Trayvon Martin all over again.

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brycejones

Lifer
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I assume you are correct even though I have never even suggested that

"If a black person is accused they must have done something and the white man is always justified. "

Is true.

But we know how HomerJS loves his little innuendo's...
I'm curious what methodology do you use to climb up on your cross? Ladder? Does it have pegs? A crane? Shimmy?
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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I assume you are correct even though I have never even suggested that

"If a black person is accused they must have done something and the white man is always justified. "

Is true.

But we know how HomerJS loves his little innuendo's...
What did that group say about Jordan Davis
What did that group say about Ahmed Arbury
What did that group say about Treyvon Martin
What did that group say about Elijah McClain
What did that group say about Sandra Bland
What did that group say about Philando Castile
What did that group say about Breonna Taylor (and she was sleeping when she was shot)
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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What did that group say about Jordan Davis
What did that group say about Ahmed Arbury
What did that group say about Treyvon Martin
What did that group say about Elijah McClain
What did that group say about Sandra Bland
What did that group say about Philando Castile
What did that group say about Breonna Taylor (and she was sleeping when she was shot)


What group?

You keep talking about this group that shall not be named.
Nobody has named any group.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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What group?

You keep talking about this group that shall not be named.
Nobody has named any group.
The group in this forum who's M.O. is the black person must be guilty of something. Go look through those threads and you'll find the usual actors. It takes a lot of projection and chutzpah to put ANY blame on a black woman asleep in bed for being shot dead by the cops.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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The group in this forum who's M.O. is the black person must be guilty of something. Go look through those threads and you'll find the usual actors. It takes a lot of projection and chutzpah to put ANY blame on a black woman asleep in bed for being shot dead by the cops.
Since they have not formed a formal group, he will continue to say "what group?"


OK fine. You have no sack. You just want to cast general implied insults around.
 
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rmacd02

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Ah, thanks for quoting HomerJS' quote.

So you will quote the group, of which you are an obvious part.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Ah, thanks for quoting HomerJS' quote.

So you will quote the group, of which you are an obvious part.


How so?

Show where I have supported his accusations made of this group of unnamed posters of which there are about a dozen.

A lot of Americans are consistent on one thing. If a black person is accused they must have done something and the white man is always justified.

We have about a dozen in this forum

What did that group say about Jordan Davis
What did that group say about Ahmed Arbury
What did that group say about Treyvon Martin
What did that group say about Elijah McClain
What did that group say about Sandra Bland
What did that group say about Philando Castile
What did that group say about Breonna Taylor (and she was sleeping when she was shot)

 

HomerJS

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How so?

Show where I have supported his accusations made of this group of unnamed posters of which there are about a dozen.
I gave you places to start. I'm not going to spoon feed information that been hashed multiple times in P&N. Information that most of us know but others need reminding

Maybe try Breonna Taylor first. Blaming a sleeping black women for her own death.
Maybe try Jordan Davis. Car with 4 back youth vs angry white man. Clearly the thugs were guilty of something.

I'm putting the spoon down
 

pmv

Lifer
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I have too much time on my hands, so used the search function. Just for Breonna Taylor there were these posts that might qualify







Sarah Bland turned up



then I ran out of energy/interest, sorry.

it's a pretty universal kind of phenomenon, though. For any out-group if something bad happens to one of them, many people will employ their full forensic skills in trying, desperately, to find something that person did 'wrong' and so bought it on themselves.

I might be trivilaising it, but as it's the only way it applies to a group I'm part of, I've always noticed it with cyclists killed in RTCs. Invariably there will commence a frantic search to find some way in which the cyclist was less than 100% perfect in their 'roadcraft', thus allowing any blame to be shifted from the motorist who drove into them, or the road-traffic engineers who created a dangerous road layout. It never works the same way when it's a motorist who is killed or injured, then it's always someone else's fault.

It also, of course, happens when women are raped or murdered - as with the Sarah Everard case recently, when after she was 'arrested' and then raped and murdered by a serving cop, a senior legal official started going on about how women need to be more aware of their legal rights when being arrested - implying that Ms Everard was at fault for not knowing the cop wasn't legally allowed to "arrest" her, rather than it illustrating a massive problem with police culture and their vetting of recruits - demontrating the kind of psychopaths who are allowed to join the police (and in this case, allowed to become firearms officers and being among the very small number allowed to carry a gun)
 

pmv

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Often the search for reasons to blame the victim will involve members of the very group that was victimised. In my experience, when a woman is harrassed or murdered it's often other women who will claim that the victim shouldn't have been 'dressed like that' or in that location at that time. And it's invariably self-styled 'elite' cyclists who will blame a dead fellow-cyclist for being somehow less than perfect. I'm pretty sure you get conservative black people saying equivalent things when black people are killed by police.

Seems to me the reason for that is that nobody likes to feel that their fate isn't entirely in their own hands. Nobody wants to feel at risk of being a victim of others with more power. So if you can find something your fellow out-group-member did 'wrong', you can convince yourself you would never do that 'wrong' thing, and hence nothing bad can happen to you. Such victim-blaming is a way of fending off anxiety, think.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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I gave you places to start. I'm not going to spoon feed information that been hashed multiple times in P&N. Information that most of us know but others need reminding

Maybe try Breonna Taylor first. Blaming a sleeping black women for her own death.
Maybe try Jordan Davis. Car with 4 back youth vs angry white man. Clearly the thugs were guilty of something.

I'm putting the spoon down


I haven't blamed either of those (Breonna Taylor or Jordan Davis) of being guilty of whatever.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Ball is in your court, geek.


Ball is in my court for what?

For PMVs post? I wasn't involved in any of those. I didn't say it doesn't happen only that I have never supported blaming someone for the color of their skin. I do have some strong opinions about the Travon case... but it isn't for the color of his skin.

You wanted to put me in that "unnamed group".

So you will quote the group, of which you are an obvious part.

Back it up or shut up.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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I like how the poster who had secret reasons demands others back it up. Lol, youre always good for a laugh, goat sexer.
 
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HomerJS

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Ball is in my court for what?

For PMVs post? I wasn't involved in any of those. I didn't say it doesn't happen only that I have never supported blaming someone for the color of their skin. I do have some strong opinions about the Travon case... but it isn't for the color of his skin.

You wanted to put me in that "unnamed group".



Back it up or shut up.
I told you that group exists. Most of us know it, whether you acknowledge it or not. I told you where to look. @pmv posted some of them. I didn't say you were part of that group but you could at least admit there is a group with that M.O. The evidence is all there. I may take some time this wknd to see if you were in it.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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I told you that group exists. Most of us know it, whether you acknowledge it or not. I told you where to look. @pmv posted some of them. I didn't say you were part of that group but you could at least admit there is a group with that M.O. The evidence is all there. I may take some time this wknd to see if you were in it.


Yes, You do that. As far as that goes there are extremist about any subject. I think you would classify in the opposite extreme direction. Of course that is just my opinion.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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I told you that group exists. Most of us know it, whether you acknowledge it or not. I told you where to look. @pmv posted some of them. I didn't say you were part of that group but you could at least admit there is a group with that M.O. The evidence is all there. I may take some time this wknd to see if you were in it.

Geek is here for the attention. You're giving it to him. His history here as a tribal R is known.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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What bullshit. Lawyers got all but 1 black person stricken from the jury. If these white killers are not found guilty of murder there will be blood on the streets and this time I can't blame anyone. This would be the first time in ATP&N I would condone violence. We still have idiots in this forum that wonder why the feds step in on state issues. The only way for black people to get their full rights is intervention by the Feds. Could they be immediately retried for civil rights violations and sentenced to death if found guilty.
One Black juror, 11 whites to hear trial over Arbery slaying (yahoo.com)
A judge ruled Wednesday that he'll seat one Black juror and 11 whites to decide the trial of the men who chased and killed Ahmaud Arbery, despite prosecutors' objections that several Black potential jurors were cut because of their race.

Superior Court Judge Timothy Walmsley acknowledged that “intentional discrimination" by attorneys for the three white defendants charged in the death of the Black man appeared to have shaped jury selection. But he said Georgia law limited his authority to intervene.
The defense attorney has proven just like the defendants he is a black hating racist. He noticed supporters of Arbury's family were sitting in the audience and he complained with the following statement...
We Don’t Want Any More Black Pastors in Here
Arbery Case Defense Lawyer: 'Don't Want Any More Black Pastors Here' - Rolling Stone

This is the same lawyer who turned the jury into almost all white. To the point the judge said discrimination was involved.
 
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