Perez who called McMichael after identifying Arbery leaving the construction site. In fact, it seems it was one McMichael calling the other and not knowing he had just been at the site and testimony by the GBI that they didn't have a firm ID before pursuit.

Beyond that, if the prosection can actually prove what the GBI testified to, this is malice murder and needs serious consideration as a hate crime.
 

HumblePie

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Hmmm....maybe your posts in this thread have led people to the conclusion that you're not being honest.
Maybe the majority of people in these forums have only one political and idealogical view and anything against that view is seen as moral outrage? I am not of the opposite political view as someone in the middle, but certainly the moment my posts don't jive with what some people want around here they rather hurl insults first instead.
 

HumblePie

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Firstly, I'd like to apologize to @HumblePie because I mistakenly thought it was Perez who called McMichael after identifying Arbery leaving the construction site. In fact, it seems it was one McMichael calling the other and not knowing he had just been at the site and testimony by the GBI that they didn't have a firm ID before pursuit.

Beyond that, if the prosection can actually prove what the GBI testified to, this is malice murder and needs serious consideration as a hate crime.

If what the GBI is claiming here, it certainly seems to be way more than what we've have known as the public. It definitely would be much easier to show felony murder if they can prove the claims Bryan hit Arbery with his truck first and that Travis called him the N word over his body. That, as you said, shows malice. If they do prove that hope they rot in jail.
 
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interchange

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If what the GBI is claiming here, it certainly seems to be way more than what we've have known as the public. It definitely would be much easier to show felony murder if they can prove the claims Bryan hit Arbery with his truck first and that Travis called him the N word over his body. That, as you said, shows malice. If they do prove that hope they rot in jail.

I hope that they are afforded due process and sentenced in accordance to any crimes they can be proved to have committed beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law as judged by a jury of their peers. I hope that throughout this process and their likely long term in prison they are treated humanely.
 

HomerJS

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Fuck you. Me not jumping to fucking conclusions and waiting until evidence and testimony is brought out isnt' what you like to hear. I get it. But fuck you for thinking I have made a stance on this case yet at all. I even said I was leaning on the side that racism was involved in their motivations here. I said that pages ago you fuckwit.

At the same time excusing the actions of the killers. Trying to have it both ways when it comes to dangerous racists.

You and all people like you are a fucking disgrace. You were the one who claimed Arbury was running away from a crime. There was no evidence of that but you were willing to make shit up just to get your darkie on a stick. He was fucking jogging you racist. Hope the hood fits


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esquared

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Maybe they prosecutors can add a hate crime to this.
Seems from testimony from William Bryant as to what Travis McMichael said after Ahmoud Aubery
was shot and laying on the ground
Investigator testifies a suspect in the Aubery killing used a racial slur after the shooting

It's bleeped out of the text and the video, but watch the 1 minute video and you can read
the lips of special agent Richard Dial. I am not going to write it but its clear what was said.
 

BUTCH1

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Maybe they prosecutors can add a hate crime to this.
Seems from testimony from William Bryant as to what Travis McMichael said after Ahmoud Aubery
was shot and laying on the ground
Investigator testifies a suspect in the Aubery killing used a racial slur after the shooting

It's bleeped out of the text and the video, but watch the 1 minute video and you can read
the lips of special agent Richard Dial. I am not going to write it but its clear what was said.
Yea, it's pretty clear, there goes the "we were not racially motivated here, we just don't like trespassers!" defense.
 

BUTCH1

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Firstly, I'd like to apologize to @HumblePie because I mistakenly thought it was Perez who called McMichael after identifying Arbery leaving the construction site. In fact, it seems it was one McMichael calling the other and not knowing he had just been at the site and testimony by the GBI that they didn't have a firm ID before pursuit.

Beyond that, if the prosection can actually prove what the GBI testified to, this is malice murder and needs serious consideration as a hate crime.
GA has no hate crime on the books currently.
 

BUTCH1

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Maybe the majority of people in these forums have only one political and idealogical view and anything against that view is seen as moral outrage? I am not of the opposite political view as someone in the middle, but certainly the moment my posts don't jive with what some people want around here they rather hurl insults first instead.
Political or ideological viewpoint should not have ever been much of a factor in forming an opinion on this case, there's just no "wiggle" room here. In the Martin case no one actually saw the events and Z did have some evidence of being in a fight, here, none of the evidence can be "fudged" much or at all.
 

fskimospy

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Officer bodycam footage released. Does not paint the police arriving on scene in a great light. They basically coddle Travis McMichael, as if he's the victim because of how bad he felt about having "no choice" but to shoot someone.

When people talk about how systemic racism doesn't exist does anyone here actually think if the situation were reversed that the cops would have treated Arbery in the same way?

Like... does a single person think that?
 

woolfe9998

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When people talk about how systemic racism doesn't exist does anyone here actually think if the situation were reversed that the cops would have treated Arbery in the same way?

Like... does a single person think that?

Well the police here certainly are showing a double standard. On the video, they appear to show complete credulity at basically everything the McMichaels are saying. And the coddling is pretty weird. It's like gee, I'm so sorry you had to experience the trauma of having to shoot someone.
 
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HomerJS

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Well the police hear certainly are showing a double standard. On the video, they appear to show complete credulity at basically everything the McMichaels are saying. And the coddling is pretty weird. It's like gee, I'm so sorry you had to experience the trauma of having to shoot someone.
Remember how the racist deniers in this forum commented?

"Well, Arbury MUST have done something" Black = assumption of guilt
 

woolfe9998

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Also, the guy who made the video, who has now also been charged, says on the bodycam vid

“Should we have been chasing him?” Bryan said at one point. “I don’t know.”

So one of the participants was conscious of the fact that the reasons for the chase were shaky at best.
 

HomerJS

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Systemic racism...
Ahmaud Arbery was still alive when police arrived in the minutes after he was fatally shot, but officers did not immediately tend to him and showed little skepticism of the suspects’ accounts on the scene, newly released body camera videos show.
 

BUTCH1

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